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SelphieSK wrote...

In DAO, you're acknowledged as a rogue a few times: at the start of the Cousland origin, Howe makes a different comment depending on whether you're a warrior or a rogue ; when you ask your companions to teach you their spec, they have a different comment depending on your class. And I think you can't get the Crime Wave subquest unless you're a rogue.


YEah, you need to unlock the pick pocket thingy. in order to do it. I'm doing that quest right now with my rogue speak of the devil. Well after I get out of the  mage tower. hehe.

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SelphieSK wrote...

In DAO, you're acknowledged as a rogue a few times: at the start of the Cousland origin, Howe makes a different comment depending on whether you're a warrior or a rogue ; when you ask your companions to teach you their spec, they have a different comment depending on your class. And I think you can't get the Crime Wave subquest unless you're a rogue.


I thought there was one special quest tree specific to each class but I could be mistaken.

I also want to state that not all warriors are super strong Tooney, I couldn't stand the slowness of a two handed fighter and the shield thing was something I always left for Alister so I did mine as similar to a rouge as I could with the two handed quickness just to get achivments for the warrior class.

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red cliff chantry mother recognise my human mage without me saying anything

i threat dwarf that i was mage and he was afraid me.

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IronVanguard wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KennethAFTopp wrote...

How will they SEE you're a rogue?


Rogues only wear light armor and such something like that would make sense. If you notice most rogues wear light armor. Unless you where someone who leveled up your strenght the most on your rogue. Why someone would do that is beyond my thinking.  Just so they could see Zevran wear heavy armor. ECK!

You mages are all classist.

Sir, you tried to smuggle in a 15 cm serrated blade.

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Trapper_920 wrote...

SelphieSK wrote...

In DAO, you're acknowledged as a rogue a few times: at the start of the Cousland origin, Howe makes a different comment depending on whether you're a warrior or a rogue ; when you ask your companions to teach you their spec, they have a different comment depending on your class. And I think you can't get the Crime Wave subquest unless you're a rogue.


I thought there was one special quest tree specific to each class but I could be mistaken.

I also want to state that not all warriors are super strong Tooney, I couldn't stand the slowness of a two handed fighter and the shield thing was something I always left for Alister so I did mine as similar to a rouge as I could with the two handed quickness just to get achivments for the warrior class.


YEs, that was true, but it could still have you be recognized as such. It would play a viable part in the game.

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Not all rogues are thieves. My DN rogue is a scout/infiltrator type. She wouldn't be caught dead pickpocketing someone; it's totally beneath her. Exactly how are you proposing that NPCs treat her?

Edit: or rather, a hypothetical Hawke who's similar in personality, though obviously not in background.

Modifié par AlanC9, 12 juillet 2010 - 06:34 .


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Tooneyman wrote...

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I played a rogue in Origins, and I remember only a few times my class was mentioned. One was when I failed to open a locked chest, or disarm a trap, and if I had Lilliana with me she would offer to handle it for me. Of course since we were both at low levels, neither one of us could do it. The other times my class was briefly mentioned was with Oghren, when I asked if I could learn to be a Berserker, and with Alistair when I asked if I could learn to be Templar. It wasn't much of an acknowlegement of my being a rogue, but it was something. I never played a mage, but I suppose the same type of thing would happen if I asked to be an assassin, or whatever wasn't included in my class.


Yeah, I do remember thoughs moments, but I'm refering to NPCs outside of your party.  It would feel more real if the world around you acknowledge what your hawke is!


Sorry I had to stop reading here. 

How is it more real? Is it easier to tell the difference between a warrior and a mage? Probably so. Would it be cool to generate some reactions from NPC's for Warriors and mages? Yeah I think so. I don't think you need people to be shaking because so and so is a warrior in heavy armor, maybe a tad stand offish or short in convo. perhaps avoid them all together or just acknowledge their armor and weapon.

Would any of this work for a Rogue? NO
Why? Because if you can recognize a Rogue right off the bat then he's not really a good rogue and should be dead or in jail by now. One of the biggest benifits to playing a rogue is there ability to blend in and to go unnoticed, to put people at ease and not appear as much of a threat.
If I'm playing a rogue and I'm walking about town and NPC's all start hiding their purses, putting hands in pockets and guarding their coin purses, well then I need to change professions.

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wwwwowwww wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

schalafi wrote...

I played a rogue in Origins, and I remember only a few times my class was mentioned. One was when I failed to open a locked chest, or disarm a trap, and if I had Lilliana with me she would offer to handle it for me. Of course since we were both at low levels, neither one of us could do it. The other times my class was briefly mentioned was with Oghren, when I asked if I could learn to be a Berserker, and with Alistair when I asked if I could learn to be Templar. It wasn't much of an acknowlegement of my being a rogue, but it was something. I never played a mage, but I suppose the same type of thing would happen if I asked to be an assassin, or whatever wasn't included in my class.


Yeah, I do remember thoughs moments, but I'm refering to NPCs outside of your party.  It would feel more real if the world around you acknowledge what your hawke is!


Sorry I had to stop reading here. 

How is it more real? Is it easier to tell the difference between a warrior and a mage? Probably so. Would it be cool to generate some reactions from NPC's for Warriors and mages? Yeah I think so. I don't think you need people to be shaking because so and so is a warrior in heavy armor, maybe a tad stand offish or short in convo. perhaps avoid them all together or just acknowledge their armor and weapon.

Would any of this work for a Rogue? NO
Why? Because if you can recognize a Rogue right off the bat then he's not really a good rogue and should be dead or in jail by now. One of the biggest benifits to playing a rogue is there ability to blend in and to go unnoticed, to put people at ease and not appear as much of a threat.
If I'm playing a rogue and I'm walking about town and NPC's all start hiding their purses, putting hands in pockets and guarding their coin purses, well then I need to change professions.


Where I got this theory I was thinking of the idea. When you get the quest from the guy in Denerium when you have a high pick pocket skill. This is where I got it, but it would be cool to see something like this the most or even better have another rogue NPC recognize your rogue has a stealing skill, because that NPC scene is also has the pickpocket skill and kind of look down at his pats pocket has he walks away. Posted Image

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Tooneyman wrote...

Where I got this theory I was thinking of the idea. When you get the quest from the guy in Denerium when you have a high pick pocket skill. This is where I got it, but it would be cool to see something like this the most or even better have another rogue NPC recognize your rogue has a stealing skill, because that NPC scene is also has the pickpocket skill and kind of look down at his pats pocket has he walks away. Posted Image


I'm not nocking the idea, I do like the concept, just pointing out it's not going to work for every class.

Now having a rogue recognize another rogue would be cool as they could watch and study one before approaching or some such thing.

I would like to see more over all reaction to one carrying weapons and such around a market place or in the INN and so forth.

As for the the NPC in Denerim I believe he asks if you can do this or that and you have to tell him.