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PPS: Garrus still needs to find better music for loveing making and not the club tune from Flux. ROFL.


Garrus is a huge dork when he's not being Batman. It was very in character.


His taste in music is questionable, though.

(Not my video)


Hahaha oh my god. I'm more disturbed by the fighting noises.


What's worse is that the Illusive Man is standing there.. listening.


Oh he *would*

The real reason for all the monitering equipment in the ship.

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Firky wrote...

(Forgive if this has been covered.)

Not that I'm suggesting DA2 should go all Witcher, but I really liked those collectable cards. Firstly, they were like erotic art, not character models whose facial expressions and bare shoulders don't really get the right mood across (IMO). Also, The Witcher didn't bother trying to show you a sex scene. Sometimes suggestive is infinitely better. (Especially in a videogame.)

Also, I heard that Geralt is a lot less promiscuous in The Witcher 2. I liked the promiscuity. It went hand in hand with the sterility/sense of desperation thing, for me anyway.


People have mentioned this, and it's a YMMV thing. Personally, I hate it. Hate it. What girl throws her panties at the guy who pointed out a mud puddle or something? It's completely unrealistic, not to mention the utter objectifying nature of it. That women may be "collected". Literally turned into trophies to be counted. It never once came off as "mature" to me (and I'm still playing the game at the moment). It felt like something from a middle schooler's gross little fantasy.

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Saibh wrote...

Firky wrote...

(Forgive if this has been covered.)

Not that I'm suggesting DA2 should go all Witcher, but I really liked those collectable cards. Firstly, they were like erotic art, not character models whose facial expressions and bare shoulders don't really get the right mood across (IMO). Also, The Witcher didn't bother trying to show you a sex scene. Sometimes suggestive is infinitely better. (Especially in a videogame.)

Also, I heard that Geralt is a lot less promiscuous in The Witcher 2. I liked the promiscuity. It went hand in hand with the sterility/sense of desperation thing, for me anyway.


People have mentioned this, and it's a YMMV thing. Personally, I hate it. Hate it. What girl throws her panties at the guy who pointed out a mud puddle or something? It's completely unrealistic, not to mention the utter objectifying nature of it. That women may be "collected". Literally turned into trophies to be counted. It never once came off as "mature" to me (and I'm still playing the game at the moment). It felt like something from a middle schooler's gross little fantasy.


*points at a mud puddle*

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Saibh wrote...

Firky wrote...

(Forgive if this has been covered.)

Not that I'm suggesting DA2 should go all Witcher, but I really liked those collectable cards. Firstly, they were like erotic art, not character models whose facial expressions and bare shoulders don't really get the right mood across (IMO). Also, The Witcher didn't bother trying to show you a sex scene. Sometimes suggestive is infinitely better. (Especially in a videogame.)

Also, I heard that Geralt is a lot less promiscuous in The Witcher 2. I liked the promiscuity. It went hand in hand with the sterility/sense of desperation thing, for me anyway.


People have mentioned this, and it's a YMMV thing. Personally, I hate it. Hate it. What girl throws her panties at the guy who pointed out a mud puddle or something? It's completely unrealistic, not to mention the utter objectifying nature of it. That women may be "collected". Literally turned into trophies to be counted. It never once came off as "mature" to me (and I'm still playing the game at the moment). It felt like something from a middle schooler's gross little fantasy.

Unfortunatly, even today, a lot of guys still treat the number of women that they sleep with as some sort of trophy.  I remeber a party where a number of my friends were comparing the total number of women they had slept with and being disapointed that someone else was so far ahead of them.  Not something I was exactly proud of them to say.

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Unfortunatly, even today, a lot of guys still treat the number of women that they sleep with as some sort of trophy.  I remeber a party where a number of my friends were comparing the total number of women they had slept with and being disapointed that someone else was so far ahead of them.  Not something I was exactly proud of them to say.


I've slept with <enter number that impresses you> woman and <enter number that impresses you> men while also sleeping with <enter number that impresses you> <thing that interests you>.

OH SNAP.

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Firky wrote...

Also, I heard that Geralt is a lot less promiscuous in The Witcher 2. I liked the promiscuity. It went hand in hand with the sterility/sense of desperation thing, for me anyway.


Less promiscuous?  That's disappointing.  I agree with you; it seemed part of the whole package.  Some of the screenshots I've seen appear to have Triss following him around so I'm worried we'll get saddled with her the whole game.

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Saibh wrote...

Firky wrote...

(Forgive if this has been covered.)

Not that I'm suggesting DA2 should go all Witcher, but I really liked those collectable cards. Firstly, they were like erotic art, not character models whose facial expressions and bare shoulders don't really get the right mood across (IMO). Also, The Witcher didn't bother trying to show you a sex scene. Sometimes suggestive is infinitely better. (Especially in a videogame.)

Also, I heard that Geralt is a lot less promiscuous in The Witcher 2. I liked the promiscuity. It went hand in hand with the sterility/sense of desperation thing, for me anyway.


People have mentioned this, and it's a YMMV thing. Personally, I hate it. Hate it. What girl throws her panties at the guy who pointed out a mud puddle or something? It's completely unrealistic, not to mention the utter objectifying nature of it. That women may be "collected". Literally turned into trophies to be counted. It never once came off as "mature" to me (and I'm still playing the game at the moment). It felt like something from a middle schooler's gross little fantasy.


So how do you like it? I've been thinking of playing it but I kind of got turned off by a youtube someone posted of terrible clunky dialog and reports of bad combat mechanics.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Unfortunatly, even today, a lot of guys still treat the number of women that they sleep with as some sort of trophy.  I remeber a party where a number of my friends were comparing the total number of women they had slept with and being disapointed that someone else was so far ahead of them.  Not something I was exactly proud of them to say.


I've slept with woman and  men while also sleeping with  .

OH SNAP.

-2 women, 0 men and 500 Hutts?  I am impressed.

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I just think Geralt being promiscuous suited his character and situation really well.



But, for the purposes of this thread, I'll make the point again.



I'd just like the "sex scenes" to be less character models awkwardly bumping pixels and more concept art/video/suggestive. (Like the way the Witcher cards looked, not necessarily quite that promiscuous.)

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Anarya wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Firky wrote...

(Forgive if this has been covered.)

Not that I'm suggesting DA2 should go all Witcher, but I really liked those collectable cards. Firstly, they were like erotic art, not character models whose facial expressions and bare shoulders don't really get the right mood across (IMO). Also, The Witcher didn't bother trying to show you a sex scene. Sometimes suggestive is infinitely better. (Especially in a videogame.)

Also, I heard that Geralt is a lot less promiscuous in The Witcher 2. I liked the promiscuity. It went hand in hand with the sterility/sense of desperation thing, for me anyway.


People have mentioned this, and it's a YMMV thing. Personally, I hate it. Hate it. What girl throws her panties at the guy who pointed out a mud puddle or something? It's completely unrealistic, not to mention the utter objectifying nature of it. That women may be "collected". Literally turned into trophies to be counted. It never once came off as "mature" to me (and I'm still playing the game at the moment). It felt like something from a middle schooler's gross little fantasy.


So how do you like it? I've been thinking of playing it but I kind of got turned off by a youtube someone posted of terrible clunky dialog and reports of bad combat mechanics.


I'm not very far in it, since I got my copy of NWN a few days after I downloaded it, but so far it's pleasing. Cheesy at times, I'll admit, but a lot of it is likable. As with all PC games, my enjoyment of it is hindered until I can memorize which of the nine hundred buttons does what, so I'm not one to tell you about combat or anything.  

Oh, and get the Enhanced Edition--I don't think they even sell the original anymore, but evidently it had a lot of problems in it. The new version fixes a lot--corny dialogue, numerous bugs, constant crashing...I think maybe you saw a version from the earlier copy.

Firky wrote...

I just think Geralt being promiscuous suited his character and situation really well.

But, for the purposes of this thread, I'll make the point again.

I'd just like the "sex scenes" to be less character models awkwardly bumping pixels and more concept art/video/suggestive. (Like the way the Witcher cards looked, not necessarily quite that promiscuous.)


Honestly, Alistair's was really charming and sweet. I loved it. I mean, my tougher characters had problems with the "oh, widdle ole virgin me" face they put on during the scene, but other than that, I really loved it. Leliana and Morrigan's...yeah, I laughed when I saw them.

Modifié par Saibh, 06 août 2010 - 08:11 .


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Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

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Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.

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Anarya wrote...

Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.




Ooh good to know. I'm extremely late to the party with all these games but they sound great.

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Anarya wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.




Ooh good to know. I'm extremely late to the party with all these games but they sound great.

I can never say enough good things about Baldur's Gate 2.  It single handedly turned me on to CRPG's.  To this day, I can't think of a game that has measured up to it's epicness in every single regard. 

Yeah, get it.  Now.  Stop reading this forum and get it.  Your RPG geek cred depends apon it!

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Anarya wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.




Ooh good to know. I'm extremely late to the party with all these games but they sound great.


NWN works so long as you take the proper steps. I am having horrific problems with BGII Throne of Bhaal. I can't get it to work, no way, no how. And it irritates me, since I want to mod the game, and I can't do that until all of the games and their expansions are installed.

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Saibh wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.




Ooh good to know. I'm extremely late to the party with all these games but they sound great.


NWN works so long as you take the proper steps. I am having horrific problems with BGII Throne of Bhaal. I can't get it to work, no way, no how. And it irritates me, since I want to mod the game, and I can't do that until all of the games and their expansions are installed.


Aw how frustrating. That sucks.

@Blastback: Oh no my precious geek cred! I'll probably have to order it on Amazon or something.

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Saibh wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.




Ooh good to know. I'm extremely late to the party with all these games but they sound great.


NWN works so long as you take the proper steps. I am having horrific problems with BGII Throne of Bhaal. I can't get it to work, no way, no how. And it irritates me, since I want to mod the game, and I can't do that until all of the games and their expansions are installed.

Huh, I got Throne of Bhaal in and it works just fine.  Don't know what to tell you.

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Blastback wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Yeah I would be buying the Steam version which is the Enhanced version, if I bought it. I'd like to maybe play the BG and NWN games too, but do they run on Win 7?

Don't know about NWN, but Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 run just fine.  Good thing to, or I'd probably go catatonic.




Ooh good to know. I'm extremely late to the party with all these games but they sound great.


NWN works so long as you take the proper steps. I am having horrific problems with BGII Throne of Bhaal. I can't get it to work, no way, no how. And it irritates me, since I want to mod the game, and I can't do that until all of the games and their expansions are installed.

Huh, I got Throne of Bhaal in and it works just fine.  Don't know what to tell you.


On Windows 7? Huh. I got it in the 4 in 1 boxset...maybe that makes a difference.

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it did puzzel me alot a game that in the UK already had an 18 rating for the violence would hide form nudity like a embarssed kid. I didnt particularly care about the romance and sex, it just seemed an odd choice. I cant imagine it would stop people playing the game who wanted to play it, and you'd attract teh cyber pervs XD

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"I wear the cheese, it does not wear me."

Seriously I enjoyed the scenes, although the diapers were a little funny. Fade to black I find much lamer.

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Blastback wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Unfortunatly, even today, a lot of guys still treat the number of women that they sleep with as some sort of trophy.  I remeber a party where a number of my friends were comparing the total number of women they had slept with and being disapointed that someone else was so far ahead of them.  Not something I was exactly proud of them to say.


I've slept with woman and  men while also sleeping with  .

OH SNAP.

-2 women, 0 men and 500 Hutts?  I am impressed.


Bingo.

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I agree, the Dragon Age love scenes was not very well done at all – too much going on. The ones in the first Mass Effect were a lot better – subtlety is the way to go.

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I agree, the Dragon Age love scenes was not very well done at all – too much going on. The ones in the first Mass Effect were a lot better – subtlety is the way to go.


I keep saying this on these boards. ME1 did romance scenes better than DA:O or ME2. Way better. 

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Saibh wrote...

Firky wrote...
Not that I'm suggesting DA2 should go all Witcher, but I really liked those collectable cards.


People have mentioned this, and it's a YMMV thing. Personally, I hate it. Hate it. What girl throws her panties at the guy who pointed out a mud puddle or something? It's completely unrealistic, not to mention the utter objectifying nature of it. That women may be "collected". Literally turned into trophies to be counted. It never once came off as "mature" to me (and I'm still playing the game at the moment). It felt like something from a middle schooler's gross little fantasy.


I'm a guy, and I thought the cards were kinda stupid.
I don't so much care about the way it presents women, and don't misinterpret that. I just mean that I didnt see the cards and then say "Oh my god, how dare they disrespect women in such a fashion!" and then proceed charging off to find CD Projekt to challenge them to a duel.

But the cards were just dumb. Something to appeal to pubescent 12 year old boys. I got bored of the witcher and never finished it. The cards were just whatever. 
But in a game like dragon age, something as stupid would just detract from the immersion.  

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slimgrin wrote...

Delta_Prime wrote...

I agree, the Dragon Age love scenes was not very well done at all – too much going on. The ones in the first Mass Effect were a lot better – subtlety is the way to go.


I keep saying this on these boards. ME1 did romance scenes better than DA:O or ME2. Way better. 


They were okay in ME2. Actually I only ever did Miranda's, so I cant speak for the others. Australian accents are freakin hot man. I always joke that I am going to move to australia to find a wife.
But yes.




Dear BioWare,

No cheese plz. Kthx.

Modifié par Dtelm, 06 août 2010 - 08:19 .