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[Ulfros]

Will everyone will play as this guy Hawke, and who you were and what you did in the first game doesn't mean jack? 

I personally was hoping for some sort of import feature such as the one in Awakening, allowing me to use my Origins character in DA2. Would be epic.


... besides, my ending said I went away towards Orlais in search of Morrigan... and I miss her. By far the most intriguing character in Origins apart from me. It's not like it's impossible to adapt the start of DA2 by the ending of everyone's game in Origins. Starting zones can change, and every imported character can be given a unique chain of side-quests involving tracing stuff from their first game. But I guess that won't be possible if DA2 takes place in the midst of Origins... unless this quest becomes unlocked once after Origins and Awakening timelines have passed in the new game? :>

Bring back Morrigan, 'Nuf said.

[Gegenlicht]

You're wrong.



Though I too would like to see more of Morrigan, always.

[Ulfros]

How am I wrong?

[Warheadz]

-You can import saved game data.

-everyone will play as Hawke. He is human, gender is your choice.

[Ulfros]

How is saved game data relevant if everyone plays as Hawke? Does he pop up wearing my real character's armor?

[Anathemic]

No basically your just importing your Warden's choices i don't think the Warden him/herself, maybe the Warden will make an appearance in DA2 but most likely you won't be able to control/be the Warden because you're already playing Hawke

[Thomas9321]

No it means you will experience the consequences of your DA:O choices throughout the game. Dragon Age is not about The Warden, it never has been, and they never said it was going to be so. Dragon Age is, funnily enough, about the Dragon Age.

[SirOccam]

Ulfros wrote...

Will everyone will play as this guy Hawke, and who you were and what you did in the first game doesn't mean jack? 

I personally was hoping for some sort of import feature such as the one in Awakening, allowing me to use my Origins character in DA2. Would be epic.


... besides, my ending said I went away towards Orlais in search of Morrigan... and I miss her. By far the most intriguing character in Origins apart from me. It's not like it's impossible to adapt the start of DA2 by the ending of everyone's game in Origins. Starting zones can change, and every imported character can be given a unique chain of side-quests involving tracing stuff from their first game. But I guess that won't be possible if DA2 takes place in the midst of Origins... unless this quest becomes unlocked once after Origins and Awakening timelines have passed in the new game? :>

Bring back Morrigan, 'Nuf said.

Lots of us want to find Morrigan with our GWs and have a bit of closure. But they've said there will be more DLC and patches for DAO before DA2 is released. I'm betting that's where it'll happen. I'd of course like to end the GWs tale riding off (err, walking off...no horses) into the sunset with Morrigan on his arm. But even if it's a more tragic ending and she dies or something, then I just want the option to take his trip into the Deep Roads and end it all or make another Ultimate Sacrifice. Morrigan IS his story, and either way, I'll be ready to move on to a new character.

[Ulfros]

Oh, well that's kind of cool anyway. But I would really love continuing my own character, not some pre-made one. He and his friends grew on me

[Lord_Saulot]

Ulfros wrote...

Oh, well that's kind of cool anyway. But I would really love continuing my own character, not some pre-made one. He and his friends grew on me

The only choice you don't have for Hawke is your race. 

[Warheadz]

Do you really think that Bioware will just let all the amazing plot elements that were in origins to just dust in the corner? Don't think so. It has been announced that Flemeth will be there, and i bet Morrigan, her godbaby and other important elements of the story will make a comeback in DA 2.

Modifié par Warheadz, 11 juillet 2010 - 07:04 .

[Rogue Unit]

Ulfros wrote...

Oh, well that's kind of cool anyway. But I would really love continuing my own character, not some pre-made one. He and his friends grew on me

Everything about your Waren is just as pre-made as Hawke except the race.

[Ulfros]

Rogue Unit wrote...

Ulfros wrote...

Oh, well that's kind of cool anyway. But I would really love continuing my own character, not some pre-made one. He and his friends grew on me

Everything about your Waren is just as pre-made as Hawke except the race.

I respectfully disagree. The point of a true RPG game is that you become one with your character, after playing it for a while. He is your avatar. I know many would disagree, but I for one wouldn't start a second character in a game without considering it an extra char for benefits OOC, or to see aspects of the game I could not with my "main".

Like I said, most of what you guys told me now is really cool, and I appreciate you enlightening me--but I still feel like my playtime in Origins is being sh*t on. It's cool and all that my choices etc have an impact on this Hawk guy, but it doesn't really matter if you look at it twice, as Hawk would be a new experience for us anyways, and anything they throw at him would seem new, fresh, and cool during DA2. The only thing I can think of that would bring me goosebumps is if NPCs specifically says "Ulfros saved us yadayada, he's the man", where as I'm fearing it will just be "Some guy was mean/nice to us, then he got himself killed while slaying the Archdemon (despite the fact he actually performed a dark ritual and lived for many a heroic tales to come)"...

[Gegenlicht]

Ulfros wrote...

I respectfully disagree. The point of a true RPG game is that you become one with your character, after playing it for a while. He is your avatar. I know many would disagree, but I for one wouldn't start a second character in a game without considering it an extra char for benefits OOC, or to see aspects of the game I could not with my "main".

I think the best points I've seen people make so far come down to this:


One, the Warden's story is mostly told. He or she saved all of Ferelden by not simply slaying the beast but marshalling forces from all around the land to do so. What Maric did with the human people of Ferelden, you did with... everyone, really. Be it Mages or Templars, Werewolves or Dalish, you found allies in every corner of the world and made it a better place, even giving Ferelden a new and proper king or queen in the process.

You can't really top that without taking on the Maker himself, can you?


Two, there is a very real possibility that the Warden is dead. My first Rogue died slaying the Archdemon. She very much found closure in the act. She could have had a couple more good years with Zevran or Leiliana, yes, but at the end of the day, she wanted to be with her parents and (so she thought) brother. If she knew Ferelden safe, that was good enough for her. (And while she liked Morrigan well enough, she didn't really trust her plan.)

Other people hated Morrigan too much, or didn't want her to sleep with an Alistair they were romancing. Bottom line is, there are enough stories of OUR Warden that end in death. Not tragedy, because the Warden's work was very much done at the point of death. The same arguments you make for being allowed to continue to play the Warden can be made to support his/her death.

Not all good endings also need to be happy ones, and consciously choosing and accepting that end of the story can be just as involving and rewarding as having the Warden live to fight another day.


Three, really, six Origins as opposed to a presumed one. The Origin stories in DA:O were very very nice overall (didn't much care for the Casteless or Dalish ones myself, but found them quaint enough). But you didn't really get a lot of choice in them either. Your choice in the human noble one was limited to getting laid or not for example. There is no telling whether the single Origin of Hawke will not allow for more permutations from the get-go and yield us a character who is just as much 'ours' as the Warden was.

Yes, we're locked into the last name, and it's a bit of a cheesy one. But a third of DA:O characters were also locked into having a last name as you may recall. The last name is simply a trick to allow them to actually address your character in the voiced dialogue. It gets silly if they always have to refer to you by titles, don't you think?

The bottom line is, no, Hawke is not the Warden, but there's a good chance you'll be able to make him yours and tell a different story in a different part of that world with just as much immersion and personalization.

[Gill Kaiser]

Ah well, maybe you'll end up liking your Hawke even more than you liked your Warden. There's no way to tell at this point.

[Bryy_Miller]

Ulfros wrote...

Oh, well that's kind of cool anyway. But I would really love continuing my own character, not some pre-made one. He and his friends grew on me

Then the writers did their job.

[Luke Bioware]

People on this board are pathetic. I'm never coming back here again. Hopefully there is a place on the internet where there are sensible 'BioWare fans' who don't judge a game on its... announcement info. Bah.

Edit: MOST people. Excusez moi.

Modifié par Luke Bioware, 11 juillet 2010 - 11:41 .

[Quinnzel]

Gegenlicht wrote...

You can't really top that without taking on the Maker himself, can you?

That sounds like a dare . Mr. Galder, I hope ye read this ^.

[MarchWaltz]

Remember, once a warden BECOMES a warden, they only have like 10 years to live or something, before they start going insane from the blood.

[Riona45]

Ulfros wrote...

Will everyone will play as this guy Hawke, and who you were and what you did in the first game doesn't mean jack? 

Uh, according to the developers that's not right.

[Gegenlicht]

Quinnzel wrote...

Gegenlicht wrote...

You can't really top that without taking on the Maker himself, can you?

That sounds like a dare . Mr. Galder, I hope ye read this ^.

Well, I've done a lot of thinking recently, and basically I've resolved to believe that if the Maker exists, he's a ******.

[Riona45]

Ulfros wrote...
The point of a true RPG game is that you become one with your character, after playing it for a while. He is your avatar.

No reason why that can't happen with Hawke.  Gegenlicht put it well I think.

Modifié par Riona45, 11 juillet 2010 - 11:53 .

[Jestina]

I never got attached to Shepard because it just felt like you were following some writers character through a forty minute movie. I doubt I will feel any attachment with Moe Hawke either.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

MarchWaltz wrote...

Remember, once a warden BECOMES a warden, they only have like 10 years to live or something, before they start going insane from the blood.

More like 30, and they don't go insane from the blood they just turn into ghouls, or something like that.

Modifié par Solostran85, 11 juillet 2010 - 11:58 .

[Riona45]

Gegenlicht wrote...


Well, I've done a lot of thinking recently, and basically I've resolved to believe that if the Maker exists, he's a ******.

Heh, agreed.

MarchWaltz, it's supposed to be about thirty years, actually.  But overall I'm satisfied with my Warden's story and it doesn't bother me that DA2 will star a new character.