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#26
SirOccam

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Ulfros wrote...

I respectfully disagree. The point of a true RPG game is that you become one with your character, after playing it for a while. He is your avatar. I know many would disagree, but I for one wouldn't start a second character in a game without considering it an extra char for benefits OOC, or to see aspects of the game I could not with my "main".

I, in turn, respectfully disagree with this. I think it's a perfectly valid way to play RPGs, but I don't think putting yourself in the shoes of the main character is necessarily the point. The point is that you're taking on a role. To always have to make decisions that you would personally make in that position is unnecessarily limiting yourself, in my opinion. I doubt any of us here are truly evil, so right there you miss out on all the fun content that results from making the more evil choices.

I imagine a personality for my characters, then try to stay faithful to THAT, more than to what I would personally do. My main character is a sort of idealistic/naïve City Elf at the beginning, then gets a hell of an education over the course of the game. Although he shares some characteristics with me personally (he made mostly "good" choices, as I like to think I would do), he's not modeled after me. Then I have a power-hungry and arrogant mage who is most DEFINITELY not like me. The City Elf is my main character because I loved his story the best; not because he is me.

Now if we turn our attention to Hawke, well...we know absolutely nothing about his personality. We know he (or she) is a human, and that he lived in Lothering, and that he ran to Kirkwall at some point. None of that tells us anything about the PERSON. All these people claiming that Hawke is "pre-made" seem to be missing that point. We are free to shape and mould his personality to our whims...surely that is the essence of role-playing.

Modifié par SirOccam, 12 juillet 2010 - 12:02 .


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Gegenlicht

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Well, to be fair, that's what he might have meant by 'becoming one'. I know I get into the zone with my RPG characters (much more so in tabletops and LARPs, of course) to where I can't immediately distinguish which thought is mine, and which one belongs to the made-up personality I'm carrying around. Call it small scale method acting if you like.

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Gegenlicht wrote...

Well, to be fair, that's what he might have meant by 'becoming one'. I know I get into the zone with my RPG characters (much more so in tabletops and LARPs, of course) to where I can't immediately distinguish which thought is mine, and which one belongs to the made-up personality I'm carrying around. Call it small scale method acting if you like.

Well he specifically said "he's your avatar." An avatar is a personification or representation of something. Not a translation or adaptation.

Well either way, if I misunderstood, then scratch that part, but I think the rest (about Hawke supposedly being "pre-made" and us not being given any freedom to RP) still stands.

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Kangaxx628

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Like others, I too am disappointed by the lack of closure and loose ends. I also agree that unless Hawke plans on storming the fade and retaking the golden city, my AW/BM char from origins would be overpowered(not too mention he would be to busy removing Antiva from the face of Thedas). One nice part of Origins was seeing the story unfold from different POVs. Which seems unlikely with Hawke whose back story has been set.