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[packardbell]

jableskage wrote...

the only reason consoles are winning the "game war" is because its more profitable (e.g a PC game is £25-£30 and a console game is £40-£50) the PC made games and the devs are taking advantage to make more money! PC gaming is not dead else why would new GPU's come out every 3 months??? I will support the PC for as long as i breath!!!

BACK ON TOPIC PLZ!

How much does a suitable PC cost to run those games while looking detailed and being cost effective? Certainly more than consoles right? But I already proved your flawed logic wrong and that WAS being on topic.

I am also a supporter of PC gaming but I'm not blind and ignorant to whats happening. 

[MaaZeus]

alickar wrote...

both hav no compition fable 3 haz a liner story n the witcher 2 is only released on PC = DA2 gets more sales

Ah yes, "console gamers", we have dismissed that claim...

[Liso66]

packardbell wrote...

jableskage wrote...

the only reason consoles are winning the "game war" is because its more profitable (e.g a PC game is £25-£30 and a console game is £40-£50) the PC made games and the devs are taking advantage to make more money! PC gaming is not dead else why would new GPU's come out every 3 months??? I will support the PC for as long as i breath!!!

BACK ON TOPIC PLZ!

How much does a suitable PC cost to run those games while looking detailed and being cost effective? Certainly more than consoles right? But I already proved your flawed logic wrong and that WAS being on topic.

I am also a supporter of PC gaming but I'm not blind and ignorant to whats happening. 

I think a definite reason why for the changes from DAO
to DA2

Console
Players.

The console players gave a lower rating
and had several complaints in regards to controls, no strategy views
etc. In order to please all platforms "Which ME2" excelled in. Dragon
Effect was created.. In all seriousness. This just makes the most
sense. It also makes good business sense for them..

Lets face it. Computer gamers are only a
fraction of gamers.. Consoles have gotten to be a HUGE market. For BW
not to streamline as you say, would be terrible business sense on their
part.

I for one? Hope they "streamline" all platforms always.. I
wish most companies did. There have been several console games that I
found interesting. However, will never play them because I am not
running out to buy a console system as well.

Nearly every
household has a computer of some sort. Not every household has a gaming
system. Let's face it, keeping up to date with new builds and upgrades
for a gaming system is much more costly and requires some knowledge of
PCs. Hard core gamers are usually somewhat PC savvy.. Console only
gamers? Not always the case. AND! Console upkeep is far less expensive
with less hassle than maintaining a Gaming PC..

"I will go back on topic now.. Sorry..  

[packardbell]

Liso66 wrote...

packardbell wrote...

jableskage wrote...

the only reason consoles are winning the "game war" is because its more profitable (e.g a PC game is £25-£30 and a console game is £40-£50) the PC made games and the devs are taking advantage to make more money! PC gaming is not dead else why would new GPU's come out every 3 months??? I will support the PC for as long as i breath!!!

BACK ON TOPIC PLZ!

How much does a suitable PC cost to run those games while looking detailed and being cost effective? Certainly more than consoles right? But I already proved your flawed logic wrong and that WAS being on topic.

I am also a supporter of PC gaming but I'm not blind and ignorant to whats happening. 

I think a definite reason why for the changes from DAO
to DA2

Console
Players.

The console players gave a lower rating
and had several complaints in regards to controls, no strategy views
etc. In order to please all platforms "Which ME2" excelled in. Dragon
Effect was created.. In all seriousness. This just makes the most
sense. It also makes good business sense for them..

Lets face it. Computer gamers are only a
fraction of gamers.. Consoles have gotten to be a HUGE market. For BW
not to streamline as you say, would be terrible business sense on their
part.

I for one? Hope they "streamline" all platforms always.. I
wish most companies did. There have been several console games that I
found interesting. However, will never play them because I am not
running out to buy a console system as well.

Nearly every
household has a computer of some sort. Not every household has a gaming
system. Let's face it, keeping up to date with new builds and upgrades
for a gaming system is much more costly and requires some knowledge of
PCs. Hard core gamers are usually somewhat PC savvy.. Console only
gamers? Not always the case. AND! Console upkeep is far less expensive
with less hassle than maintaining a Gaming PC..

"I will go back on topic now.. Sorry..  

100% agreed, heck in 10 years PC gaming will probably be phased out altogether. But that's a very disturbing thought indeed.

[Wikal]

Really have to say it's a tie between Witcher 2 and Fable 3.



Fable 3 comes out in October, so there wouldn't be too much competition between DA2, which has been estimated to be out March, while Witcher 2 would be the bigger rival due to the closer release date (Q1 2011).



However, at the same time, Fable 3 has the potential to compete with DA2 across several platforms (although Fable is mostly a console game while DA had the reputation of catering mostly to pc gamers, not sure about DA2) while Witcher seems likely to be PC only

[Liso66]

slimgrin wrote...

No way will be pc gaming be phased out. It's the more diversified and updated platform, one that console publishers deliberately treat as second rate. But it's a free market, and backlash trends can be hell.

PC gaming isn't going anywhere.

I agree.. Way to much money in the latest and greatest gadgets.

I am a 100% PC gamer.. I would however love to see some of those cool console games make the platform leap and give us more gaming goodness!

[Lyssistr]

Witcher

[Kaiser Shepard]

jableskage wrote...

the only reason consoles are winning the "game war" is because its more profitable (e.g a PC game is £25-£30 and a console game is £40-£50) the PC made games and the devs are taking advantage to make more money! PC gaming is not dead else why would new GPU's come out every 3 months??? I will support the PC for as long as i breath!!!

BACK ON TOPIC PLZ!

Erhm, no. The difference in price is caused by the developer/publisher having to pay Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo a licensing fee, whereas the pc as a platform doesn't belong to anyone.

[Revya]

Main rival will be SW:TOR.



At least for my time

[hexaligned]

Liso66 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

No way will be pc gaming be phased out. It's the more diversified and updated platform, one that console publishers deliberately treat as second rate. But it's a free market, and backlash trends can be hell.

PC gaming isn't going anywhere.

I agree.. Way to much money in the latest and greatest gadgets.

I am a 100% PC gamer.. I would however love to see some of those cool console games make the platform leap and give us more gaming goodness!

Well if you have a beefy enough system, there are plenty of emulators out there that let you play console games on the PC, usually with much better resolutions than their counterparts.

[AllThatJazz]

Really looking forward to Witcher 2 and New Vegas, as well as DA2 and Deus Ex III. Am intrigued by DSIII, just because I like Obsidian and enjoyed the first Dungeon Siege well enough (not the second one, though, I got bored). Curious about Fable III, but will likely only buy it if there really are significant changes from its predecessors. Just couldn't finish Fables I or II, despite starting both multiple times.



Competition? Honestly, they all seem to fill different niches (Action/RPG/Sandbox/Linear storydriven/Hack n slash), but at the same time all similar enough to compete a bit. My guess is that release date will be the most important factor for a lot of people.



Hope my wallet can take the kind of hammering it's going to get over the next year or so .

[Ulicus]

Leafs43 wrote...

The Fable series sucks.

It doesn't suck but it's no-way near as good as it could be. There's too much focus on (really godawful, very-sub Pratchett) "humour", rather than an emphasis of the sort of "Brothers Grimm fairytale tone" they originally said the first game was gonna go for.

[jableskage]

packardbell wrote...

jableskage wrote...

the only reason consoles are winning the "game war" is because its more profitable (e.g a PC game is £25-£30 and a console game is £40-£50) the PC made games and the devs are taking advantage to make more money! PC gaming is not dead else why would new GPU's come out every 3 months??? I will support the PC for as long as i breath!!!

BACK ON TOPIC PLZ!

How much does a suitable PC cost to run those games while looking detailed and being cost effective? Certainly more than consoles right? But I already proved your flawed logic wrong and that WAS being on topic.

I am also a supporter of PC gaming but I'm not blind and ignorant to whats happening. 

Well not much if you keep on top of upgrading your PC? however consoles are cost effective but produce a fraction of what a PC is capable off... I will go PC for any game!

[GraciousCat]

Say what you will, but I consider myself a "hardcore" RPG gamer, and I do plan on getting Fable III when it releases. I also plan on getting Dragon Age II the day it releases (5 months later than Fable).

[Last Darkness]

Not a rival to me, Im getting all 3. For the PC this time around too where applicapable. Learnt my lesson.

[TSamee]

Yeah, I have to agree with GraciousCat there. I know Peter Molyneux can't say a sentence without hyping his games beyond belief, but Fable III actually looks like it'll innovate. The fact that your mansion is essentially your pause menu sounds awesome, and according to a recent preview on CVG, the combat's crossed into Devil May Cry territory. I know that we're all instinctively sceptical when a Lionhead title's announced, but I'm pretty excited about Fable III. More so than DA2 at the moment, actually, but that's guaranteed to change after a preview.

[packardbell]

jableskage wrote...

packardbell wrote...

jableskage wrote...

the only reason consoles are winning the "game war" is because its more profitable (e.g a PC game is £25-£30 and a console game is £40-£50) the PC made games and the devs are taking advantage to make more money! PC gaming is not dead else why would new GPU's come out every 3 months??? I will support the PC for as long as i breath!!!

BACK ON TOPIC PLZ!

How much does a suitable PC cost to run those games while looking detailed and being cost effective? Certainly more than consoles right? But I already proved your flawed logic wrong and that WAS being on topic.

I am also a supporter of PC gaming but I'm not blind and ignorant to whats happening. 

Well not much if you keep on top of upgrading your PC? however consoles are cost effective but produce a fraction of what a PC is capable off... I will go PC for any game!

To be in top you'll have to pay 300 quid for a graphics card everytime one is avaliable sure you DON'T have to but you said to stay on top which is false.

Besides nobody on  the consoles expect graphics, they expect fun gameplay and to be quickly acsessible. 

[MaaZeus]

packardbell wrote...

To be in top you'll have to pay 300 quid for a graphics card everytime one is avaliable sure you DON'T have to but you said to stay on top which is false.

Besides nobody on  the consoles expect graphics, they expect fun gameplay and to be quickly acsessible. 

Only if you are enthusiast. In all honesty, 200quid single-core graphics card can run games several years on max settings and on 1920x1200 resolution with acceptably framerates, especially on the pace PC games are evolving nowadays. 3 year old dual and quadcore processors with mild overclock are still perfectly fine, no need to upgrade. Hell, upgrading to modern i7 systems is pretty much a waste of money.

So no, you dont have to upgrade PCs that often, not anymore.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 12 juillet 2010 - 01:24 .

[Khayness]

Gonna buy DA2 and The Witcher, not like RPG players have the luxury of choice.

Peter Molyneux can got to hell.

[packardbell]

MaaZeus wrote...

packardbell wrote...

To be in top you'll have to pay 300 quid for a graphics card everytime one is avaliable sure you DON'T have to but you said to stay on top which is false.

Besides nobody on  the consoles expect graphics, they expect fun gameplay and to be quickly acsessible. 

Only if you are enthusiast. In all honesty, 200quid single-core graphics card can run games several years on max settings and on 1920x1200 resolution with acceptably framerates, especially on the pace PC games are evolving nowadays.

That might be true but my point was that not expecting console platforms of a game is equally ridiculous.

[Kohaku]

Khayness wrote...

Gonna buy DA2 and The Witcher, not like RPG players have the luxury of choice.
Peter Molyneux can got to hell.

I really want to say this too. However, I already pre-ordered Fable 3. I already know he's going back pedal on all the promises he made. Like the last two.

[snfonseka]

Witcher all the way !!!!!