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A new theory about the DA universe (earlier posted on other thread)


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ah yeah hadnt thought about it like.i was stuck on the train of thought that the demons would hold all the knowledge of blood magic therefore would now about that but as u said if it came much later then it would be alien ^^ very enlightning

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just one more question about the black city: what the ... is there??? i mean even the demons don't want to got there. imo its the dark force that rules the darkspawn... just a thougt.

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just one more question about the black city: what the ... is there??? i mean even the demons don't want to got there. imo its the dark force that rules the darkspawn... just a thougt.


No freaking idea!! Guesses..??? Plenty...

The mirrors in the dalish-elf origin... Tamlen tells you on touching the mirror, that he sees a sunken city that has turned black, and IT sees him!!! IT?? Now waitaminute.... that means there is someone/thing there which rules the city from within... this is either inside the actual physical Arlathan or the Black city.. we don't know... But it may be Fen'Harel himself? Because if I remember correctly the pronoun for whatever inside was, it was IT... like a wolf...

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SirShreK wrote...

iTomes wrote...

just one more question about the black city: what the ... is there??? i mean even the demons don't want to got there. imo its the dark force that rules the darkspawn... just a thougt.


No freaking idea!! Guesses..??? Plenty...

The mirrors in the dalish-elf origin... Tamlen tells you on touching the mirror, that he sees a sunken city that has turned black, and IT sees him!!! IT?? Now waitaminute.... that means there is someone/thing there which rules the city from within... this is either inside the actual physical Arlathan or the Black city.. we don't know... But it may be Fen'Harel himself? Because if I remember correctly the pronoun for whatever inside was, it was IT... like a wolf...



i never thougt of the mirror that way.... well these mirrors were used for communication. maybe one of them stood in arlathan when it was beamed up. and that it thing makes sense. and the mirror spread the taint. maybe the dalish were the first since centurys who found a way into the black city.... and duncan smashed it! damn you duncan! id kill you if you werent dead already!

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iTomes wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

iTomes wrote...

just one more question about the black city: what the ... is there??? i mean even the demons don't want to got there. imo its the dark force that rules the darkspawn... just a thougt.


No freaking idea!! Guesses..??? Plenty...

The mirrors in the dalish-elf origin... Tamlen tells you on touching the mirror, that he sees a sunken city that has turned black, and IT sees him!!! IT?? Now waitaminute.... that means there is someone/thing there which rules the city from within... this is either inside the actual physical Arlathan or the Black city.. we don't know... But it may be Fen'Harel himself? Because if I remember correctly the pronoun for whatever inside was, it was IT... like a wolf...



i never thougt of the mirror that way.... well these mirrors were used for communication. maybe one of them stood in arlathan when it was beamed up. and that it thing makes sense. and the mirror spread the taint. maybe the dalish were the first since centurys who found a way into the black city.... and duncan smashed it! damn you duncan! id kill you if you werent dead already!


My guess? They were installed by the imperium when they were on talking terms with the Elders...

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that could be possible. or the tevinter mages placed it there when they explored the city in the fade. its magical, so you dont need an physical object. and the fact that the ruins were elven tevinter mix would make sense too. maybe the old temple the dalish found was the operation base of the expedition into the fade.

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The mirrors could be more than communication devices of course.. they could be portals....

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dammit....... now i want to go wherever the dead souls go and kill duncan again!!!!! dammit! but why did that cave appear in the first place. could it be that whatever evil force is behind the darkspawn is joining them during blights. you know... bringing the taint and stuff.

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Good theory!

I really agree that the elves are the ones that somehow originated the curse. We already saw how powerful their curses can be (remember what Zathrian did!).

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Good point... It was not there earlier.... hmm... more speculation coming... Perhaps such caves appear whenever a blight is to begin? Perhaps the once buried arlathan is rising again piece-by-piece? and the cave is ACTUALLY a part of Arlathan? But then it has some human construction inside also.. so perhaps no... Any ideas?




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Funny_chan wrote...

Good theory!
I really agree that the elves are the ones that somehow originated the curse. We already saw how powerful their curses can be (remember what Zathrian did!).



and zathrian was only some usual keeper and made an all boody and character change. the very powerfull elves can do better. but if they did the same with the invaders of the black city as zath with the werewolfs there would have to be some spirit the taint is bound on.....

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and which is living in the black city?????

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SirShreK wrote...

Good point... It was not there earlier.... hmm... more speculation coming... Perhaps such caves appear whenever a blight is to begin? Perhaps the once buried arlathan is rising again piece-by-piece? and the cave is ACTUALLY a part of Arlathan? But then it has some human construction inside also.. so perhaps no... Any ideas?



well maybe those caves are used as points from were the evil force can watch the blight. i mean the fade and the real world are seperated but if theres a blight you want to watch that and intervene eventually. so you need entrances to the real world so you can tell your archdemon servant to do this or to kill that and so on.

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SirShreK wrote...

and which is living in the black city?????




exactly my thoughts. so, in order to end all darkspawn, youd just have to go to the black city and kill some ancient epic evil....... mmhhh i smell an endboss.....

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tha would offer a vey limited vista... The walls..



Perhaps its there to lure the unwary and spread the taint...



But remember... as soon as the mirror is found, Darkspawn appear... whether they come out of the mirror or for the mirror, is uncertain.... But since there are the dead-undead guys behind it... and Duncan sits there all the time.. I think Darkspawns are attracted towards it... please argue on this.. it can be really important...

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SirShreK wrote...

tha would offer a vey limited vista... The walls..

Perhaps its there to lure the unwary and spread the taint...

But remember... as soon as the mirror is found, Darkspawn appear... whether they come out of the mirror or for the mirror, is uncertain.... But since there are the dead-undead guys behind it... and Duncan sits there all the time.. I think Darkspawns are attracted towards it... please argue on this.. it can be really important...




the vista isn't that limited. as soon as you ARE in the real world, some godlike evil creature can see much, propably through the eyes of the darkspawn. maybe the undead are only an sideproduct of the black magic that was once used in that temple. i mean, if this IS the place were the tevinter mages tried to reach for the dark city, there was a lot of black magic. propably the darkspawn were trying to protect the mirror. from being destroyed or, much worse for them, being used as a portal to the ghost that binds the taint.

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I am pretty sure that Duncan knew what he was doing... He was clearly afraid of the mirror and had seen its likes earlier... He actually said that it was attracting the darkspawn...

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hmmmmm propably going through the mirror is not possible because the taint will always get you first so destroying is really the only option. but how to reach the black city then. maybe "dreaming" yourself in through the fade?

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i know. By going to the Physical Arlathan and then dreaming or using Lyrium.

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that one could work. problem is youll propably need a fast exit and the lyrium trick could end fatal because its the same way going in that the tevinter mages used. so the trap the tevinter mages went into just could go of again. propably the demons know the way in?

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Perhaps the wardens are immune?

i can imagine an epic battle in the deep roads to reach the City or arlathan, then battling whatever stays there.. then setting up a ritual there to go into the fade and defeating maker equivalent spirit in the Fade Arlathan...

Modifié par SirShreK, 12 juillet 2010 - 01:39 .


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well.... that would be pretty epic. especially because the darkspawn surely dont want this and will do anything to stop it. so first battling in to the ritual point and then sending a small team (PC plus his companions) into the fade while the rest trys to defend there bodies. that DOES sound epic.

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and besides that youll need much lyrium AND blood just to send a few in. so you cant just send lets say ten men (four in the fade 6 defending them) but youll have to send so much more that you wont be able to sneak through anymore. that means....armytime!

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iTomes wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Tw@t is a British swearword that refers to a female's genitalia. Colloquially it is used to negatively describe a person in the same way as d*ck, as*hole, etc.



a thank you now i got one more word to insult people in another language..


*facepalm* British is not "another language", in fact, it isn't a language at all! They speak English, the same language you're using.

Anyways, I think it's an interesting theory, you'll have to excuse me if I take it with a grain of salt, though. :)

Modifié par ladydea, 12 juillet 2010 - 01:52 .


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ladydea wrote...

iTomes wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Tw@t is a British swearword that refers to a female's genitalia. Colloquially it is used to negatively describe a person in the same way as d*ck, as*hole, etc.



a thank you now i got one more word to insult people in another language..


*facepalm* British is not "another language", in fact, it isn't a language at all! They speak English, the same language you're using.

Anyways, I think it's an interesting theory, you'll have to excuse me if I take it with a grain of salt, though. :)




im german, so for me it is another language. besides that, i should get some sleep now. dont know in which timezone u guys live, but in mine its 4 o'clock in the night....so good night.