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After completing both Drake Scale Armor and Dragon Scale Armor side quests, Herren will not allow me to see his wares anymore. He's the one selling the best Rogue chest and I can't buy it now that I have the gold. He basically tells me to hit the road. HELP!!!

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Any help would be appreciated.

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XKingpin80X

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Err double post.:bandit:

Modifié par XKingpin80X, 10 novembre 2009 - 06:21 .


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I think that's as intended and yep, a bit silly to be locked out of that sales inventory after getting Drake & Dragon Scale armors.

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XKingpin80X

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Hope not; any confirmation from devs/Bioware?

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I also think this is intended. You get the option to offer money for the drake scale armors, I'm guessing that if you do pay for them you remain in good standing with Herren.

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I paid both times to get Superior quality of the armor and he will not budge. Wish there was a warning somewhere about this. I did not realize this would happen and spent 10+ played hours since the Drake Scale quests were completed and gathered enough gold to buy that chest only to be turned away. Very disappointed the devs would just make this part as is.

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If you listen/read what he says. He tells you "You're not welcome here anymore" after you get the armor. I thought that was pretty clear...

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I guess its something to remember on my 2nd play through. Completed on Easy and boy was this fun.

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That's really lame. I don't have enough gold to purchase the good stuff there, yet I have all the drake/dragon scales to make the armors. Such pointless design.

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If I recall I only ran into this issue while he was making the armor. But I don't recall if I tried to purchase anything after the dragon scale armor.

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This is working as intended. If you need to buy anything from them, do it BEFORE you have dragonscale made.

If you notice the (well not so subtle). it's OBVIOUS they are a couple.... and the more armor you have made the more the guy up front gets pissed off at you....

And by you having all this armor made, they aren't getting any more bussiness.. so the sacrifice for getting all this armor made is not being able to use their store anymore (I got confirmation from BW on this)

You can use the swarf store outside in the marketplace still

Modifié par TallBearNC, 24 novembre 2009 - 03:01 .


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And by you having all this armor made, they aren't getting any more bussiness.. so the sacrifice for getting all this armor made is not being able to use their store anymore (I got confirmation from BW on this)

There are two problems with this:
  • The player is given the choice to pay upfront for the armors (a total of 30 sovereigns). If Wade wants to do the job for that sum, or even free or charge, even though Herren feels it's not enough, then that's Wade problem and not the player's. The player is effectively punished for Wade's decision, seeing as they're unable to pay whatever theoretical sum that would please Herren.
  • It makes no sense that Herren no longer wants to accept the player's money, seeing as it's his job to sell armor for money. He's not paying the player - the player is paying him. How on earth can he dislike the player so much that he's no longer willing to accept money for armor that's already crafted? The player is paying the same amount of money as other NPCs would've, had they been able to buy things. Herren is not gaining anything by refusing, so it makes absolutely no sense.
[*]Obviously it's working as intended, as hinted by Herren's dialog, but that doesn't mean it's good design, especially when there's no definite warning prior to crafting the armor.

Modifié par Meadowz, 24 novembre 2009 - 12:08 .


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Meadowz wrote...

And by you having all this armor made, they aren't getting any more bussiness.. so the sacrifice for getting all this armor made is not being able to use their store anymore (I got confirmation from BW on this)

There are two problems with this:
  • The player is given the choice to pay upfront for the armors (a total of 30 sovereigns). If Wade wants to do the job for that sum, or even free or charge, even though Herren feels it's not enough, then that's Wade problem and not the player's. The player is effectively punished for Wade's decision, seeing as they're unable to pay whatever theoretical sum that would please Herren.
  • It makes no sense that Herren no longer wants to accept the player's money, seeing as it's his job to sell armor for money. He's not paying the player - the player is paying him. How on earth can he dislike the player so much that he's no longer willing to accept money for armor that's already crafted? The player is paying the same amount of money as other NPCs would've, had they been able to buy things. Herren is not gaining anything by refusing, so it makes absolutely no sense.
[*]Obviously it's working as intended, as hinted by Herren's dialog, but that doesn't mean it's good design, especially when there's no definite warning prior to crafting the armor.

[*]That's the only problem I had with the design also.

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TallBearNC wrote...

This is working as intended. If you need to buy anything from them, do it BEFORE you have dragonscale made.

If you notice the (well not so subtle). it's OBVIOUS they are a couple.... and the more armor you have made the more the guy up front gets pissed off at you....

And by you having all this armor made, they aren't getting any more bussiness.. so the sacrifice for getting all this armor made is not being able to use their store anymore (I got confirmation from BW on this)

You can use the swarf store outside in the marketplace still


Definitely bad design. Unfortunately that seems to be the trend with a lot of games anymore. Dangle something in front of the player and then punish them like it is a trap and yell 'Haha, I beat you!'

Try as you might, that is what it comes down to.

Modifié par Alneverus, 24 novembre 2009 - 11:14 .


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Guys, I just did those quests and I can still buy from the shop....
Have both the drake scale armor and then heavy dragon bone plate stuff.....went back to the guy and I can still purchase his stuff...

Modifié par mosti, 28 novembre 2009 - 07:41 .