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[Pocketgb]

Arttis wrote...

Only good for people who were not there at the start.

I was there when it was announced and I'm excited about DA2.

More people need to start speaking for themselves.

Modifié par Pocketgb, 12 juillet 2010 - 07:19 .

[Tooneyman]

LPPrince wrote...

Swoo wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Do we really need ANOTHER thread on the same subject? We've got like 20 up right now, its insane.

I'm glad you made a good post, but this is probably just going to attract more hate from people who feel miffed about DA2 not being DAO2.

Actually Bioware just might make another DA:O 2. If enough people get behind the idea. Just it will be called DA:O 2. Not  DA 2. IT just seems like two different subjects.

I highly doubt that, but you never know. Still, I HIGHLY, VERY VERY HIGHLY, doubt that will ever happen.

Nope. I'm positive it will never happen.

They've confirmed that 2-11 is still a Dragon Age product of some sort (I forget who posted it, I'll dig for Brock's quote of the quote), and according to their company information whatever it is is set for multiple gaming platforms, while DA2 is what...five weeks after that date?

One of my largest worries right now is they came out and said that if they used a player voice in Origins, they would have had to cut the rest of the dialogue in half and that the DLC would have suffered just the same. Now I'm wondering does that mean we are getting 50% of Origins just to hear Hawke, or do they have a much higher budget so that is no longer going to play, or was that just a 'Just tell them something to shut them up' dealio.

Like I said, I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet but I'm not burning them at the stake quite yet either. Thinking it perhaps.

I'm still wondering what that thing is. Its probably one huge expansion for DAO to lead into DA2.

One last "Hurrah!"

They did confirm there would be another expanion for DA:O so who really knows at this point.

[LPPrince]

Tooneyman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Swoo wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Do we really need ANOTHER thread on the same subject? We've got like 20 up right now, its insane.

I'm glad you made a good post, but this is probably just going to attract more hate from people who feel miffed about DA2 not being DAO2.

Actually Bioware just might make another DA:O 2. If enough people get behind the idea. Just it will be called DA:O 2. Not  DA 2. IT just seems like two different subjects.

I highly doubt that, but you never know. Still, I HIGHLY, VERY VERY HIGHLY, doubt that will ever happen.

Nope. I'm positive it will never happen.

They've confirmed that 2-11 is still a Dragon Age product of some sort (I forget who posted it, I'll dig for Brock's quote of the quote), and according to their company information whatever it is is set for multiple gaming platforms, while DA2 is what...five weeks after that date?

One of my largest worries right now is they came out and said that if they used a player voice in Origins, they would have had to cut the rest of the dialogue in half and that the DLC would have suffered just the same. Now I'm wondering does that mean we are getting 50% of Origins just to hear Hawke, or do they have a much higher budget so that is no longer going to play, or was that just a 'Just tell them something to shut them up' dealio.

Like I said, I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet but I'm not burning them at the stake quite yet either. Thinking it perhaps.

I'm still wondering what that thing is. Its probably one huge expansion for DAO to lead into DA2.

One last "Hurrah!"

They did confirm there would be another expanion for DA:O so who really knows at this point.

I'm calling it then. The February release is DAO's last expansion, which is a lead in to DA2.

OR The end of the Warden.

Modifié par LPPrince, 12 juillet 2010 - 07:12 .

[DeadInHell]

Not to mention the fact that people seem to be assuming that the "Origins" part of the first game is a feature inherent in the entire Dragon Age series. There's a reason the first Dragon Age game was subtitled Origins. It's a feature particular to that game. This new game is not Dragon Age: Origins 2. There is no reason that they should be constrained to employing the same feature in every game they create in this universe, especially if they are trying to create something particular in terms of the narrative of Dragon Age 2.

[Swoo]

"I'm calling it then. The February release is DAO's last expansion, which is a lead in to DA2.



OR The end of the Warden."



That's my thought as well seeing as how Gaider said not to write off the Warden quite yet.



"Not to mention the fact that people seem to be assuming that the "Origins" part of the first game is a feature inherent in the entire Dragon Age series."



Oh no, that shouldn't have taken anyone by surprise. They said very clearly that the multiple origins was gone after DAO. What they didn't say was how they would straight-jacket the character generation. Knocking out Elves and Dwarves quite frankly blindsided me. On it's own it's not enough to make me say 'Pah, F this game', but it's just one of those little marks I've commented about that doesn't have me super jazzed for now.



A few new reveals next week, so plenty of information to go one way or the other.

[mllrthyme]

17thknight wrote...

mllrthyme wrote...

Even Baldurs Gate changed from BGI to BGII.

Not even remotely as drastic as the changes from DA:O to DA2.

For instance, in Badlur's Gate 2, you had MORE customization options, not less. 
BG2 improved on BG1, it didn't throw out everything good from BG1 and try to rewrite the game using elements from a different RPG altogether.

The only changes that we know for certain is the dialogue wheel, Vo for the PC, no choice of race other than human (which,  yeah, kinda sucks), and changes to combat.  Let me know if I missed anything.  I'm not saying that these changes are good or bad, frankly I have no idea yet, they're just changes.  I'm okay with that because I think keeping everything the same would result in stagnation.

[LPPrince]

If The Warden has a canon death in the last expansion, I would totally salute Bioware for giving the Warden an emotional end.

[NKKKK]

LPPrince wrote...

If The Warden has a canon death in the last expansion, I would totally salute Bioware for giving the Warden an emotional end.

That would be controversial.

[LPPrince]

NKKKK wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

If The Warden has a canon death in the last expansion, I would totally salute Bioware for giving the Warden an emotional end.

That would be controversial.

CCC.

Controversy creates cash.

[Riona45]

Arttis wrote...

Only good for people who were not there at the start.

...Unless they were.

[Riona45]

NKKKK wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

If The Warden has a canon death in the last expansion, I would totally salute Bioware for giving the Warden an emotional end.

That would be controversial.

LOL yeah, watch the uproar all over again if they did that.

[17thknight]

LPPrince wrote...

If The Warden has a canon death in the last expansion, I would totally salute Bioware for giving the Warden an emotional end.

And I would give them the finger for ruining the game for everyone who didn't take that path.

[Arttis]

Pocketgb wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Only good for people who were not there at the start.

I was there when it was announced and I'm excited about DA2.

More people need to start speaking for themselves.

Rawr I have earliest join date!

[Kaiser Shepard]

The US ending should've been acknowledged in the expansion, if not made canon, not the other way around.

[mllrthyme]

[Rawr I have earliest join date!

[/quote]

You stud!

[LPPrince]

17thknight wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

If The Warden has a canon death in the last expansion, I would totally salute Bioware for giving the Warden an emotional end.

And I would give them the finger for ruining the game for everyone who didn't take that path.

To each his/her own.

[TSamee]

Frankly, I'm really psyched for this. Sure, I have my worries, but I'm not mad at BioWare for removing my PC. I find that some things are fundementally wrong with the Mass Effect-style RPG template, and that DA2 could fix that.



1) Shepard was an attempt to make a fully-voiced character your own, an attempt to make a third-person protagonist part of a first-person narrative. While it sort of worked, it never ultimately felt like he was your character; he was still Shepard. However, BioWare seem to be going the other way with DA2. Hawke, as shown by their choice to limit his/her race and by some comments from Gaider, is his own character. He has his own backstory, his own past, his own traits. Sure, you can customise his looks and gender, but he should still be deep and meaningful, not just "the PC", or a Shepard-esque "almost the PC". I think that's why they made him human; different races have different traits based on their culture, Hawke's personality and emotions are designed to work with a human, so he's a human.



2) I'm actually looking forward to the ME wheel. Because DA2 doesn't have a Paragon/Renegade-style morality meter, it could simply be a way of limiting the player's responses to accomodate the VA. So we'd still have our moral grey areas (and not just a good/bad choice, as in ME), but with a fully-voiced protagonist.



3) I personally found that DA1's combat didn't work on a gamepad. Having played on PC and xbox, it felt much more natural on the PC, and more tacked-on on consoles. BioWare have already said that there wouldn't be many changes to the PC's combat, so that should keep those who loved DA1's system happy. If God of War with stats and loot feels more fun on a console, then bring it on.

[Tooneyman]

This goes back to the face like someone posted earlier that DA:O was start as is stated. This is why the pondering and statement of this thread is exactly on par.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

If they release a final expansion for Origins (especially one ending the Warden's quest--tying up all loose ends), I wouldn't care if Hawke was a mandatory bearded dude in a dress because I would still buy DA: 2. In the end, I just want closure for my warden, and get something that would finally redeem BioWare for such a crappy expansion Awakening was (still sitting in my hardrive waiting for a patch...). I would transition with much more ease, if BioWare released a really good expansion. I want Morrigan, and not Oghren; although, Orghren was cool in Origins--not in Awakening.

[LPPrince]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

If they release a final expansion for Origins (especially one ending the Warden's quest--tying up all loose ends), I wouldn't care if Hawke was a mandatory bearded dude in a dress because I would still buy DA: 2. In the end, I just want closure for my warden, and get something that would finally redeem BioWare for such a crappy expansion Awakening was (still sitting in my hardrive waiting for a patch...). I would transition with much more ease, if BioWare released a really good expansion. I want Morrigan, and not Oghren; although, Orghren was cool in Origins--not in Awakening.

I think as long as people got closure for the Warden, there wouldn't be..........nah, people would still hate.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

LPPrince wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

If they release a final expansion for Origins (especially one ending the Warden's quest--tying up all loose ends), I wouldn't care if Hawke was a mandatory bearded dude in a dress because I would still buy DA: 2. In the end, I just want closure for my warden, and get something that would finally redeem BioWare for such a crappy expansion Awakening was (still sitting in my hardrive waiting for a patch...). I would transition with much more ease, if BioWare released a really good expansion. I want Morrigan, and not Oghren; although, Orghren was cool in Origins--not in Awakening.

I think as long as people got closure for the Warden, there wouldn't be..........nah, people would still hate.

I think that might be the main concern, though because I hear a lot of people wanting DA: 2 to be DAO:2. I think people would feel more like DA: 2 will be a new game/experience only if our Warden's loose ends were tied. As for the hate, there will always be hate thrown around. What planet are you from, have you never visited a forum?

[spottyblanket]

I like new ideas. It shows the company is thinking of ways to improve the gaming experience. I'd much rather that then them churning out the same formula again and again just because it sells.

[soteria]

I think the main problem is that Awakening was so crappy in terms of continuing/finishing your warden's story. None of your DA:O choices really mattered for Awakening, either.

[Ailith Tycane]

Dragon Age was a good game, but I still think it needed a lot of adjustments.



There's nothing wrong with them changing a few things up from the first game, thats how sequels work.

[silentStatic]

2) I'm actually looking
forward to the ME wheel. Because DA2 doesn't have a
Paragon/Renegade-style morality meter, it could simply be a way of
limiting the player's responses to accomodate the VA. So we'd still
have our moral grey areas (and not just a good/bad choice, as in ME),
but with a fully-voiced protagonist.

My biggest concern with the Hawke being voiced (apart from the dread that Hawke
will have a aggressive attitude ala Shephard - though there are hints
that this is not the case) is exactly that the conversation wheel
will limit the players response to accommodate the VA - instead of
the game accommodating the player.

I like new
ideas. It shows the company is thinking of ways to improve the gaming
experience. I'd much rather that then them churning out the same
formula again and again just because it sells.

You know what, you might have a point there. The 10 years bit sounds
interesting, even if we are using a conversation/flashback as a
framing device. Having the story be small bits that have more
distinct medium goals (undoubtedly with a long term main goal down
the line) would be interesting - together with a feeling that things
are changing around you.

All of the above is of course my own personal opinions, and hey, its just a video game

Modifié par silentStatic, 12 juillet 2010 - 11:30 .