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DanteCousland

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Yes I states that there your choices before...

My Hawke is going to be like dante cousland...A ruthless sadistic warrior.

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Hawke is currently a maybe bastard after all maric slept with flemeth and we have no idea where the child went.

Seems he was given away.

SO it also seems like we know why flemeth helped the kid run from lothering.

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Was it confirmed that Maric and Flemeth slept together. I've never read the books. Just had friends who have.

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Arttis wrote...

Hawke is currently a maybe bastard after all Maric slept with Flemeth and we have no idea where the child went.
Seems he was given away.

Wouldn't it be more likely said child is Morrigan.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

I prefer the idea of a penniless nobody rising to power through the strength of his will, rather than because he has some kind of regal birthright. If it does turn out that Hawke has special lineage, I'd rather it be supernatural in origin rather than noble.

Agreed. I see Hawke, currently, very much in the Conan sort of mold. A "king/queen by his/her own hand".

DanteCousland wrote...

Was it confirmed that Maric and Flemeth slept together. I've never read the books. Just had friends who have.

No, though it's possible. He spends a considerable length of time in her hut and when he emerges he's super-shaken. I liked the idea more before I actually read the book and realised that the Flemeth Maric encounters isn't "young and beautiful" ala Morrigan but, in fact, an old crone like she is in the game. :P

I'm superficial, that way.

Modifié par Ulicus, 12 juillet 2010 - 04:16 .


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DanteCousland

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GodWood wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Hawke is currently a maybe bastard after all Maric slept with Flemeth and we have no idea where the child went.
Seems he was given away.

Wouldn't it be more likely said child is Morrigan.

If you romance Morrigan and ask her about her family she says Flemeth isnt her real mother but more so somebody who raised her and who she grew to love.

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Interesting ideas, but you know I prefer that Hawke like Conan carves out his or her own legacy by the might of his or her sword or spell.

Modifié par Eludajae, 12 juillet 2010 - 04:15 .


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Well she says she "Doubts" Flemeth is her real mother. I hope she is because htat means Now dante and Morrigans child has a claim (A pretty poor claim) but a claim to the throne as that would mean Morrigan would be Marics Bastard and Dante and Morrigans child thus a Bastards child.

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DanteCousland wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Arttis wrote...
Hawke is currently a maybe bastard after all Maric slept with Flemeth and we have no idea where the child went.
Seems he was given away.

Wouldn't it be more likely said child is Morrigan.

If you romance Morrigan and ask her about her family she says Flemeth isnt her real mother but more so somebody who raised her and who she grew to love.

She speculates that Flemeth might not be her biological mother and its possible she was stolen as a babe.
She doesn't actually know.

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Check the post above your previous one, I corrected it. conan was very strong and at the age of 15 he won a tremendous victory. All we know of Hawkes start is that he fled ferelden during the Blight. Very different starts and so thus I think they'll go for him having noble parents or something (or one of them being so...or maybe just being powerful) rather than him just being a hero because hes kickass with a blade or bow or magic (although Im sure he will be).

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GodWood wrote...

DanteCousland wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Arttis wrote...
Hawke is currently a maybe bastard after all Maric slept with Flemeth and we have no idea where the child went.
Seems he was given away.

Wouldn't it be more likely said child is Morrigan.

If you romance Morrigan and ask her about her family she says Flemeth isnt her real mother but more so somebody who raised her and who she grew to love.

She speculates that Flemeth might not be her biological mother and its possible she was stolen as a babe.
She doesn't actually know.

Given Flemeth (supposedly) raises daughters only to possess them, both might be true from a certain point of view. For all we know, Flemeth might wait until after her daughters have given birth before she takes control of their body. So we end up with a situation where Flemeth both is and is not Morrigan's biological mother. :whistle:

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DanteCousland wrote...
Check the post above your previous one, I corrected it.

Ah.

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DanteCousland

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Ulicus wrote...

GodWood wrote...

DanteCousland wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Arttis wrote...
Hawke is currently a maybe bastard after all Maric slept with Flemeth and we have no idea where the child went.
Seems he was given away.

Wouldn't it be more likely said child is Morrigan.

If you romance Morrigan and ask her about her family she says Flemeth isnt her real mother but more so somebody who raised her and who she grew to love.

She speculates that Flemeth might not be her biological mother and its possible she was stolen as a babe.
She doesn't actually know.

Given Flemeth (supposedly) raises daughters only to possess them, both might be true from a certain point of view. For all we know, Flemeth might wait until after her daughters have given birth before she takes control of their body. So we end up with a situation where Flemeth both is and is not Morrigan's biological mother. :whistle:

thats messed up there. Does anyone else think that regardless of your efforts to thwart her (if any) Flemeth will still end up possesing Morrigan?. Its a very interesting plot twist.

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Yeah I am pretty sure Flemeth will posses Morrigan or her daughter one way or another.

You don't kill an acient evil like Flemeth as easy as you did in DA:O, at least I don't think you do.

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Thanks for ruining The Stolen Throne for me.

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Drasill wrote...

Thanks for ruining The Stolen Throne for me.

Maric and Loghain win at the end, too.

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Risax wrote...

Yeah I am pretty sure Flemeth will posses Morrigan or her daughter one way or another.
You don't kill an acient evil like Flemeth as easy as you did in DA:O, at least I don't think you do.


I killed her but even then Morrigan says she doubts Flemeth is really dead, you've just delayed her.

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where does she go. To the fade or what. well I don't know but where do you think she goes?

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I found fighting her surprisingly easy to be honest. I just tanked her with Sten Ogrhen and dog (im a dual wielding warrior) and we just kept on notching her health down. I kind of suspected she'd be back anyway.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

Risax wrote...

Yeah I am pretty sure Flemeth will posses Morrigan or her daughter one way or another.
You don't kill an acient evil like Flemeth as easy as you did in DA:O, at least I don't think you do.


I killed her but even then Morrigan says she doubts Flemeth is really dead, you've just delayed her.

Yeah that's what I meant, should've been clearer sorry.

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Hawke's mother is the Revered Mother in Lothering.

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Drasill wrote...

Thanks for ruining The Stolen Throne for me.


You knew that the Titanic was going to sink, yet you watched the movie anyway.

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Fade is the obvious place. As we don´t know what kind of being she pacted with, devs are the only ones who know whatever is happening. My hope is "softening" Morrigan made her unsuitable for possession. Flemeth raised her as Stupid Evil for something I think.

Hawke a bastard? Don´t know even if that does matter that much in Ferelden or Free Marches, but Alistair didn´t have that much a happy childhood and Eamon was supposed to be one of the good guys. It doesn´t seem to be the big deal from ASoF&I.

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its such a beautiful concept though. The old god child and the possesion of mother of daughter. I mean I always thought Morrigan might posses the old god child just as flemeth tried to posses her.

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That could be a silly theory what I jsut said but it just seemed like something Morrigan would do, she was obviously very clever.