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[Majin Paul]

Tooneyman wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I think most of the people that are getting angry have heard about the whole single race and vioced character and assuming that there's not much more for them to customise, I think Bioware should release character customisation news as soon as they can so that the fans calm down and (hopefully) start to get excited about the game.
I don't understand why people are getting annoyed about race myself, even included it either would limit you or not make sense after they explained that Hawke was a survivor of Lothering, if you were a Dwarf, you'd most likely have to be a trader and you'd be casteless, being an Elf wouldn't make sense because the non-dalish elves only live in cities where they can be protected can't they?
And Qunarri wouldn't make sense either because the codex entry on Sten (I think it's Sten, not the entry for Lothering) that says he is the strangest thing the people of Lothering have seen.

Actually there were elves in Lothering! HERE!

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Lothering

Look under the characters and You will see trapped family they were elves! OWNED!

Fair enough, I forget about them, but if they had included Elves, it would still have limited you to city elves (unless I'm forgetting any Dalish Elves if there were any.)

[AlexXIV]

TheMufflon wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

different = bad

You humans are all racist.

Yeah ... my next vacation I'm picking another planet. Maybe Uranus.

[Tooneyman]

AlexXIV wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

different = bad

You humans are all racist.

Yeah ... my next vacation I'm picking another planet. Maybe Uranus.

 
Scanning probe

[Tooneyman]

Majin Paul wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I think most of the people that are getting angry have heard about the whole single race and vioced character and assuming that there's not much more for them to customise, I think Bioware should release character customisation news as soon as they can so that the fans calm down and (hopefully) start to get excited about the game.
I don't understand why people are getting annoyed about race myself, even included it either would limit you or not make sense after they explained that Hawke was a survivor of Lothering, if you were a Dwarf, you'd most likely have to be a trader and you'd be casteless, being an Elf wouldn't make sense because the non-dalish elves only live in cities where they can be protected can't they?
And Qunarri wouldn't make sense either because the codex entry on Sten (I think it's Sten, not the entry for Lothering) that says he is the strangest thing the people of Lothering have seen.

Actually there were elves in Lothering! HERE!

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Lothering

Look under the characters and You will see trapped family they were elves! OWNED!

Fair enough, I forget about them, but if they had included Elves, it would still have limited you to city elves (unless I'm forgetting any Dalish Elves if there were any.)

No dalish plus the dalish story was crap. City elves good enough for me.

[Majin Paul]

Tooneyman wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I think most of the people that are getting angry have heard about the whole single race and vioced character and assuming that there's not much more for them to customise, I think Bioware should release character customisation news as soon as they can so that the fans calm down and (hopefully) start to get excited about the game.
I don't understand why people are getting annoyed about race myself, even included it either would limit you or not make sense after they explained that Hawke was a survivor of Lothering, if you were a Dwarf, you'd most likely have to be a trader and you'd be casteless, being an Elf wouldn't make sense because the non-dalish elves only live in cities where they can be protected can't they?
And Qunarri wouldn't make sense either because the codex entry on Sten (I think it's Sten, not the entry for Lothering) that says he is the strangest thing the people of Lothering have seen.

Actually there were elves in Lothering! HERE!

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Lothering

Look under the characters and You will see trapped family they were elves! OWNED!

Fair enough, I forget about them, but if they had included Elves, it would still have limited you to city elves (unless I'm forgetting any Dalish Elves if there were any.)

No dalish plus the dalish story was crap. City elves good enough for me.

I only played the Noble Human origin so I don't know if they were good or bad so I'll trust you on that. My point though, is that if Bioware gave people the option of races, they'd still have less options or it wouldn't make sense. I'd rather just have a human option which makes sense rather than an equal amount of amounts, half of  which may not make sense.
 

[thenemesis77]

He has taken my Warden's place so I will always hold that on his head, even if I play the game, can't say will care much what happens to this guy, but it's all about him now...blah.

[thenemesis77]

If there is a option to kill this character I will do so, I hope I can make him jump off a mountain and make him choke on beans. LOL, thats would be a great ending to DA2.

[Wishpig]

thenemesis77 wrote...

He has taken my Warden's place so I will always hold that on his head, even if I play the game, can't say will care much what happens to this guy, but it's all about him now...blah.

Move on... such was always bioware's plan. They made it clear future dragon age sequels wouldn't carry the same main character like ME1 to ME2.

Besides after spending well over 100 hours with the Warden I want to move on. Infact, I'm pretty bored with the whole Warden thing.

[Chibi Elemental]

thenemesis77 wrote...

He has taken my Warden's place so I will always hold that on his head, even if I play the game, can't say will care much what happens to this guy, but it's all about him now...blah.

Actually they plan on having more after da with probably a different char again for da3

Dragon age is about the world not just one character, gaider has said this in multiple threads and I am not digging them up you can search for them

I am going to be laughing when DA3 comes out and its yet another char and people are going to be like Where is mah hawke ;-; I can taiste the tasty tears already.

[Bryy_Miller]

thenemesis77 wrote...

If there is a option to kill this character I will do so, I hope I can make him jump off a mountain and make him choke on beans. LOL, thats would be a great ending to DA2.

.... why?

[DespiertaLosNinos]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

If there is a option to kill this character I will do so, I hope I can make him jump off a mountain and make him choke on beans. LOL, thats would be a great ending to DA2.

.... why?

because he is a cry baby that didn't get his way and now he moved to the temper tantrum phase 

[Highdragonslayer]

Hawkes wouldn't be able to survive the zerg swarm

[Zalocx]

Majin Paul wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I think most of the people that are getting angry have heard about the whole single race and vioced character and assuming that there's not much more for them to customise, I think Bioware should release character customisation news as soon as they can so that the fans calm down and (hopefully) start to get excited about the game.
I don't understand why people are getting annoyed about race myself, even included it either would limit you or not make sense after they explained that Hawke was a survivor of Lothering, if you were a Dwarf, you'd most likely have to be a trader and you'd be casteless, being an Elf wouldn't make sense because the non-dalish elves only live in cities where they can be protected can't they?
And Qunarri wouldn't make sense either because the codex entry on Sten (I think it's Sten, not the entry for Lothering) that says he is the strangest thing the people of Lothering have seen.

Actually there were elves in Lothering! HERE!

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Lothering

Look under the characters and You will see trapped family they were elves! OWNED!

Fair enough, I forget about them, but if they had included Elves, it would still have limited you to city elves (unless I'm forgetting any Dalish Elves if there were any.)

Those elves were refugees who were stuck because they got robbed, they didn't LIVE in Lothering, while Hawke is said to be FROM Lothering

[ozenglish]

Considering David and Mary are two of the people writing the DA series, SHOULD mean that we are not going to see another Shepherd. I have been thinking about this during my run around the forums, and may actually be getting a bit optimistic about it. Sure, it wasn't what I was hoping for as beind DA:2, but, then again, I think it means that I am not going to be bummed out if this thing my character did that I thought was important, wasn't mentioned in the story. So yeah, having the hero/ine designated as main character, you can be sure that there is going to be a bit more interesting dialogue.

[Khavos]

aries1001 wrote...

If we go back 12 years or so, to the release of Baldur's Gate (the first one), you had a fixed protagonist as well. There was only one origin story (you'd grown up in Candlekeep) - and then stuff happened.

Which is why I always prefered Icewind Dale to Baldur's Gate.  

Black Isle/Obsidian makes good RPGs.  Bioware makes good JRPGs. 

[DespiertaLosNinos]

Khavos wrote...

aries1001 wrote...

If we go back 12 years or so, to the release of Baldur's Gate (the first one), you had a fixed protagonist as well. There was only one origin story (you'd grown up in Candlekeep) - and then stuff happened.

Which is why I always prefered Icewind Dale to Baldur's Gate.  

Black Isle/Obsidian makes good RPGs.  Bioware makes good JRPGs. 

Doesn't a JRPG by definition have to come from a Japanese studio? Or have I just totally lost my grip on reality?

[Bryy_Miller]

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

Khavos wrote...

aries1001 wrote...

If we go back 12 years or so, to the release of Baldur's Gate (the first one), you had a fixed protagonist as well. There was only one origin story (you'd grown up in Candlekeep) - and then stuff happened.

Which is why I always prefered Icewind Dale to Baldur's Gate.  

Black Isle/Obsidian makes good RPGs.  Bioware makes good JRPGs. 

Doesn't a JRPG by definition have to come from a Japanese studio? Or have I just totally lost my grip on reality?

No, it's just that in today's generation of instant communication/information and self-entitlement, people can use whatever definition they want for whatever they want.

[Khavos]

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

Doesn't a JRPG by definition have to come from a Japanese studio? Or have I just totally lost my grip on reality?

The Wikipedia gods tell me this:

"Due to cultural differences between game developers, historically different inspirations, origins and distinct target audiences, two main trends of role-playing video games exist: the Western RPG (WRPG) and the Japanese RPG (JRPG) or Eastern RPG; the latter of which was heavily influenced by the Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy games.  JRPGs usually tend to place a greater emphasis on tightly orchestrated, linear narratives, whereas Western RPGS usually tend to focus more on open-ended, non-linear gameplay.  Most JRPG plots tend to use linear storylines and reuse similar formulas and archetypes, and they focus more on scripted cut scenes and dialogue.  However, they are not considered to be true role-playing games as there is generally not branching outcomes and instead the term is used because they are derived from the more open-ended role-playing games.  In contrast, most WRPGs have more non-linear exploration and story development as well as greater control of the player character's development, both of which come at the price of more generic dialogue and less focus on essential gameplay, specifically the battle system."

Bold part sounds about right for a Bioware game.  I don't think it's a stretch to suggest they're going to end up having more in common with JRPG developers than traditional Western RPG developers if they keep going down this "VO dialogue and ossum story > player control" path. 

Modifié par Khavos, 13 juillet 2010 - 03:59 .

[joriandrake]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Don't worry...
Check this forum after a couple of months from the release of the game and then you'll see it full of topics like "Hawke in DA3" and "Please Bioware let us keep Hawke for DA3"
People change opinion so quickly...

You're wrong.

It'll be, "Hawke in ME3" and "Hawke as Squadmate/LI in ME3". Think broader.

Shepard
Wrex
Shepard
Hawke
Wrex?
Shepard?
Hawke?

[wwwwowwww]

People just want something to b**** about

[Foolsfolly]

I got as far as voice acting being controversial.

Surely, I wasn't the only person who saw we got to pick out voice in Dragon Age: Origins and was disappointed when there was no speaking, just grunts and war cries.

Modifié par Foolsfolly, 13 juillet 2010 - 04:11 .

[yummysoap]

People hate Hawke because he's not the Warden.



I don't know what they were expecting the Warden to get up to, though, considering there's, like, a dozen of different endings for him/her and none of them would provide enough material for a new game, unless they wanted to do something like with Awakening which is just "Hey dude I know you specically chose your own epilogue but there are still some darkspawn around and they can talk", in which case it may as well be a new character altogether for all the relevance it would have to DA:O.

[DespiertaLosNinos]

Khavos wrote...
The Wikipedia gods tell me this:

Bold part sounds about right for a Bioware game.  I don't think it's a stretch to suggest they're going to end up having more in common with JRPG developers than traditional Western RPG developers if they keep going down this "VO dialogue and ossum story > player control" path. 

Ah Wikipedia, the Holy Grail of reliable information.  You say it has more in common with it but it would still not be a JRPG.  My issue M4 and 16A4 has a lot in common with the G36 but it would be a far stretch to say that then they ARE G36s.  But hey, I really couldn't care what label is thrown on a piece of entertainment so long as I find it enjoyable....so mislabel away.

[joriandrake]

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

Khavos wrote...
The Wikipedia gods tell me this:

Bold part sounds about right for a Bioware game.  I don't think it's a stretch to suggest they're going to end up having more in common with JRPG developers than traditional Western RPG developers if they keep going down this "VO dialogue and ossum story > player control" path. 

Ah Wikipedia, the Holy Grail of reliable information. //snip

ROFL

[Valente11]

I'm just glad the whole darkspawn thing is over with. There was never anybody who said that the Dragon Age PC was meant to be carried over, so I have no problem with leaving my warden in his much deserved tomb. I get so bored with these forums, all the complaints are so predictible, so naive, so...uninformed.