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[ComTrav]

Bah, I tried to fight Cautherine (and her 10-12 Archers and backup mages). I wanted that Summersword! And when she showed up again, I immediately went with, "Let's see what you can do with that thing." (I was a 2h warrior as well, and there can only be one highlander!)



Was going to get them married (after my dwarf romanced Morrigan, Leliana, visited the brothel, slept with both noble hunters in the origin story, had a threesome with Zevran/Duelist chick, etc., I felt kinda obligated to set Alistair up with a nice girl....)



But talking with Alistair, what he liked most in his life was the Wardens. Even when asked why he would be a good king he talks about fighting Darkspawn. The Wardens are where he belongs. Was planning on having him be the one to live--he's the one to rebuild the Ferelden warden's--but I took Morrigan up on her interesting proposition. (And, like everything with Morrigan, it sounded like it might end badly, but I had to see how it would play out. Isn't the danger part of the appeal? =))



Anora comes off differently depending on your choices. If you're bent on recruiting Loghain she orders Alistair's death (and you can tell her not to.) If you simply pick her she just asks Alistair to renounce his claim in front of the Landsmeet (which he does, happily--provided Loghain is dead.)

[Never]

qioden wrote...

i agree
her betrayal after the rescue is what i think one of the most shocking moment of the game... i kept wonder why in the world would she such a thing...

i know right! she seemed much cooler in the cutscenes before we actually met her.

[Seraglio79]

Alistair and I got thrown in the prison after losing our fight with Cautherine. We escaped, I told Anora I would support her as queen. Went to Landsmeet, Alistair dueled Loghain and killed him. He renounced his title, even though I was sorely tempted to be queen!



I refused Morrigan's offer. I'm now in the final battle scene and Riordan just freakin' fell off the back of the dragon to his death (I assume). I'm pissed! Does this mean either myself or Alistair have to die? I want my happy ending! Can I still get it, or should I reload and accept Morrigan's offer? Will Alistair still respect me in the morning?

[Seraglio79]

How very distressing.

[Red Viking]

I think Anora's actions largely depends on your decisions in game.  She never betrayed me nor showed any hint of being a collosal ****.  Then again, I was nice to her and worked out a comprimise that let her keep power.

AirWonderCross wrote...

What happens if you let Anora and Alistair marry and let them take the throne?

Anora continues to rule like she did throughout the entire game and Alistair becomes positive PR.

Seraglio79 wrote...

I refused Morrigan's offer. I'm now
in the final battle scene and Riordan just freakin' fell off the back
of the dragon to his death (I assume). I'm pissed! Does this mean
either myself or Alistair have to die? I want my happy ending! Can I
still get it, or should I reload and accept Morrigan's offer? Will
Alistair still respect me in the morning?

The bad news is that you won't get a good ending.  If you want your happily ever after, you have to convince Alistair to sleep with Morrigan.

[TuringPoint]

I hated Queen Anora from the perspective of a female alienage elf.  

When I was a human noble I averted her betrayal by being politically on top of things - arranging to marry her, offering my support of her in return.  She is a political creature, which people too often mistrust, especially in a woman ruler.  

I married Queen Anora and became her consort. Best ending ever.  What I'm noticing here is that:  my character becomes a helper for her ruling, and Queen Anora does some good things for the country.  Alistair is defined as being a good and just king or a figurehead of sorts, but it never mentions him making any progress for the country in the epilogue.

I hope to see more of her character in the future.

Modifié par Alocormin, 17 novembre 2009 - 12:23 .

[SeanMurphy2]

["If you're romancing Alistair and don't accept Morrigan's offer, Alistair will kill himself every single time to save you. It happened even after I made him king and he dumped my elf mage. I was trying to get the ending where I sacrifice myself, but he wouldn't let me, and then I was left a quivering sobbing mass. God damn Alistair, you break my heart and then you break it again]



Can you leave him behind to defend the gate?



I can understand why they designed it that way. If someone is in a relationship with him, then they would feel guilty choosing him to die in your place. So instead the decision is out of your hands.

[Walina]

If you're romancing Alistair and don't accept Morrigan's offer,
Alistair will kill himself every single time to save you. It happened
even after I made him king and he dumped my elf mage. I was trying to
get the ending where I sacrifice myself, but he wouldn't let me, and
then I was left a quivering sobbing mass. God damn Alistair, you break
my heart and then you break it again.

Tha's really heart breaking, I don't want that!

[Mudzr]

Wait, i'm unsure of the choices.

I had them marry, but when the time came, they didn't want to.

And I couldn't bring myself to kill Loghain.

So do you have to toughen Alistair up so he marries Anora and then everyone lives and is happy?

I'm playing as a female this time around, so does Alistair still run off if I choose Loghain?

[Eshaye]

Tassiaw wrote...

Anora is a terrible person who orders Alistair's execution as soon as she takes the throne.

Heh? I promised Anora the throne made her Queen and she never tried to kill Alistair, she just asks him to denounce the throne for himself and any future heirs of his. Alistair also fights and kills Loghain in my game...

 

I chose Anora because I didn't want to lose Alistair to the throne for one, for two she seemed like a much better choice; she wants to rule, she's young enough to learn and be tempered, and she's young enough to want to change things. She frees the circle of magi at my request... Alistair if I put him on the throne instead he doesn't know what to do with Anora... Which to me indicates too much indecision for him to be a great king, he may be good at it but like Maric he would be too easy to manipulate, and like Maric being king would make him miserable.

Modifié par Eshaye, 18 novembre 2009 - 02:23 .

[WuWeiWu]

qioden wrote...

i agree
her betrayal after the rescue is what i think one of the most shocking moment of the game... i kept wonder why in the world would she such a thing...

She did it to save herself. Cauthreine (sp) is her father's right hand woman, if Anora had told her that her father was a madman and was trying to have her killed/locked away, Cauthreine would kill us and then take her straight to Loghain... and who knows what he would do seeing his daughter betray him, and ultimately his country. Remember, Loghain believed that King Cailin betrayed his country, and we all know what happened to him.

It was not only the practical or pragmatic thing to do, but prudent.

[asaiasai]

The choices i have made in my previous playthroughs has more to do with knocking out the achievments, but as an over all preference i usually pick Anora to rule alone, she wants it Allister does not, or if hardened still would prefer to not be king i go with that. It simplifyies the decision and as much respect as i have for Eamon his disappointment is Allister's fault not my own.



Asai

[Lumenadducere]

Those of you who wanted them to marry but couldn't get them to (even after they said they would), did Alistair kill Loghain? Anora won't marry whoever killed her father, so if you want Loghain dead then you have to be the one to land the death blow.

[crono_clone]

My mage wants to rescue Anora from her tower.....by Blood-Controlling her out the window. Dirty conniving *&%#....

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

She betrays you when escaping if you give up her cover which she asked you not to do. If you don't go hey there is Anora she won't say anything about you kidnapping her, or if at Eamon's estate you tell her your going to make Alistair king no matter what and kill her father then she will betray you at the Landsmeet.



I like Anora she is one of my more favorite NPCs. She is has proven to be a great Queen even the Empress of Orlais said she was the best Fereldon had to offer. I always keep her on the throne she is proven, intelligent, ambitious and reasonable, but you can't control her like Alistair. I either let her rule solo, and let Alistair continue being a Grey Warden, or I wed her let Alistair stay a Grey Warden. Though I am considering wedding her and Alistair, but I really don't want to hook my man Alistair up with her I don't think he is ready yet for a women like Anora, but I read the epilogue and it says they do quite well together.

[errant_knight]

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

She betrays you when escaping if you give up her cover which she asked you not to do. If you don't go hey there is Anora she won't say anything about you kidnapping her, or if at Eamon's estate you tell her your going to make Alistair king no matter what and kill her father then she will betray you at the Landsmeet.

I like Anora she is one of my more favorite NPCs. She is has proven to be a great Queen even the Empress of Orlais said she was the best Fereldon had to offer. I always keep her on the throne she is proven, intelligent, ambitious and reasonable, but you can't control her like Alistair. I either let her rule solo, and let Alistair continue being a Grey Warden, or I wed her let Alistair stay a Grey Warden. Though I am considering wedding her and Alistair, but I really don't want to hook my man Alistair up with her I don't think he is ready yet for a women like Anora, but I read the epilogue and it says they do quite well together.

I think it's more accurate to say that the kingdom does well. He accepts it to varying degrees, but isn't what you'd call happy. And don't even think about it if he's unhardened.

[UpiH]

errant_knight wrote...

I think it's more accurate to say that the kingdom does well. He accepts it to varying degrees, but isn't what you'd call happy. And don't even think about it if he's unhardened.

Have you ever played a male character, who respects Anora as a human being and a queen? I've had pretty happy endings with HNM or even Alistair married to her, Loghain saved and alive and well in the aftermath. At least as good for an ending card as they can get.

I don't play with the toolset, though, and it's been awhile. *shrug*

Modifié par UpiH, 15 juin 2010 - 03:20 .

[errant_knight]

Hanz54321 wrote...

Mudzr wrote...

Wait, i'm unsure of the choices.
I had them marry, but when the time came, they didn't want to.
And I couldn't bring myself to kill Loghain.
So do you have to toughen Alistair up so he marries Anora and then everyone lives and is happy?
I'm playing as a female this time around, so does Alistair still run off if I choose Loghain?

They always object to marrying.  Take Loghain and force them to marry anyway.  Toughening Alistair helps.  They both always sound more irrate than their relationship turns out to be long term.  Don't let Anora and Alistair's complaining sway you.  Be hardened yourself.

Personally, I would never do it, to either of them. Both are good rulers on their own (or with the PC), and I wouldn't want to marry Alistair to a woman who will never love him, when that's all he really wants, or marry Anora to a man whom she disrespects, and who looks much like her dead husband and only childhood friend.

Modifié par errant_knight, 15 juin 2010 - 03:23 .

[Addai]

Hanz54321 wrote...

On my canon character:  I harden Alistair up, convince he and Anora to marry, take Loghain into the wardens, let Loghain die a hero in the eyes of his daughter, die a criminal in the eyes of Alistair, both parties are happy and the epilogue states they actually become an excellent ruling pair.

Best outcome for all parties.

A loveless marriage among the ruling pair has its disadvantages.  If Maric and Cailan had been allowed to marry for love rather than political reasons, Ferelden might not have had the heir crisis that it has had.

[asaiasai]

asaiasai wrote...

The choices i have made in my previous playthroughs has more to do with knocking out the achievments, but as an over all preference i usually pick Anora to rule alone, she wants it Allister does not, or if hardened still would prefer to not be king i go with that. It simplifyies the decision and as much respect as i have for Eamon his disappointment is Allister's fault not my own.

Asai

Can you still smell the ozone from the shock paddles to revive this necro thread?  Seriously no harm no foul, but upon looking at what i wrote 6 months ago when i was still "cherry" as to what through the months has become different play choices is quite interesting.

Today a bit more pragmatic, with a bit more meta game knowledge, having delved deep into discussions with other posters concerning the various characters, thier motivations, and the choices i can make to influence the outcome has been an interesting journey. I would have to revise my original position in that pretty much anymore i usually make Allistair and Anora marry, spare Loghain which has its own penalties, but i do feed him to the AD so some balance is maintained.

As far as who is the better ruler for the kingdom hands down Anora wins by a landslide compaired to Allistair but Allistair will temper Anora a bit so some balance is achieved. Every kingdom needs rock solid administration and Anora is that to a tee, but in the times of DAO the kingdom also needs a strong leader of armies which Allistair should have developed somewhat from his experience defeating the blight. The only better outcome IMHO for Feraldin is if Anora and my Cousland man get married, then i think the Orlesians had better watch out because as i said in another post reciently, Anora will keep the army fed, I will keep the army lead, we would be the perfect power couple. I sense an info mercial in the works .

Asai