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[Leafs43]

Wowlock wrote...


Ermmm........ Awakening ?

The reason why surface didn't care much about Darkspawn was they killed tooo much Darkspawn at 4th blight and foolishly thought they finally put an end to it. But as long as there are Broodmothers ( we barely killed 5 if you count The Mother too ) they will always be darkspawn.

Who says there is even going to be darkspawn in this game aside from maybe a couple cameos?

For all we know the game can revolve around a bloodthirsty band of invading orcs and a powerful blood mage controlling them.

Modifié par Leafs43, 13 juillet 2010 - 07:03 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Leafs43 wrote...

Wowlock wrote...


Ermmm........ Awakening ?

The reason why surface didn't care much about Darkspawn was they killed tooo much Darkspawn at 4th blight and foolishly thought they finally put an end to it. But as long as there are Broodmothers ( we barely killed 5 if you count The Mother too ) they will always be darkspawn.

Who says there is even going to be darkspawn in this game aside from maybe a couple cameos?

For all we know the game can revolve around a bloodthirsty band of invading orcs and a powerful blood mage controlling them.

 Have you been reading midwinter's thaw DA fanfic?

[Batman90]

Quinnzel wrote...

Xondio wrote...

Duncan was forgetable and bland.  At least Alistair was humorous.

Sorry, but no. Alistair was not funny, neither likeable IMO. He was annoying. He should have died at his joining.

You either have no sense of humor, or only appreciate "badass" characters. Alistair was a great comic relief character (Who evolved past being nothing more than comic relief due to this little thing called character development), and DA2 needs a character like him.

Duncan was pretty ****ing, killing his recruits if they refused to drink the Darkspawn blood. Thats bad ass. He did what he needed to do to fight the blight and recruit new wardens.

"Badass" =/= character depth. Plus, the whole "killing recruits who didn't drink the Darkspawn blood" thing was illogical and made no sense. If someone refuses to become a Grey Warden, then what good does it do to kill that person? Either way, that person wouldn't have been a Grey Warden, so killing that person would have been nothing but unnecessary, animalistic bloodlust.

Modifié par Batman90, 13 juillet 2010 - 07:42 .

[Daryn Mercio]

In Exile wrote...

Personally, I hope there is no involvement from the Grey Wardens in the story. This was by far my least favourite part of DA:O. I simply cannot empathize with sacrificial warrior orders. DA:O tried very hard to force you into being a good little Warden (and often denied you dialogue options that had you outright reject that you considered yourself a Grey Warden), and DA:A was impossible to play unless you

I really hope the Wardens are a minor, if not ideally non-existent, party in DA2.

Every character I have made I make Duncan conscript my PC because he/she doesn't want to be a warden, but does his/her duty for the greater good. I just hope for mention of my Wardens expoits in Origins and Awakening (I didn't see myself as a warden in Awakening, I saw myself as the Arl of Amaranthine)

[Daryn Mercio]

I want to completely overthrow the chantry, I hate the chantry 100%. I was actually ecstatic the last time I played Ostagar right after the joining because the priest administrating blessings of the maker called my character a heathen for not accepting a prayer and dissed the wardens for having me join their ranks, not that being called a heathen is offensive, but she meant offense to my PC by saying that, so I hope she died and got eaten feet first.

Anyways, I want to destroy the Chantry's influence in Thedas, or at least in the Free Marches and ban its practice as I become the emperor of the land.

[Artemis_Entrari]

Maiq the Liar wrote...

The thing is, he isn't normal.

He's "a penniless refugee who rises to power to become the single most important character in the world of Dragon Age." More important than the Warden, who ended the Blight? More important than God-baby? Something isn't right.

To be honest, I hate when characters are billed like that.  It makes a mockery of the character from DA:O, and just screams silly.

I know it's a marketing tool, but I really hate when companies tout their PC as "the single most important character in" whatever game universe the story is in.  Come on, now.

[Leafs43]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...


 Have you been reading midwinter's thaw DA fanfic?

No I just picked out the most cliche thing I could think of.

[ArcanistLibram]

Batman90 wrote...

"Badass" =/= character depth. Plus, the whole "killing recruits who didn't drink the Darkspawn blood" thing was illogical and made no sense. If someone refuses to become a Grey Warden, then what good does it do to kill that person? Either way, that person wouldn't have been a Grey Warden, so killing that person would have been nothing but unnecessary, animalistic bloodlust.

Can't have people spreading rumours about the Secret Grey Warden Handshake. Besides, the only way out of the Wardens is death. If you don't want to die, don't get recruited.

[Tenkari]

warden senses tingling.





Hawke kills the two last old gods before they become archdemons, offs the architect, and obliterates all remaining darkspawn, putting the wardens to shame!





that would deffinately make him the most important character in history, lol.





more than likely he conquers all of Thedas >>

[Noviere]

Collider wrote...

I personally do not want Grey Wardens to be the focus of the story. We already had that in DA:O and DA:A. Thedas is a goldmine for other stories instead.

This is how I feel as well. It's the reason I'm glad we're starting with a new character in DA2, rather than importing the Warden.

[Iokastos]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

We don't know what he does to make him so important in history yet though, we don't even have any clues. For all we know, he may discover the location of the old gods or some way to reverse the taint.

Well, you see, he is the most important because he will not stop at the free marches he will conquer all of Thedas and rule the world...  The Chantry shall name the next age the Mike Hawke Age

lmao 

[In Exile]

Daryn Mercio wrote...
Every character I have made I make Duncan conscript my PC because he/she doesn't want to be a warden, but does his/her duty for the greater good. I just hope for mention of my Wardens expoits in Origins and Awakening (I didn't see myself as a warden in Awakening, I saw myself as the Arl of Amaranthine)

But there are different ways of stopping the Blight for the greater good, and not all of them require internalizing the "<3 Wardens" as an attitude or allegiance. To put it another way, what you did in DA:O was bult an army to defeat the horde of darkspawn and kill the archdemon. None of that requires considering yourself a Grey Warden, and depending on your endgame choice you can free yourself from the curse of the Joining and be completely free.

So there is no need to be a Grey Warden any longer than stopping the Blight in Ferelden and there is no reason to identify as a Grey Warden while doing that. But in Awakening, you have to be a Grey Warden. More confusingly, you have to do it while not having an immunity to the Blight or darkspawn blood, so it tehnically wouldn't be surprising if you just keeled over and died from darkspawn blood.

Wowlock wrote...

Ermmm........ Awakening ?

The
reason why surface didn't care much about Darkspawn was they killed tooo
much Darkspawn at 4th blight and foolishly thought they finally put an
end to it. But as long as there are Broodmothers ( we barely killed 5 if
you count The Mother too ) they will always be darkspawn.

But Awakening was special precisely because the darkspawn did not retreat in the deep roads and instead massed in northern Ferelden. That was the pont of the game - the mystery of this strange, atypical darkspawn behaviour.

Moreover, there is lots of lore that speaks to darkspawn not retreating after a blight, but that they do stay in the
deep roads. The dwarves constantly point this out, and when you ask for their help they're pretty much like, "big deal, you deal with the darkspawn like, once every few centuries"

Cutlass
Jack wrote..



Um yes they do. Darkspawn do raids.
Its organizing into large directed armies under an Archdaemon that only
happens during the blight. Which is why both Cailan and Loghain were
skeptical it was actually a blight.

Loghain was too busy being "rawr! Orlesians" to have much of an opinion on anything. And Cailan was just sad he didn't see an archdemon.

Modifié par In Exile, 13 juillet 2010 - 10:26 .

[Quinnzel]

Batman90 wrote...

Quinnzel wrote...

Xondio wrote...

Duncan was forgetable and bland.  At least Alistair was humorous.

Sorry, but no. Alistair was not funny, neither likeable IMO. He was annoying. He should have died at his joining.

You either have no sense of humor, or only appreciate "badass" characters. Alistair was a great comic relief character (Who evolved past being nothing more than comic relief due to this little thing called character development), and DA2 needs a character like him.

Duncan was pretty ****ing, killing his recruits if they refused to drink the Darkspawn blood. Thats bad ass. He did what he needed to do to fight the blight and recruit new wardens.

"Badass" =/= character depth. Plus, the whole "killing recruits who didn't drink the Darkspawn blood" thing was illogical and made no sense. If someone refuses to become a Grey Warden, then what good does it do to kill that person? Either way, that person wouldn't have been a Grey Warden, so killing that person would have been nothing but unnecessary, animalistic bloodlust.

Oh I agree about Duncan, it made no sense whatsoever to kill them (heck they could still fight normally couldnt they?) I can just appreciate someone who sticks to their guns so damn insanely, that if it was anyone else they would have been branded a nutter! (I also find it hilarious that one guy's defence was "I have a family!!")

I have a great sense of humor, a dark sense true but a great one non the less. Alistair was great at the begining of the game, but after Lothering (hmm, actually maybe a wee bit after it) the dude just started to annoy the hell out of me. His jokes werent funny. Most likely how I just perceived the charecter but by all accounts Sten was funnier than Alistair to me.

I apprecaite badass charecters more than bland ones (which Alistair was to me) he was the equivilent of a buddy movie when I play through the game, his mere existance being so that 'he's your charceters bro! his best friend' so incredibly stale and un-origional. Im all for Bioware trying something like Alistair again in DA2, but they can only do better IMHO.

[Majin Paul]

Quinnzel wrote...

Batman90 wrote...

Quinnzel wrote...

Xondio wrote...

Duncan was forgetable and bland.  At least Alistair was humorous.

Sorry, but no. Alistair was not funny, neither likeable IMO. He was annoying. He should have died at his joining.

You either have no sense of humor, or only appreciate "badass" characters. Alistair was a great comic relief character (Who evolved past being nothing more than comic relief due to this little thing called character development), and DA2 needs a character like him.

Duncan was pretty ****ing, killing his recruits if they refused to drink the Darkspawn blood. Thats bad ass. He did what he needed to do to fight the blight and recruit new wardens.

"Badass" =/= character depth. Plus, the whole "killing recruits who didn't drink the Darkspawn blood" thing was illogical and made no sense. If someone refuses to become a Grey Warden, then what good does it do to kill that person? Either way, that person wouldn't have been a Grey Warden, so killing that person would have been nothing but unnecessary, animalistic bloodlust.

Oh I agree about Duncan, it made no sense whatsoever to kill them (heck they could still fight normally couldnt they?) I can just appreciate someone who sticks to their guns so damn insanely, that if it was anyone else they would have been branded a nutter! (I also find it hilarious that one guy's defence was "I have a family!!")

I have a great sense of humor, a dark sense true but a great one non the less. Alistair was great at the begining of the game, but after Lothering (hmm, actually maybe a wee bit after it) the dude just started to annoy the hell out of me. His jokes werent funny. Most likely how I just perceived the charecter but by all accounts Sten was funnier than Alistair to me.

I apprecaite badass charecters more than bland ones (which Alistair was to me) he was the equivilent of a buddy movie when I play through the game, his mere existance being so that 'he's your charceters bro! his best friend' so incredibly stale and un-origional. Im all for Bioware trying something like Alistair again in DA2, but they can only do better IMHO.

The whole point of killing the recruit who refused the joining was to keep the joining ritual a secret. To me, I can understand why he did it, what I don't understand is why the recruit didn't just do the rutual.

[Quinnzel]

Majin Paul wrote...

The whole point of killing the recruit who refused the joining was to keep the joining ritual a secret. To me, I can understand why he did it, what I don't understand is why the recruit didn't just do the rutual.

Ah I had forgotten that the Joining was a secret! Thanks for reminding me! And yeah, I would take drinking some tainted blood over a sword in the gut anyday. (and I had totally thought those two Warden recruits would make it beyond the Red Shirt stage)

Modifié par Quinnzel, 13 juillet 2010 - 10:57 .

[Majin Paul]

Quinnzel wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

The whole point of killing the recruit who refused the joining was to keep the joining ritual a secret. To me, I can understand why he did it, what I don't understand is why the recruit didn't just do the rutual.

Ah I had forgotten that the Joining was a secret! Thanks for reminding me! And yeah, I would take drinking some tainted blood over a sword in the gut anyday. (and I had totally thought those two Warden recruits would make it beyond the Red Shirt stage)

It would have been better if at least one more survived, even if the one who got stabbed did whinge ever single step in the Korcari Wilds.
Every.
Single.
Step.

[BigOzzie]

I would prefer my warden did not die after 30 years or unless they found a way to extract the darkspawn taint from your body

[Majin Paul]

If I found out mine did go to the calling, I wouldn't mind too much, it sounds like an honourable ending.

[Quinnzel]

Urgh, whilst I wouldnt mind if my Warden finally went to the deep roads as his time approached I would be really dissapointed if thats how it plays out in DA2. He was totally gonna track down Morrigan and make even more babies with her.



I havent read it but Im pretty shure the Calling DA novel mentioned something about being rid of the Darkspawn taint. Anyone confirm this?

[Majin Paul]

Quinnzel wrote...

Urgh, whilst I wouldnt mind if my Warden finally went to the deep roads as his time approached I would be really dissapointed if thats how it plays out in DA2. He was totally gonna track down Morrigan and make even more babies with her.

I havent read it but Im pretty shure the Calling DA novel mentioned something about being rid of the Darkspawn taint. Anyone confirm this?

Spoiler

One character has the taint which has growing at an increased rate is removed, it sounds like the character is then immune from it, might have misunderstood though.

EDIT: How do I get the spoiler thing where it covers that in a black bar to work?

Modifié par Majin Paul, 13 juillet 2010 - 11:33 .

[Patch5129]

I hope Hawke can become a Grey Warden, the entire Grey Warden concept is what I loved about Dragon Age and Awakening. But it doesnt seem to be the case.

A shame really, I kind of hoped DA2 would be about the Grey Wardens in the Major City that Riordan was talking about.

Or at least a prequel to DA:O where we could actually ride Griffons beofre they were extinct

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Leafs43 wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...


 Have you been reading midwinter's thaw DA fanfic?

No I just picked out the most cliche thing I could think of.

If you or anyone is interested here is the link.  Best fanfic that I've read so far.  Chapters 30-40 had me literally melting out of my chair!!!!! 


http://community.liv...sthaw/2242.html

[Mdfitz]

whinnie wrote...

Quinnzel wrote...

Im more concerned if we'll finally get Griffins in this one.

Im pretty sure it tells you in origins that the reason grey wardens no longer ride griffins is because they're extinct...

dragons were belived to be extinct

[RampantFury]

Xondio wrote...

Eludajae wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Just think maybe we can have a Duncan-like older, more veteran Grey Warden companion. I'd like that..

I agree if we are going to have a warden in our midst can we please have a Duncan-like veteran warden and not a bubbling fool Allistar type.

Duncan was forgetable and bland.  At least Alistair was humorous.

And yet hes your avitar? <_<