In the previous game, we only got to visit two cities: Denerim and Orzammar (not counting Amaranthine in the Awakening expansion), the rest of locales either being dungeons, encounter squares, or small villages. Given the political setup of the Free Marches, however, can we expect even more cities?
Will DA2 have more cities?
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 09:22
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Sounds like a good expectation. Free Marches are city-states, right? It would make sense for you to see more cities than in undeveloped, feudal and rural Ferelden.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 09:24
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umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 09:26
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Or maybe the resources needed to design all the Origins levels can now be put to use on making large hub worlds or cities?joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 09:28
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perhaps they removed the races so itd take less time to make the game and also i think there will be atleast 2 main cities and prob 10 villages
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 09:49
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The Origins were a really cool concept but at the end of the day they only take up about 30 minutes of gameplay and for the rest of the game you get some dialogue that says 'oh you're an elf, you are inferior' or 'oh you are a dwarf, are you a merchant? harhar'. I was disappointed with how little the different origins actually affected the game's story. I don't know if this is a spoiler free forum or not so I'll just say that when playing as a certain origin I expected more of a showdown with a certain brother of mine on my return to a certain city but apart from a few dialogue changes it remained exactly the same.
What I'm saying is I don't care about the loss of the origins as long as that means we get something extra in return. If that extra is larger and more varied cities than I certainly won't complain.
What I'm saying is I don't care about the loss of the origins as long as that means we get something extra in return. If that extra is larger and more varied cities than I certainly won't complain.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:01
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Denerim was a lame city too.
It didn't even feel like a city. It only felt like a tiny market (local farmers markets are bigger) and a ghetto.
There were no real landmarks that made it stick out. No statues. No fountains. No stores other than the blacksmith. And you barely got to see the castle from the outside.
It didn't even feel like a city. It only felt like a tiny market (local farmers markets are bigger) and a ghetto.
There were no real landmarks that made it stick out. No statues. No fountains. No stores other than the blacksmith. And you barely got to see the castle from the outside.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:10
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joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Wait what do you mean no elves or dwarves? I thought that only applied to character creation? Surely elves and dwarves are more wide spread than Ferelden?
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:13
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joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Entirely wrong. They have confirmed that elves and dwarves are in the game, just not as the main character. Also, that has no relation to whether cities will be portrayed in the game, since human cities could still be plenty.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:13
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I agree. The way they designed the city was pretty stupid.Leafs43 wrote...
Denerim was a lame city too.
It didn't even feel like a city. It only felt like a tiny market (local farmers markets are bigger) and a ghetto.
There were no real landmarks that made it stick out. No statues. No fountains. No stores other than the blacksmith. And you barely got to see the castle from the outside.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:15
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_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Wait what do you mean no elves or dwarves? I thought that only applied to character creation? Surely elves and dwarves are more wide spread than Ferelden?
They are still in the game. You just don't get to play as one. That poster is just very over dramatic.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:15
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_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Wait what do you mean no elves or dwarves? I thought that only applied to character creation? Surely elves and dwarves are more wide spread than Ferelden?
considering that lore says that only 1 or 2 dwarven cities exist at all, and that players already visited atleast one of those, it is unlikely we see another
but what I meant was roughly that with choice in race cut out it is likely they also lower the amount of areas for the game, including settlements
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:17
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No, that doesn't follow at all. Choice in race is cut because playing other races as PC doesn't fit the game's story - Bioware has said that specifically. On the other hand, that does not in anyway indicate that there would be fewer areas. We just don't know how much area this will cover.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:17
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DA2 is the brand new bloody spanking rpg sh#t, you can expect everything x10. Rock on dude. Oh yea and humans RULE. Who needs to be anything else.
Keep up the good work BIOWARE.
Keep up the good work BIOWARE.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:19
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Lord_Saulot wrote...
joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Entirely wrong. They have confirmed that elves and dwarves are in the game, just not as the main character. Also, that has no relation to whether cities will be portrayed in the game, since human cities could still be plenty.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:22
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joriandrake wrote...
_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Wait what do you mean no elves or dwarves? I thought that only applied to character creation? Surely elves and dwarves are more wide spread than Ferelden?
considering that lore says that only 1 or 2 dwarven cities exist at all, and that players already visited atleast one of those, it is unlikely we see another
but what I meant was roughly that with choice in race cut out it is likely they also lower the amount of areas for the game, including settlements
You are not going to be satisfied until Bioware confirms even they think this game is crap will you? Dwarves may not be as abundant as humans but there are still allot on the surface. And wherever there are humans there are Elves so no worry there. And to think the lack of choice in your race logically fallows that they will skimp on everything else in the game is just silly.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:24
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If memory serves, the description for the Free Marches in DA:O is that it's a loose collection of city-states. I think it possible we may be able to enjoy exploring more than just 2 cities this time around.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:25
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JasonPogo wrote...
joriandrake wrote...
_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
Wait what do you mean no elves or dwarves? I thought that only applied to character creation? Surely elves and dwarves are more wide spread than Ferelden?
considering that lore says that only 1 or 2 dwarven cities exist at all, and that players already visited atleast one of those, it is unlikely we see another
but what I meant was roughly that with choice in race cut out it is likely they also lower the amount of areas for the game, including settlements
You are not going to be satisfied until Bioware confirms even they think this game is crap will you? Dwarves may not be as abundant as humans but there are still allot on the surface. And wherever there are humans there are Elves so no worry there. And to think the lack of choice in your race logically fallows that they will skimp on everything else in the game is just silly.
If you read my posts from the last few days you will see that I don't wish to see the game fail, but I am very dissappointed by some of the already confirmed things for DA2
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:26
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I certainly hope DA2 has more cities than Origins. Or at least make them more memorable. Denerim didn't feel like a capital city at all. When I first entered it, I remember thinking, "Am I in the slums or something? This place is a dump!" Amaranthine, on the other hand is what Denerim should have been, a busy trade city with lots of refugees that was made out of bricks and stone, not planks of wood held together with medieval duct tape.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:26
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mllrthyme wrote...
If memory serves, the description for the Free Marches in DA:O is that it's a loose collection of city-states. I think it possible we may be able to enjoy exploring more than just 2 cities this time around.
that would be great, comparing the size of the free marches from the world map with that of Ferelden, if there are city-states it would be fair to await to see atleast a dozen or more cities in the game fighting for dominance openly and with intrigues
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:28
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I wish they would actually make city's we come back to instead of a lot of city's.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:29
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Waage25 wrote...
I wish they would actually make city's we come back to instead of a lot of city's.
if you can only visit every city once then it would be meaningless that is true
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:31
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mllrthyme wrote...
If memory serves, the description for the Free Marches in DA:O is that it's a loose collection of city-states. I think it possible we may be able to enjoy exploring more than just 2 cities this time around.
Cool so the Free Marches are more or less like renaissance Italy then.
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:32
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JasonPogo wrote...
mllrthyme wrote...
If memory serves, the description for the Free Marches in DA:O is that it's a loose collection of city-states. I think it possible we may be able to enjoy exploring more than just 2 cities this time around.
Cool so the Free Marches are more or less like renaissance Italy then.
or the HRE
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Posté 12 juillet 2010 - 10:40
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joriandrake wrote...
umm... don't get your hopes up, we have even less races to "choose" from so I don't think there will be more than one city and maybe a very few villages, not to mention as there are no elves and dwarves it is also a way to cut out possible elven and dwarven settlements from the game
What does one have anything to do with the other? How do you reason that since you can only play as a human, that there will likely be less cities to visit?
