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[Leon Evelake]

Skaden wrote...

Wouldn't it make more marketing sense to depict Hawke wearing a helmet or a hood, something to still make him appear anonymous because even if the default version did look cool which HE DOESNT its simple probability that somebody somewhere won't like how he looks no matter how cool. If he looked as epic as Sephiroth chances r somebody somewhere still wouldnt like it.

i agree, if im going to make the character i would rather not have all these images of what the main character is "supposed" to look like.  or what the "real" hawke is

[whinnie]

errrr...i took a break from the forums to play a new game and suddenly everyone is talking about rape...did i miss something?

[C9316]

Leon Evelake wrote...

Skaden wrote...

Wouldn't it make more marketing sense to depict Hawke wearing a helmet or a hood, something to still make him appear anonymous because even if the default version did look cool which HE DOESNT its simple probability that somebody somewhere won't like how he looks no matter how cool. If he looked as epic as Sephiroth chances r somebody somewhere still wouldnt like it.

i agree, if im going to make the character i would rather not have all these images of what the main character is "supposed" to look like.  or what the "real" hawke is

Agreed if they still want people to even attempt to make their own characters it seems like a bad idea to make a "canon" she- I mean hawke. Especially if the customize system is gonna be toned down to make all custom characters suck in comparison to this canon shep- dammit I mean hawke which I believe is going to happen in this game.

[Skaden]

Especially if the "real" Hawke looks like some neanderthal on steroids who belongs in Conan the Barbarian

[condiments1]

It wasn't a great idea for Bioware to show these without some sort of clarification of its stage of development other than saying its "super hot".



Sheesh, at this point I have no sympathy. They aren't going to lengths to provide a good impression.

[C9316]

Skaden wrote...

Especially if the "real" Hawke looks like some neanderthal on steroids who belongs in Conan the Barbarian

You mean like these fine chaps?

[Jimmy Fury]

Addai67 wrote...

Altima Darkspells wrote...

Same reasons Iconic!Shepard is on the cover of ME2.  So all the little boys can see the big, bad, muscle bound lummox and ooo and ahhh at his prowess and buy the game so they can identify with him.

Does this even work?  All the men I know who'd otherwise be playing Madden or Call of Duty think Dragon Age is nerdy and won't play it.  Granted, it's a limited sample.

wellllll... It works on me.
But then again I'm not likely to be playing Madden or Call of Duty.
I'm also not interested in identifying with him so much as... nvm.

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:34 .

[Leon Evelake]

C9316 wrote...

Leon Evelake wrote...

Skaden wrote...

Wouldn't it make more marketing sense to depict Hawke wearing a helmet or a hood, something to still make him appear anonymous because even if the default version did look cool which HE DOESNT its simple probability that somebody somewhere won't like how he looks no matter how cool. If he looked as epic as Sephiroth chances r somebody somewhere still wouldnt like it.

i agree, if im going to make the character i would rather not have all these images of what the main character is "supposed" to look like.  or what the "real" hawke is

Agreed if they still want people to even attempt to make their own characters it seems like a bad idea to make a "canon" she- I mean hawke. Especially if the customize system is gonna be toned down to make all custom characters suck in comparison to this canon shep- dammit I mean hawke which I believe is going to happen in this game.

awwww .  i didnt even consider that the custimization would be limited to fit his history or whatever like mass effect.
dangit

[LPPrince]

Leon Evelake wrote...

Skaden wrote...

Wouldn't it make more marketing sense to depict Hawke wearing a helmet or a hood, something to still make him appear anonymous because even if the default version did look cool which HE DOESNT its simple probability that somebody somewhere won't like how he looks no matter how cool. If he looked as epic as Sephiroth chances r somebody somewhere still wouldnt like it.

i agree, if im going to make the character i would rather not have all these images of what the main character is "supposed" to look like.  or what the "real" hawke is

They need someone identifiable for advertising.

Advertising as in on websites, cover art, commercials, adverts, etc etc.

Hence ME's VanderSheploo.

[Skaden]

@C9316- Exactly but with a dead muskrat on his face and a constipated facial expression

sorry if im getting caried away, its just that when i look at default Hawke and then read that he's supposed to be so important i simultaniously get really frustrated and roflmfao

Modifié par Skaden, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:38 .

[Maniac600]

C9316 wrote...

Leon Evelake wrote...

Skaden wrote...

Wouldn't it make more marketing sense to depict Hawke wearing a helmet or a hood, something to still make him appear anonymous because even if the default version did look cool which HE DOESNT its simple probability that somebody somewhere won't like how he looks no matter how cool. If he looked as epic as Sephiroth chances r somebody somewhere still wouldnt like it.

i agree, if im going to make the character i would rather not have all these images of what the main character is "supposed" to look like.  or what the "real" hawke is

Agreed if they still want people to even attempt to make their own characters it seems like a bad idea to make a "canon" she- I mean hawke. Especially if the customize system is gonna be toned down to make all custom characters suck in comparison to this canon shep- dammit I mean hawke which I believe is going to happen in this game.

It's most likely due to plans for continuity to the next DA.

If there is a canon storyline created by this Shep- I mean Hawke, it will be easier to follow up with DA 3, just like ME2 was easy to follow up on ME 1, because players are stuck with one character (persay).

Although I'd rather they stuck with the old style of doing things, this also leaves room for imported decisions into DA 3.

[Alyka]

C9316 wrote...

Skaden wrote...

Especially if the "real" Hawke looks like some neanderthal on steroids who belongs in Conan the Barbarian

You mean like these fine chaps?

Ahahaha.Where are those guys from? I forget but I've seen em before.
Hey I'm all for Hawke looking beefy.Not every man in Thedas has to look the same.We need a man that looks like he can swing a dead cat or three.

Speaking of Conan the Barbarian, a remake of Red Sonya is coming out in 2011 with Rose McGowan.

Modifié par Alyka, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:40 .

[Leon Evelake]

Skaden wrote...

@C9316- Exactly but with a dead muskrat on his face and a constipated facial expression

sorry if im getting caried away, its just that when i look at default Hawke and then read that he's supposed to be so important i simultaniously get really frustrated and roflmfao

just wait until you read game informer. 

[Jimmy Fury]

Now I sort of feel bad for poor Malcolm.

One minute he's the cat's pajamas and everyone's saying he looks so awesome, the next minute they forget he ever starred in those trailers for Origins.

[Leon Evelake]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Now I sort of feel bad for poor Malcolm.

One minute he's the cat's pajamas and everyone's saying he looks so awesome, the next minute they forget he ever starred in those trailers for Origins.

 at least they did adds with different people for the different races. 
with origins you knew he was a stand in because of all the origins.
hawkes being treated as very important as is

[C9316]

Leon Evelake wrote...

Skaden wrote...

@C9316- Exactly but with a dead muskrat on his face and a constipated facial expression

sorry if im getting caried away, its just that when i look at default Hawke and then read that he's supposed to be so important i simultaniously get really frustrated and roflmfao

just wait until you read game informer. 

I forget where I read it but in DA2 its confirmed they won't be using the "tree" dialouge system. Instead now bear with me it seems they'll be using a dialouge system and it should be awsome right? because we've never seen those before.

[C9316]

Leon Evelake wrote...

Skaden wrote...

@C9316- Exactly but with a dead muskrat on his face and a constipated facial expression

sorry if im getting caried away, its just that when i look at default Hawke and then read that he's supposed to be so important i simultaniously get really frustrated and roflmfao

just wait until you read game informer. 

I forget where I read it but in DA2 its confirmed they won't be using the "tree" dialouge system. Instead now bear with me it seems they'll be using a dialouge system and it should be awsome right? because we've never seen those before.

Double post??? but how? its never happened to me before NOOOOOO!!!!!

Modifié par C9316, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:58 .

[Skaden]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Now I sort of feel bad for poor Malcolm.

One minute he's the cat's pajamas and everyone's saying he looks so awesome, the next minute they forget he ever starred in those trailers for Origins.

1 That guy actually looked awesome not like yogi bear before he's had his morning coffee (sorry somehow i find that funny)

2 He wasn't on the cover

3 He was used only as a marketing device and was not constantly depicted on the main site or on every article that came out, besides there were actually origins in the first game so that helped to disprove any conception that this was how the warden was "supposed" to look.

[Jimmy Fury]

Leon Evelake wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Now I sort of feel bad for poor Malcolm.

One minute he's the cat's pajamas and everyone's saying he looks so awesome, the next minute they forget he ever starred in those trailers for Origins.

 at least they did adds with different people for the different races. 
with origins you knew he was a stand in because of all the origins.
hawkes being treated as very important as is

Did they? Because I don't recall a Sacred Ashes or 30StM ad that had an elf leading the charge up the mountain or a dwarf or even a woman. If they exist then do please direct me to them because i'd love to watch them!

But, this is where I get philisophical so if that's not your cup of tea tune out now.
I think "all origins" was the heart of Origins. No matter what origin you pick your mission is to unite the segregated races of Ferelden under a common banner. That was the soul, in my mind at least, of the game. That in this world anyone, no matter their background, can rise to fame and glory and become a hero.
No matter what origin you pick you see little bits of what could have been and what might have been for the other origins. You always meet Jowan, you always deal with the political strife of Orzamar, you always see the end-result of the alienage riot, etc.
But that was Dragon Age: Origins. This is Dragon Age: 2 and this is about 1 person in particular, the human named Hawke.
Where we got to decide who among the "chosen" of Ferelden would rise up and unite the people against the arch demon, we now get to decide how Hawke became the person he or she becomes.
As someone else on another thread mentioned, for all we know DA3 could force us to be an elf, DA4 a dwarf, DA5 a Qunari. We don't know, we're nowhere near those yet.
People have locked on to one single aspect of Dragon Age: Origins and it's the aspect that comes after the colon not before it.
So I don't see why they shouldn't pick a default face to put on the cover. This game is about 1 character afterall.
Heck... maybe all those silhouettes in the Dragon's wings are going to be variations of Hawke. Doubtful but you never know.

[Thresh the Qunari]

hopefully the darkspawn are not the main bad guys

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Malcolm was cool until the Sacred Ashes trailer with deformed, bug-eyed Joan Jett Morrigan teamed up with Kool Aid hair dye, forty foot backflipping Leliana and NFL linebacker, 'hey I'm nothing like Sten' Sten. Whoever made that trailer didn't seem to get more than a loose description of the characters over the phone and wasn't told the game was set to be "dark and gritty." The SA trailer felt cheesy to me more like a rediculous action sequence out of a god-aweful teen anime like Naruto.

And yes, everyone has a different deffinition of "dark and gritty" but to me that trailer didn't match the game or the characters portrayed in it. Kind of an advertising failure that made me think back to the days of 8-bit/16-bit console systems where cutscenes and game covers were done in entirely different styles because the graphics were primitive. I think the graphics in Dragon Age, especially with some fan mods, looks great. They should of showcased those instead of the false promise of crappy CGI that has nothing to do with how the game or characters really appear.

P.S. Yes, if those are Darkspawn they look downgraded. In fact they look like stand in mob villans from an old 80s cartoon like Thundarr the Barbarian. If so, they really should make Hawke's battle cry "Lords of Light!"

www.thundarr.com/index.html

Modifié par Ryllen Laerth Kriel, 14 juillet 2010 - 03:25 .

[Jimmy Fury]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...
And yes, everyone has a different deffinition of "dark and gritty" but to me that trailer didn't match the game or the characters portrayed in it. Kind of an advertising failure that made me think back to the days of 8-bit/16-bit console systems where cutscenes and game covers were done in entirely different styles because the graphics were primitive. I think the graphics in Dragon Age, especially with some fan mods, looks great. They should of showcased those instead of the false promise of crappy CGI that has nothing to do with how the game or characters really appear.

Now that I agree with. But then again that's why I like the new direction shown in the screens because it reminds me of the Origins trailers.
I mean I never expected it to look exactly like that but a teeny tiny bit like that would have made me happy.

And there's nothing wrong with Joan Jett or Naruto

[Skaden]

Another thing that bothers me is how Hawke somehow has hops even when holding a 2 hander and wearing that stupidly cumbersome looking barbarian armour. This isn't a big deal to be honest i just find it amusing.

Modifié par Skaden, 14 juillet 2010 - 03:49 .

[LyletheBloody]

I would not consider those screenshots to be upgrades to the original game. I would consider them downgrades in fact.



Not saying that DA 2 will suck becaue of that, but it makes me wonder when we're going to see this visual upgrade BioWare is bragging about.

[Jimmy Fury]

LyletheBloody wrote...

I would not consider those screenshots to be upgrades to the original game. I would consider them downgrades in fact.

Not saying that DA 2 will suck becaue of that, but it makes me wonder when we're going to see this visual upgrade BioWare is bragging about.

Probably August when the trailer comes out.
We'll probably get a bit more chaos-bait before then but they'll probably hold out on the good stuff until august.