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[Narreneth]

dragonsony09 wrote...

ham i the only one that is not happy about hour wardens not makeing a come back in da:o2 when i finished da:o1) i couldn't wait for da:o2 and now we find that our wardens arn't in it well i'am pissd i'll still buy the game but it won't be the same with out the hero of Ferelden (sad but true)PLEASE BRING BACK THE WARDENS BIOWARE

It's been stated since before DAO was released that you should not expect to have your character carry on into the other games.  Dragon Age is not one story line, it is about Thedas during the Dragon Age.  Not your Warden.  Quit expecting things that you were told not to expect before the game ever came out.

[Tizle]

 i'm excited. i don't care what anyone says.

[Bryy_Miller]

dragonsony09 wrote...

ham i the only one that is not happy about hour wardens not makeing a come back in da:o2 when i finished da:o1) i couldn't wait for da:o2 and now we find that our wardens arn't in it well i'am pissd i'll still buy the game but it won't be the same with out the hero of Ferelden (sad but true)PLEASE BRING BACK THE WARDENS BIOWARE

Your actions import. Either way, it's a new game.

[Kalfear]

Narreneth wrote...

dragonsony09 wrote...

ham i the only one that is not happy about hour wardens not makeing a come back in da:o2 when i finished da:o1) i couldn't wait for da:o2 and now we find that our wardens arn't in it well i'am pissd i'll still buy the game but it won't be the same with out the hero of Ferelden (sad but true)PLEASE BRING BACK THE WARDENS BIOWARE

It's been stated since before DAO was released that you should not expect to have your character carry on into the other games.  Dragon Age is not one story line, it is about Thedas during the Dragon Age.  Not your Warden.  Quit expecting things that you were told not to expect before the game ever came out.

Source link or doesnt exist!

I read and heard all the original stuff and I didnt hear this EVER when talking about the ongoing DA games.

[Thibbledorf26]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

DA2 has JUST been announced..everyone is already thinking ist will suck, it will be like mass effect, that the graphics still look lame, that hawke is a stupid character...ITS JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED PEOPLE...it wont be released to freaking 2011 in march.

and to all the complaints everyone has had

1. having hawke talk makes your character ALIVE and not just some silent emotionless protaginist

2. the combat is not gonna be a 3rd person shooter, it will be like origins but updated.

3.ok, your not a warden raising an army to fight the blight do we want to do the SAME PLOT we did in 2009

4.and the graphics...WHO CARES, graphics dont make a games, sucky games like cod have great graphics, but AWSOME games like the first dragon age have terriblie graphics..and they are BETA GRAPHICS DA2 is still being updated, no game has the full made graphics from the start.

say what you like but if your a loyal fan to bioware who loved kotor, dragon age, the mass effect series, and buldars gate i dont see how anyone could be worried...its bioware OK its gonna be an awsome game maybe the best ever

The problem with this post is that you are presenting a few pieces of opinion as fact. Your opinions about the merits of having a chosen protagonist or about graphics are not absolute fact. Speculation and discussion is healthy, and as we gain more information the speculation will be narrowed down and more grounded.

[MassEffect762]

I'm late to the party, just found out about all this stuff.(Leli DLC, DA2)



Almost done with Leli DLC, it's okay so far.(nothing groundbreaking but alright)



On the subject of DA2, all I have to say is that EA/bioware can do what they want though

it doesn't mean I trust them to raise the bar.(yes I'm that skeptic who's less than happy with recent BW/EA products) The term slacker comes to mind.



i.e.



ME2=so much lackluster

DA:A=mediocre

DA:DC=tired of darkspawn(darkspawn make for poor villains)

[Rubbish Hero]

Not panning it, just seems console oriented. Suppose to be back to there routes, spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate, right? Sounds more like Mass Effect with color coded icons for kids on consoles who don't want to read. Also seems like they are putting emphasis on presentation than a deep role playing game. Bioware David person already say the player has less input, just watch it, without doing anything. Sounds balls.

[Dacen315]

You know I have a question to all of the people who greatly enjoy Mass Effect (there is nothing wrong with that) who want Dragon Age 2 to be more "cinematic" and "character driven" let me ask you, How would you feel?
Imagine this scenario. What if, for Mass Effect 3, Bioware decided to ditch Shepard completely. You now play as your own character on planets you've never even visited. You have 3 choices when it comes to race, no human, just turian, asari, and salarian. Now, imagine if Bioware decided to completely ditch the conversation wheel in favor of a more traditional conversation system. And on top of that, no VO for your character, You would be pretty mad, wouldn't you? And this time around combat is not action-focused and more time is spent on where to spend your skills and abilities.
You have that image in your head? Now imagine how an player who prefers the old system better feels. Bioware marketed the first game off as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. A lot of old-time players were waiting for that and when it came it (for a lot of us) went above and beyond our expectations. If you're gonna market this game off as "the sequel to the 2009 RPG of the year" which was "the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate" most of us who wanted that kind of gameplay and immersion again would expect that in a sequel.
EDIT:  Forgot something
Now imagine that these details have just been confirmed. And there is no trailer out yet or a gameplay video.

Modifié par Dacen315, 15 juillet 2010 - 10:48 .

[dragonsony09]

when was it made clear that our characters would'nt be makeing a come back in da:o2 i never heard that the way the game ends they would be comeing back and i don't mean awakening and i no it does'nt sound like it but i'am looking forwoard to da:o2 i can't wait cheers bioware for makeing da:o2 and 3 4 5 6 hope fully) sorry for the mone'ing but i really liked my character

[Kalcalan]

Dacen315 wrote...

You know I have a question to all of the people who greatly enjoy Mass Effect (there is nothing wrong with that) who want Dragon Age 2 to be more "cinematic" and "character driven" let me ask you, How would you feel?
Imagine this scenario. What if, for Mass Effect 3, Bioware decided to ditch Shepard completely. You now play as your own character on planets you've never even visited. You have 3 choices when it comes to race, no human, just turian, asari, and salarian. Now, imagine if Bioware decided to completely ditch the conversation wheel in favor of a more traditional conversation system. And on top of that, no VO for your character, You would be pretty mad, wouldn't you? And this time around combat is not action-focused and more time is spent on where to spend your skills and abilities.
You have that image in your head? Now imagine how an player who prefers the old system better feels. Bioware marketed the first game off as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. A lot of old-time players were waiting for that and when it came it (for a lot of us) went above and beyond our expectations. If you're gonna market this game off as "the sequel to the 2009 RPG of the year" which was "the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate" most of us who wanted that kind of gameplay and immersion again would expect that in a sequel.
EDIT:  Forgot something
Now imagine that these details have just been confirmed. And there is no trailer out yet or a gameplay video.

Good post. I for one had almost no expectations regarding DAO. All the hype did was annoy me. I gave the Character Creator a try and was really interested by all the elements it featured so I decided to get the game and it turned out to be one of the most entertaining games I've played in a very long time.

I did try Mass Effect 2 but I really didn't like the way it worked (and I'm a huge Sci Fi enthusiast). So I have misgivings about DA2. I sure would like to see a gameplay video to determine whether or not the game will be more like DAO or indeed play like ME2. As for now we don't have much in the way of information except things like the speech wheel and the voice over and both are big turn offs for me.

Add the fact that non humans are out and that only makes things worse for players who enjoyed what DAO did in that respect. As for now ranting doesn't help but it's not ranting to voice one's misgivings or doubts about the direction the DA franchise is taking.

The fact that DAO did so well as far as sales are concerned makes it a really strange decision as well (if indeed the decision is to make DA2 play more like ME2). I understand the need for change to bring something new to a sequel but I don't get the whole thing. If it's not broken why fix it?

Modifié par Kalcalan, 15 juillet 2010 - 12:12 .

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Dacen315 wrote...

You know I have a question to all of the people who greatly enjoy Mass Effect (there is nothing wrong with that) who want Dragon Age 2 to be more "cinematic" and "character driven" let me ask you, How would you feel?
Imagine this scenario. What if, for Mass Effect 3, Bioware decided to ditch Shepard completely. You now play as your own character on planets you've never even visited. You have 3 choices when it comes to race, no human, just turian, asari, and salarian. Now, imagine if Bioware decided to completely ditch the conversation wheel in favor of a more traditional conversation system. And on top of that, no VO for your character, You would be pretty mad, wouldn't you? And this time around combat is not action-focused and more time is spent on where to spend your skills and abilities.
You have that image in your head? Now imagine how an player who prefers the old system better feels. Bioware marketed the first game off as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. A lot of old-time players were waiting for that and when it came it (for a lot of us) went above and beyond our expectations. If you're gonna market this game off as "the sequel to the 2009 RPG of the year" which was "the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate" most of us who wanted that kind of gameplay and immersion again would expect that in a sequel.
EDIT:  Forgot something
Now imagine that these details have just been confirmed. And there is no trailer out yet or a gameplay video.

Personally I would't care too much, but that's just me.

I don't think you can divide players into 2 neat little bundles like that. Not everyone who is ok with DA2 as announced so far was a fan of the changes in ME2.

[Dacen315]

@ Shinian2

I was not trying to generalize Bioware fans into "Mass Effect" and "Dragon Age". I know that quite of bit of ME1 fans were upset about the ME2 changes. What I was trying to make a point is that most of the people that support the changes made for DA2 tend to prefer ME2. I did not mean that post as a personal attack. Both Mass Effect and Dragon Age have their strong points and weak points, but that's what sequels do, they expand upon the positives and try to improve the negatives. Coming up with a sequel is hard because you have to appeal to a broader audience without alienating the fans of the first game.

[odiedragon]

David Gaider wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Well, I wasn't aware Bioware valued some money over others.

We don't.

My point is that some people apparently think we should-- that the "console kiddie" or the person with "no imagination" or the person who plays a game only once is somehow less worthwhile a person to develop a game for even though they spent exactly the same amount of money on the game as the PC gamer, the person with all the imagination in the world who likes to read their own dialogue or the person who re-plays the game a hundred times (or hangs out on these forums, even).

My point is that if you wish to use arguments with each other, or with us, as to why you should be listened to-- perhaps leaving elitism out of it would be the smart choice, that's all I'm saying.

Well that confirms it for me then.  I'm an elitist and Bioware is not interested in what I have to say.  I had been planning on starting a thread as to why we shouldn't blame the set protagonist for our issues with what we know about DA2, but so much for that.

[Kalcalan]

simfamSP wrote...

And btw, guys...it's not origins. It's a completley new game it's Dragon age 2. Not Dragon age: Origins 2.

But it's still Dragon Age and not something else entirely.

[Narreneth]

Kalfear wrote...

Narreneth wrote...

dragonsony09 wrote...

ham i the only one that is not happy about hour wardens not makeing a come back in da:o2 when i finished da:o1) i couldn't wait for da:o2 and now we find that our wardens arn't in it well i'am pissd i'll still buy the game but it won't be the same with out the hero of Ferelden (sad but true)PLEASE BRING BACK THE WARDENS BIOWARE

It's been stated since before DAO was released that you should not expect to have your character carry on into the other games.  Dragon Age is not one story line, it is about Thedas during the Dragon Age.  Not your Warden.  Quit expecting things that you were told not to expect before the game ever came out.

Source link or doesnt exist!

I read and heard all the original stuff and I didnt hear this EVER when talking about the ongoing DA games.

The old boards are gone and you know that very well.  It's your fault for being delusional if you put the idea in your head that you got a new one.  If you don't like the concept of DA2, shut the **** up, quit posting, and go somewhere else.  You have consistently acted like an ass towards everyone for the past few days.

[Narreneth]

Kalcalan wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

And btw, guys...it's not origins. It's a completley new game it's Dragon age 2. Not Dragon age: Origins 2.

But it's still Dragon Age and not something else entirely.

They haven't turned it into something else entirely.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Dacen315 wrote...

@ Shinian2

I was not trying to generalize Bioware fans into "Mass Effect" and "Dragon Age". I know that quite of bit of ME1 fans were upset about the ME2 changes. What I was trying to make a point is that most of the people that support the changes made for DA2 tend to prefer ME2. I did not mean that post as a personal attack. Both Mass Effect and Dragon Age have their strong points and weak points, but that's what sequels do, they expand upon the positives and try to improve the negatives. Coming up with a sequel is hard because you have to appeal to a broader audience without alienating the fans of the first game.

OK, but we don't have enough information about DA2 to decide whether or not we like the story or changes. Having a dialog wheel doesn't necessarily mean that ALL the negative changes in ME2 will be brought to DA2.

As for the character changing, I've always understood that the warden may not be carried forward to future titles in the franchise. Some people missd this information, that's partially why they are upset. However, it's their misunderstanding of the scope of the franchise that is to blame there, not Biowares.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Narreneth wrote...

Kalfear wrote...

Narreneth wrote...

dragonsony09 wrote...

ham i the only one that is not happy about hour wardens not makeing a come back in da:o2 when i finished da:o1) i couldn't wait for da:o2 and now we find that our wardens arn't in it well i'am pissd i'll still buy the game but it won't be the same with out the hero of Ferelden (sad but true)PLEASE BRING BACK THE WARDENS BIOWARE

It's been stated since before DAO was released that you should not expect to have your character carry on into the other games.  Dragon Age is not one story line, it is about Thedas during the Dragon Age.  Not your Warden.  Quit expecting things that you were told not to expect before the game ever came out.

Source link or doesnt exist!

I read and heard all the original stuff and I didnt hear this EVER when talking about the ongoing DA games.

The old boards are gone and you know that very well.  It's your fault for being delusional if you put the idea in your head that you got a new one.  If you don't like the concept of DA2, shut the **** up, quit posting, and go somewhere else.  You have consistently acted like an ass towards everyone for the past few days.

The patterns are there, buried in the data..

Sorry, I couldn't resist..

[dragonsony09]

this is a general discussion right and i'am just give'in my oppinion why don't you chill out and if it's not origins why is it a sequel

[Narreneth]

Shinian2 wrote...

Narreneth wrote...

Kalfear wrote...

Narreneth wrote...

dragonsony09 wrote...

ham i the only one that is not happy about hour wardens not makeing a come back in da:o2 when i finished da:o1) i couldn't wait for da:o2 and now we find that our wardens arn't in it well i'am pissd i'll still buy the game but it won't be the same with out the hero of Ferelden (sad but true)PLEASE BRING BACK THE WARDENS BIOWARE

It's been stated since before DAO was released that you should not expect to have your character carry on into the other games.  Dragon Age is not one story line, it is about Thedas during the Dragon Age.  Not your Warden.  Quit expecting things that you were told not to expect before the game ever came out.

Source link or doesnt exist!

I read and heard all the original stuff and I didnt hear this EVER when talking about the ongoing DA games.

The old boards are gone and you know that very well.  It's your fault for being delusional if you put the idea in your head that you got a new one.  If you don't like the concept of DA2, shut the **** up, quit posting, and go somewhere else.  You have consistently acted like an ass towards everyone for the past few days.

The patterns are there, buried in the data..

Sorry, I couldn't resist..

Yeah, if you look only at Mass Effect and Baldur's Gate

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

dragonsony09 wrote...

this is a general discussion right and i'am just give'in my oppinion why don't you chill out and if it's not origins why is it a sequel

It's another game in the Dragon Age franchise.

[Dacen315]

@ Shinian2

True, we may not have that much information with what information we have been given is what is upsetting a lot of people. You notice in my first post that all those arguments were things that were CONFIRMED by Bioware, not speculation (Not for Mass Effect 3, but for Dragon Age 2). Yes, it might be true that I turn out to be wrong. Yes, this system could work and people will love the changes. It's just these design decisions made by Bioware make me and others who agree with me feel alienated.

[Bryy_Miller]

Dacen315 wrote...

@ Shinian2

True, we may not have that much information with what information we have been given is what is upsetting a lot of people. You notice in my first post that all those arguments were things that were CONFIRMED by Bioware, not speculation (Not for Mass Effect 3, but for Dragon Age 2). Yes, it might be true that I turn out to be wrong. Yes, this system could work and people will love the changes. It's just these design decisions made by Bioware make me and others who agree with me feel alienated.

But that shouldn't make people say "omg it's not dragon age why are they calling it a sequel".

[joriandrake]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Dacen315 wrote...

@ Shinian2

True, we may not have that much information with what information we have been given is what is upsetting a lot of people. You notice in my first post that all those arguments were things that were CONFIRMED by Bioware, not speculation (Not for Mass Effect 3, but for Dragon Age 2). Yes, it might be true that I turn out to be wrong. Yes, this system could work and people will love the changes. It's just these design decisions made by Bioware make me and others who agree with me feel alienated.

But that shouldn't make people say "omg it's not dragon age why are they calling it a sequel".

it cries Fallout 3 all over again


When it was developed I joined its forums, I was one of the people who defended Bethesda that they can pull it off if they want that they can really make a true sequel to Fallout 1-2


In the end, when the game came out I was sad to see that they didn't manage it, they just made a game in the same world as Fallout 1-2 but not a true sequel, it was just too different from the predecessors for me to be considered a sequel, and I was never able to even play a bit further than reaching the village with the nuke.