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[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Before people declare that the Reapers are invincible unless we use their tech, they should remeber that many foes were considered invincible at many times but new tactics, clever thinking, and courage have won the day.

Yeah, tech is a total ****ing waste of ****ing time. You need to spread the word around. The last 40,000 years of huma history have been one gigantic waste of ****ing time because TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T MATTER!

He didn't say that Shand >.>, he just said that tactics can prevail over superior tech.

[Sajuro]

mrsph wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

mrsph wrote...

nikki191 wrote...

the one thing i have learned about cerberus is that the way to defeat them is to do nothing .. eventually they will end up destroying themselves

Giving them the base is the logical choice then.

No, because they'll destroy themselves but the problem is how many other lives they will destroy.

It would probably be a cool explosion though!

That's why I destroyed the base, I like my gratification like I like my pudding: instant!

[Giggles_Manically]

Shandepared wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Before people declare that the Reapers are invincible unless we use their tech, they should remeber that many foes were considered invincible at many times but new tactics, clever thinking, and courage have won the day.

Yeah, tech is a total ****ing waste of ****ing time. You need to spread the word around. The last 40,000 years of huma history have been one gigantic waste of ****ing time because TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T MATTER!

America's military is getting bled dry by "insurgents using clever tactics and cheap effective tech (IEDS)
They also lost to the Vietkong as well.

Alexander the great fought war elephants and chariots, until that point the true arbiters of war. But using good positioning he made them null and romped over many times the number of foes.

The Germans lost to the Russians again who used cheap weapons and brilliant tactics to draw them into bad places and caused them to lose.

The Romans lost to "barbarians" who were very clever in how they fought in 400 CE.

I can list more but tech does not win wars, it aids in the outcome but tactics, training, and leadership have won them more often then not.

[Giggles_Manically]

See post above you good sir.

[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

He didn't say that Shand >.>, he just said that tactics can prevail over superior tech.

WHAT ****ING TACTIC????????????

I don't know if that's the right way to put it, but tactics could be from ambushes to the ever popular KILL IT WITH FIRE!

[Giggles_Manically]

I was not saying an insurgency was the way to go mearly pointing out that the supposed Juggernagught of the US is losing against rebels who use cheap but effective tactics on them.



If you want to post short meaningless tirades with needless capitilizations and pointless exclamation marks then as Sov. once said:

This exchange is over.

[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...

Your mission, Giggles_Manically is this:

Defeat the U.S. Navy in a pitched battle in the middle of the Pacific ocean.

The U.S. Navy is current but all you get is 18th century wooden ships.

Good luck.

Retreat until the navy runs out of fuel then board the ships with the Somali pirates

[Giggles_Manically]

Shandepared wrote...

Wooden ships, Giggles, defeat the modern United States Navy with wooden ships. Come on, put your money where your mouth is.

Since you insist on trolling, I will not decend into your level.

I am saying once again that historically tactics, and other factors always keep the edge on tech.

[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Retreat until the navy runs out of fuel then board the ships with the Somali pirates

The U.S. Navy is faster than you and has much longer attack range. You can't retreat. You'll be fortunate if you can even attack.

Surrender then when you board the ship to officially surrender, attack the crew on hold them hostage on the navy's own ship.

[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I am saying once again that historically tactics, and other factors always keep the edge on tech.

What I'm saying is you have no clue what you're talking about. If what you said was true nobody would ever develop new weapons for war.

What happened when the machine gun was invented? Old tactics had to be changed. Suddenly horses and mass rushes of infantry didn't work.

What happened when we started rifling the barrels of our muskets? We had to change our tactics because the old tactics wouldn't work.

The point is, you devise new technology because it gives you new avenues of attack or defense. You force the enemy to try and come up with new tactics and/or new technologies to counter it.

Tactics alone can't counter superior technology. Tactics help, technology helps. You need both.

Shand tries to hit  the point -rolls one- Critical Miss!

[Giggles_Manically]

Shandepared wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I am saying once again that historically tactics, and other factors always keep the edge on tech.

What I'm saying is you have no clue what you're talking about. If what you said was true nobody would ever develop new weapons for war.

What happened when the machine gun was invented? Old tactics had to be changed. Suddenly horses and mass rushes of infantry didn't work.

What happened when we started rifling the barrels of our muskets? We had to change our tactics because the old tactics wouldn't work.

The point is, you devise new technology because it gives you new avenues of attack or defense. You force the enemy to try and come up with new tactics and/or new technologies to counter it.

Tactics alone can't counter superior technology. Tactics help, technology helps. You need both.

You do have a point in that tech is a benefit, but it also can hinder or blind you without it.

Every great general in history won with tactics not tech. Tech can give you an edge but to quote the US airforce:
"We have the spear meaning we can beat the guy with the knife, yet if we get stuck in a phone booth the knife trumps the spear"

Armies who believe their tech makes them godlike or unstoppable is what brought them low in the end and it is what will bring the Reapers down as well since they are on a hubris trip that has laster millions of years.

[DOYOURLABS]

It seems like BioWare portrayed the Alliance/Council as not doing anything and Cerberus as doing it but being terrible at it.

[Giggles_Manically]

Tanks and aircraft obviously.



However trenches were not made to counter machine guns since they saw large scale deployment only later. Trenches were made to counter artillery barrages and mass infantry charges.



Machine guns are a defensive weapon in this period not an offensive weapon.

[Sajuro]

Shandepared wrote...


You're trying to be clever but it's not working because to be clever you'd have to be smart, and you're an idiot.

Machine-guns forced a change in tactics, everybody dug trenches.

Question: what then changed the way war was fought and got people out of the trenches in time for the next war?

Tanks changed that as they could resist machine gun fire and plow through the barbed wire that was used on the battlefields in WWI. Though tanks weren't as effective in narrow areas and they still are weak against landmines and IEDs. So some Allied soldiers could still defeat some tanks through the use of explosives.

[Giggles_Manically]

Good bye Shande,

I tire of trying to explain an obvious fact to you, watching you ignore my multiple responses, and being an troll I am leaving. Continue to delude youself into the fact that being an imbecile on the web makes you matter in the scheme of things. Me I have work and a life to get back to. You have your basement at your moms house that most likely needs cleaning. Let us part with mutal agreement that neither of us gets along and ignore the other.

See yah round mate.

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 18 juillet 2010 - 05:33 .