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[NWN DM]

Well, this is going to a nice poisoned dagger into the aging hearts of NWN and NWN2....

[Axe_Edge]

The sooner NWN is added to the "Games" at the header, the better.  Even though NWN2 isn't Bioware, tmaybe they will let us keep the community together by adding "NWN2" as a subcategory (under NWN).

Modifié par Axe_Edge, 13 juillet 2010 - 11:42 .

[Tooneyman]

Actually what I've been wanting to know is now that we have this forum on the website.Will we be able to Register our NWN2 games and expansions with your site Chris?

[MindYerBeak]

Is it possible that the old forum could be kept open by members paying a subscription fee?

[MokahTGS]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Sadly, there is no way to directly transfer the threads from the legacy forum to the current Social site forums.

We will be archiving the legacy site so the information will not be lost, but we will be relying on our fans to copy/paste the threads/info they want to these forums.

Handy tip, if you are going to cut and paste, use something liek notepad as an intermediary format change to avoid badness in the process.

Ok, thank you for clearing up that the forum posts will not be lost forever.  That would truely suck.  As long as we can search the old forums and move the relivant infomation here, that will be fine.  The NWN/NWN2 communities will adapt.

[c i p h e r]

ç i p h é r wrote...

Chris, will this archive be searchable or downloadable? Will the community have access to the data? If so, where/how can we obtain it?

Some details would be greatly appreciated!

Bump. Don't want this question to get lost amid all the off topic noise. A response would be really really appreciated here, if you really want to help the NWN2 community out of the goodness of your hearts.

[Goldrock]

I dont like this move honestly legeacy was sooo much more mature now the combinations gonna bring in the pessimist mainstream new gen gamers who do nothing but rant and flame the games cause their not made in their fashion lol owell.

we gonna be able too combine our legacy accounts cd keys and what not into one ?

[dunniteowl]

I know most of this was covered, though mostly in the "legacy" forums, so let me recap a little bit:

1) Legacy Forums will close Monday, 19 July 2010

2) All forum data will remain intact with links still functional until archived.

3) After Archive, the forums' data will still be there, but it is uncertain if the current *(and now original) links will function to get you there.  You may just have to visit the Archives, search and relink.  This is not certain at this time.

4) Guilds and Registry Forums will remain open, though they can (and may) be closed without notice any time after the Official Forums Closing Date in point 1.

5) Data can be transferred 'by hand' from there to here for topics, threads and posts deemed important enough for you to do so.  (This, I think, should be collaboratively discussed and an action plan chosen soon.)

6) Your ability to log into and play in PWs, MP via your CD-Keys that are already registered will be unaffected.

7) I don't know at this point in time if there will be a new repository for CD-Keys registration, so the current recommendation is to copy them off your old account and store them someplace safe (and private) just in case there comes a time when this is an issue.

At this point in time, that's all I know for certain, or as certain as I can know it.  Please let's not speculate on what may be, or focus on how troublesome this is.  Let's roll up our sleeves and SOLVE issues as they arise.  If that's the tack we take, then the seas will assuredly be smoother than if we simply all sail willy nilly without a plan or coordination of our efforts.

Any other suggestions on how to capture, collate and re-incorporate game related information (such as tips and tricks for key commands, functions, settings, etc,) as well as trouble shooting, rules, etc, into these fora are welcome and encouraged.

From my old Air Force days (wow, has it really been 25 years last month that I got out?) I was told and trained: If there is a problem and you bring it to someone's attention and you don't have a solution or plan to fix it, then you're just complaining.  That makes you part of the problem.  Let's be solutions oriented about these efforts, people and, knowing most of you for some time online, I am confident that is the general nature of this Community anyway.

Still, a decent pep talk is always a nice way to help focus effort.  And don't you find it ironic that I use sailing metaphors when my military experience was around flying?  I know I do.

best regards,
dunniteowl
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[Goldrock]

Thanks for the info.works for me.

[c i p h e r]

Thanks DNO. Really appreciate the response and I'm relieved to hear the old nwn2 forums will still remain online, though I do worry for how long. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

As for moving the old forum posts over, I totally agree with you. If that process is not managed in some way, I can see things getting horribly chaotic, particularly in the form of duplicate posts.

[Thrasher91604]

I find it VERY difficult to believe the old forums cannot be moved to the new. It should be a very easy programming task.

[The Curt Jester]

Thrasher91604 wrote...

I find it VERY difficult to believe the old forums cannot be moved to the new. It should be a very easy programming task.

I had the SoD forums at one site for awhile and then transferred them.  The previous hosting site makes a business of transferring growing forums to a paid service (hosted by another company) when they outgrow the free service, or need more options.   The thing is, that just involves transferring the database from one site to another, but it remains the same - phpBB.  

I'm guessing that neither this site nor the old one uses phpBB so transferring the data may not be nearly as easy, especially considering that I don't think the two boards are the same type (they certainly don't seem like it to me!).  So I can believe it when they say that the old database can't be transferred.

[Thrasher91604]

"Can't" is simply not true. It would not be that hard to write a program to do the transfer.



What they should say is that they "won't" do the transfer.

[dunniteowl]

Well let's just say that the use of the word "can't" in the above phrases include the unspoken portion called, "afford." So when Chris says, "We can't transfer the database directly over," what he's really saying is, "We can't afford to transfer the database directly over." And, when looked at from that perspective, it makes complete sense. I'm sure it could be doable, but the question then becomes, how much does it cost and what benefit do we get out of it (and I am positing this from a Corporate Point of View, not a Customer Centric one.)



At least, that's how I saw it from the outset. It's obviously always going to boil down to a dollars/benefit analysis. The forums are valuable to us as players, modders, builders, etc, But no matter how valued they are, it's clearly so much cheaper to not transfer the data bases straight over than it would be to spend the moolah to pay some outisde service to get 'er done, with nothing more than (again, my opinion is that this is a Corporate perspective) a marginal PR gain from an aging Community that isn't making the company any real cash.



See? Optimist though I am, I can look at things without the blinders most attribute to optmists. I believe the estimate here is sound. And that's what we have to deal with as best we can.



best regards,

dunniteowl

[c i p h e r]

Why not leverage community assets to make it happen? Would Bioware be willing to accept a volunteer to code this transfer if someone was willing to do it? I think all it would require is the database schemas of the two databases to code a transfer script, and of course someone on the Bioware side to run/test it on the data sets.

[dunniteowl]

That's a very good idea. I wonder how many folks in the Community, both 1 and 2 have the talent for taking on such a thing? And I also wonder, if there will be a physical presence required to make the transfers properly? I know little to nothing about this in a practical sense. Still, I think it's a good idea and if there are folks that can do it, are willing to do it, and it can be arranged -- I'd certainly consider those folks Community Heroes of Renown, without question.



Thoughts? Opinions? Knowledgable Ones?





dunniteowl

[Thrasher91604]

Good idea. Hopefully someone in the community is between jobs and may be able to take this on.

[MasterChanger]

At least at present, the My Topics section of the Legacy forums is still available, even though the forums are closed. I don't know if it will stay that way, but it certainly makes me breathe a little easier for right now.

[KrisM77]

Such a waste - loss of a beautiful database.

[NWN DM]

Goldrock wrote...

I dont like this move honestly legeacy was sooo much more mature now the combinations gonna bring in the pessimist mainstream new gen gamers who do nothing but rant and flame the games cause their not made in their fashion lol owell.
we gonna be able too combine our legacy accounts cd keys and what not into one ?

We already had all that on the old boards.
So, if we just all agree to keep it nice and play like none of us is the only child in the sandbox, we should be fine here.