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[Captain Crash]

Well Dark Energy will likely play a part in ME3. After learning from Tali that a star is rapidly dying due to it there may be a way to research it further and use some sort of dark energy weapon against the Reapers. Perhaps luring the Reapers to a star system and then rigging the star into a black hole destroying the reapers in a gravity well. Epic end sequence of ME3 is Shepard and the Normandy attempting to outrun it.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...

Well, disregarding the fact Klendagon is based on Mars... actually, how disappointing it was to look at Klendagon in ME2 only to find Generic Mining Planet #97 without any rift. Anyway, the Illusive Man says the weapon they found was defunct, but I'm sure they're looking to reverse engineer it and improve upon it.
Curious that it seemed to be so far from the Reaper that the Reaper should be in a completely different system from Klendagon with the weapon likely also in a different system. Makes me wonder if the Reaper was initially in the same system as the weapon and it escaped in a highly crippled state before "dying."
With all the dark energy references in ME2, I wonder if the fact we found the Reaper by a brown dwarf wasn't exactly coincidence on its part.

If anything, I'd say that that the weapon was found on Etamis in the Schwarzschild system, which is also located in the Hawking Eta cluster. Nowadays a shot from there to the Thorne system wouldn't pass Century (in which Kendagon is located), but I suppose each system could've moved in those 37 million years.

[MadInfiltrator]

I think that at one point in ME3, you'll be searching for ways to kill the Reapers. I would assume that this weapon will be one thing that has serious importance, another will be hunting the Leviathan of DIs, and looking into Dark Energy. Also, the Geth are trying to make a Dyson Sphere, which could come into play.

[PARAGON87]

@ MadInfiltrator: I don't think the Dyson Sphere would come to play as really it is a hollow sphere full of every geth program that would form a unique consciousness. Really I can't think of how that can be a weapon.

It is their home, not their superweapon, I would think.

[santaclausemoreau]

PARAGON87 wrote...

@ MadInfiltrator: I don't think the Dyson Sphere would come to play as really it is a hollow sphere full of every geth program that would form a unique consciousness. Really I can't think of how that can be a weapon.
It is their home, not their superweapon, I would think.

The Heretics were offered the shortcut to whatever the Geth were building in the form of a reaper body to upload to.  It seems that if what the Geth are building is similar to a reaper, then it very well could come into play

[PARAGON87]

santaclausemoreau wrote...

PARAGON87 wrote...

@ MadInfiltrator: I don't think the Dyson Sphere would come to play as really it is a hollow sphere full of every geth program that would form a unique consciousness. Really I can't think of how that can be a weapon.
It is their home, not their superweapon, I would think.

The Heretics were offered the shortcut to whatever the Geth were building in the form of a reaper body to upload to.  It seems that if what the Geth are building is similar to a reaper, then it very well could come into play

Well since a Reaper body is the upitome of organic-sythetic life, it would make sense.  But really I think it's a ruse; wouldn't the superior programs within the Reaper (the "nation" Sovereign referred to) just eliminate those geth programs and eventually destroy and assimilate the Heretics?  It seems too good to be true, I'm glad the true geth didn't take that faustian deal.

But what I really meant is that Legion said that they are creating something the equivalent of a Dyson Sphere, which in theory is a solar shell surrounding a star that would collect 100% of its output.  Their sphere would house every geth program in existence, leading them into true unity and consensus, as well as a omnipresent energy source.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Dyson_sphere

Modifié par PARAGON87, 15 juillet 2010 - 04:45 .

[Hellbender041]

Use the Batarian Orbital Mirror System in conjunction with the idea to use mass effect cores to stabilize a planet's orbit. Instead, hyper accelerate the planet through the mirrors, making a crude particle accelerator, and slam it into a reaper. Or two.

[Hellbender041]

Use the Batarian Orbital Mirror System in conjunction with the idea to use mass effect cores to stabilize a planet's orbit. Instead, hyper accelerate the planet through the mirrors, making a crude particle accelerator, and slam it into a reaper. Or two.

[TheScientist]

Who is to say that a Reaper's consciousness/programs/whatever is "better" than Geth programs? It would be interesting if the Geth "think the Reapers to death" somehow.

And, "ah yes," space mirrors... a supposed super-weapon built by Batarians to be used against Reapers. I have dismissed that claim.

Modifié par TheScientist, 15 juillet 2010 - 05:40 .

[adam_grif]

Hellbender041 wrote...

Use the Batarian Orbital Mirror System in conjunction with the idea to use mass effect cores to stabilize a planet's orbit. Instead, hyper accelerate the planet through the mirrors, making a crude particle accelerator, and slam it into a reaper. Or two.

... or maybe they're just focussing mirrors for large, fixed laser installations? Considering that EM radiation (i.e. what lasers fire) ignore kinetic barriers, and the absurdly strong barriers are the ONLY thing that stopped Sovereign from getting blasted to smithereens by the Alliance fleet at the end of ME1, this seems VERY likely.

[TheScientist]

adam_grif wrote...

Hellbender041 wrote...

Use the Batarian Orbital Mirror System in conjunction with the idea to use mass effect cores to stabilize a planet's orbit. Instead, hyper accelerate the planet through the mirrors, making a crude particle accelerator, and slam it into a reaper. Or two.

... or maybe they're just focussing mirrors for large, fixed laser installations? Considering that EM radiation (i.e. what lasers fire) ignore kinetic barriers, and the absurdly strong barriers are the ONLY thing that stopped Sovereign from getting blasted to smithereens by the Alliance fleet at the end of ME1, this seems VERY likely.

They cant aim it everywhere though. So the reapers lose one or two decoy ships as the others flank the installation... or they lose none and surprise attack from behind.

[SandTrout]

MadInfiltrator wrote...

I think that at one point in ME3, you'll be searching for ways to kill the Reapers. I would assume that this weapon will be one thing that has serious importance, another will be hunting the Leviathan of DIs, and looking into Dark Energy. Also, the Geth are trying to make a Dyson Sphere, which could come into play.

One of the better ideas I've read here, from a story perspective. We spent ME1 learning about what the Reapers are and what their goal is. ME2 was spent assembling a team of the most powerful and ruthless individuals in the galaxy. ME3 will be spend searching for the tools of war to kill the Reapers in the coming conflict. As you noted, Mad, there are many of Chekov's Guns lying around in the ME univers waiting to be utilized.

As for those who think the Geth 'Dyson Sphere' is not a weapon, reconsider the nature of the Geth. They are not nieve enough to think that just because they're keeping to themselves, that noone will want to mess with them. Their untimate unified structure will have weapons enough to take on entire fleets of normal craft, and may well be a 1-for-1 match against a Reaper if they get their hands on advanced weapons like the Normandy has. Also, Legion never said it was going to be a true Dyson Sphere, just that it was the closest analog he could use to describe it.

[CroGamer002]

That weapon was probably destroyed.

[adam_grif]

TheScientist wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

Hellbender041 wrote...

Use the Batarian Orbital Mirror System in conjunction with the idea to use mass effect cores to stabilize a planet's orbit. Instead, hyper accelerate the planet through the mirrors, making a crude particle accelerator, and slam it into a reaper. Or two.

... or maybe they're just focussing mirrors for large, fixed laser installations? Considering that EM radiation (i.e. what lasers fire) ignore kinetic barriers, and the absurdly strong barriers are the ONLY thing that stopped Sovereign from getting blasted to smithereens by the Alliance fleet at the end of ME1, this seems VERY likely.

They cant aim it everywhere though. So the reapers lose one or two decoy ships as the others flank the installation... or they lose none and surprise attack from behind.

As opposed to multi-kilometer railguns, which can be aimed everywhere and take an infinite number of reapers? Oh wait, the obviously not since the civilization that built it was wiped out.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

REAPER SPOTTED



FIRE FOX THREE



FOX THREE, FIRING FOR EFFECT:

[Sursion]

Mordin will devise an anti-reaper vaccine in about a month. No worries.

[SandTrout]

Eh, Mordin died in one of my playthroughs. I guess I'm screwed.

[Bogsnot1]

Synchronise all the pulsars in the galaxy and sends the Reapers into seizures.

[CroGamer002]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

REAPER SPOTTED

FIRE FOX THREE

FOX THREE, FIRING FOR EFFECT:

Germans shall save galaxy!

[bottledwater]

what about that planet from ME1 that some people think is storing a planetwide AI? i dont remember the name i just remember coming by it once, that planet will probably have something to do with killing the reapers. idc anyway though, i just KNOW me3 is gonna have some ridiculous deus ex machina that kills the reapers.

[Kaiser Shepard]

At the very least, we could plunge the galaxy into war before the Reapers arrive, to make sure the factions that matter are at the very least more capable than before. If anything, a Council Space vs Terminus Systems war would force the entire galaxy to adapt to top of the line technology such as the Thanix Canon, improve on that and create innovative new weapon that may even top that.

Of course, we could also create a human Genophage just to spite the Reapers.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 16 juillet 2010 - 09:02 .

[lovgreno]

I realy hope there wont be some standard Deus ex Machina from the Collector Base or somewhere else that instantly kills all reapers. Such a tired old cliché.



However if studying that weapon could be used to improve the main guns of dreadnoughts it could realy help. A super thanix for everyone with a dreadnought.

[maegi46]

Well it all boils down to the Reapers need a Reaper inside the milky way to gain control of the Citadel and since we killed the Human Reaper, their efforts are now at a standstill. It took them 2 years to have the Collectors come close to finishing a new Reaper so we can assume that when ME3 comes out they will have constructed another one to try again, or maybe TIM will do it for them when he gets indoctrinated by the Collector base.

[Siansonea]

What I don't understand is why the Reapers in Dark Space don't have a smaller Mass Relay that connects to a relay other than the Citadel Relay, a back door, as it were. That was poor planning on their part. And why is there only one Citadel? There should be five or six of them, interspersed throughout the galaxy. I've often thought that there is probably a Dark Citadel somewhere in the galaxy, accessible only through certain relays, that could easily be a rallying point for Reapers in-galaxy if the main Citadel is blocked somehow. Why wouldn't AIs build a redundancy in their system?

[Nightwriter]

Cerberus found the weapon, too.

I was confused when the Illusive Man first told me about it.

"We wanted to find either the weapon or its target. We found both."

I thought, its target? Well, since there was a great gi-normous rift on Klendagon I mistakenly thought Klendagon was of course its target. Pretty big rift there for it to be collateral damage.

What, was the Reaper sitting there camped on Klendagon at the time the weapon hit?