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[packardbell]

Games4ever wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

If they can not take criticism, so they should to find another job .. when people pay money for something and they are not happy, criticism will come

think they are quite indifferent .. they're stone-rich and laughing all the way down to the bank no matter what we say

So you already payed for DA2? Because if you're referring to the money invested in DA:O, that's a done deal. If you liked it and have no regrets over spending money on it, then there's no reason why you should bring money as an issue.

If you end up buying DA2 and hate it, then you may complain about paying for something you didn't like. Otherwise, don't bring up that argument.

No but I have paid for some DLC's that I wish I never had paid for,was not worth it

Register your games then? I smell a pirate.

You smell wrong then, I don't play games on my PC

How does that stop you from registering the games to your profile?

[Wrexdot]

I'm sure most whiners will buy this game anyway, i can't stop laughing while reading your "Oh mai gat DA2 will suck!@#!#".

[odiedragon]

MadCat221 wrote...

Isabelle Mortello wrote...
Maybe this is Bioware's new signature style. I mean changes with a game can equal greatness. Especially with the best elements from Mass Effect.

The best element of Mass Effect should stay with Mass Effect.  I am expecting more bad news as more details are revealed, considering what happened to ME2 (Improve = Remove, anyone?)

This.  A thousand times this.  Whenever we discuss ME2 at home, a common theme is "Why didn't they fix stuff instead of just removing it?"

None of the details that have come out have been good.  I can see the "signature style" arguement, but that was NOT what I was sold on when they brought out the Dragon Age franchise.

[Games4ever]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

You smell wrong then, I don't play games on my PC

That still doesn't matter. You can register PS3 and 360 copies of the game on this site as well.

Ok, just for you then, I don't pirate anything

[Kohaku]

Games4ever wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

You smell wrong then, I don't play games on my PC

That still doesn't matter. You can register PS3 and 360 copies of the game on this site as well.

Ok, just for you then, I don't pirate anything

I don't care if you do or don't. I was just pointing that out incase you didn't know.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Games4ever wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

If they can not take criticism, so they should to find another job .. when people pay money for something and they are not happy, criticism will come

think they are quite indifferent .. they're stone-rich and laughing all the way down to the bank no matter what we say

So you already payed for DA2? Because if you're referring to the money invested in DA:O, that's a done deal. If you liked it and have no regrets over spending money on it, then there's no reason why you should bring money as an issue.

If you end up buying DA2 and hate it, then you may complain about paying for something you didn't like. Otherwise, don't bring up that argument.

No but I have paid for some DLC's that I wish I never had paid for,was not worth it

Yes you paid for DAO DLCs..

Your complaint is like saying "I bought Pinnacle Station in ME and it wasn't available in ME2, I was cheated!!"

No, you weren't. they are different games with different sets of DLCs. THe DLC's you bought are perfectly good for the game they were intended for. Nothing in them was ever going to carry forward to a sequel.

[Oldenglishcdr]

GD4EVA wrote...

Oldenglishcdr wrote...

I give up - *rolls eyes*

Well, if you give up so easily, then your idea will never gain understanding and recognition. Or are you too good to exert your efforts on us us "unenlightened"?
(Note: Guilt Trip)

Let's try this again. What part of the word "research" do you not understand or were you one of those not listening in class?

Let me explain, use research to discover or verify information to enlighten yourself. Hence prior to purchasing any future game one can be pretty sure of not wasting ones time or money.

Make sense no?

[Narreneth]

Oldenglishcdr wrote...

GD4EVA wrote...

Oldenglishcdr wrote...

I give up - *rolls eyes*

Well, if you give up so easily, then your idea will never gain understanding and recognition. Or are you too good to exert your efforts on us us "unenlightened"?
(Note: Guilt Trip)

Let's try this again. What part of the word "research" do you not understand or were you one of those not listening in class?

Let me explain, use research to discover or verify information to enlighten yourself. Hence prior to purchasing any future game one can be pretty sure of not wasting ones time or money.

Make sense no?

No.  You are rambling incoherently.  There is no research that is going to "enlighten" you beyond knowing a few tidbits at this point.

[Narreneth]

odiedragon wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

STOP BEING SO HARSH!!! DA2 was announces less than a week ago and so far all that has been released is half an A4 page of text and 2 screenshots from an alpha build. From this the community seems to have decided the game is going to be terrible! It seems these days that Bioware can't do anything right (in the communities eyes at least) and it's going to reach the point where they're going to ditch there community first approach because it just isn't worth it.

Please just wait until you actually have some info about DA2 before being down on it. I'll offer an example, it's like saying a movie is terrible from looking at 2 pictures from the storyboard and reading the blurb for it in the newspaper.

This arguement again.

What do you call what we've already been given?  A pack of lies?  An April fools trick?  Bioware pointing and laughing at us?

We HAVE information.  And I for one am very displeased with what I see.

Saying that we have information in a way that tries to justify the idiotic knee-jerk "I know everything about DA2" reaction we've been seeing is like saying you have information on Moby Dick because you heard there was a white whale at some point and more than likely a guy named Ahab that may or may not get that thar whale.

[Layn]

Ecael wrote...

People have different tastes in games, but to act as if there's only one single true "taste" and that everyone else is just sheep isn't very understanding at all.

One single glance at a product and you're already implying that the game is ruined. Why should BioWare cater to these types of "fans" when they're never going to be satisfied anyway?

i'm not implying that the product is ruined. Just less fun for me, and a lot less fun for others.

the problem is that we of similar opinions get all lumped together. All i want to say is that it was incredibly amazing as it was before and i had hoped it would use the same system for DA2. However the details they've revealed make me quite certain that i will be more detached from DA2 compared to DA:O. Everything after that was trying to explain to those who keep complaining about "whiners" that indeed we can already know that for us specifically the game will probably be less immersive.

oh well. i'll just wait now, since the things i care about probably won't be changed. I'll give my opinion that can't just be dismissed because "there aren't enough details" after having played through the game. All i care about right now is that bioware finally put together a good collector's edition. i haven't been too impressed with the previous ones.

[leader1]

what the people who are disappointed are saying is that for what the information released so far, the game is SIGNIFICANTLY different from DA:O.

and that doesn't sit well for those who liked the system in the first game.
hopefully BW will release more information to enlighten us about DA2.

Modifié par leader1, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:50 .

[Oldenglishcdr]

Narreneth wrote...

Oldenglishcdr wrote...

GD4EVA wrote...

Oldenglishcdr wrote...

I give up - *rolls eyes*

Well, if you give up so easily, then your idea will never gain understanding and recognition. Or are you too good to exert your efforts on us us "unenlightened"?
(Note: Guilt Trip)

Let's try this again. What part of the word "research" do you not understand or were you one of those not listening in class?

Let me explain, use research to discover or verify information to enlighten yourself. Hence prior to purchasing any future game one can be pretty sure of not wasting ones time or money.

Make sense no?

No.  You are rambling incoherently.  There is no research that is going to "enlighten" you beyond knowing a few tidbits at this point.

No you are the one rambling from your rear and know fine well what I mean. Prior to DA2 getting released there will be ample time in between now and March 2011 for us to learn more as Bioware has already mentioned, where they will be revealing more and more to us all. So with that in mind all of us will have time to research the game based on what's available to us, and then when the game is available we can all verify this by reviews, internet forums, word of mouth.

Modifié par Oldenglishcdr, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:55 .

[Layn]

but what will it really change? they've said their goal is to make a more cinematic game. cinematic experiences are less immersive for me. I know that. no amount of text or videos can change my mind on that. the only thing that can do that is when i get to try the game.



that said, will DA2 be at the gamescom?

[bzombo]

Atomic Space Vixen wrote...

So let me see if I have this right... Wait until it's too late to make a difference to let our concerns be known.

Sure. Okay.

to make a difference you need information. that is something we do not yet have. game informer gets their exclusive, and then we start to find out more. that aside, how much of a difference do you really think you'll make? players make a difference when it comes to things just were a problem in a previous game for the most part. do you really think they're going to change something they're doing that you haven't tried yet just because you say no? of course not.

[mr_nameless]

Common this a so called "RPG" and you only get to control ONE character, he's HUMAN and called HAWKE?? Give me a break! At least let us change the name. ROFL.

[Ecael]

Crrash wrote...

Ecael wrote...

People have different tastes in games, but to act as if there's only one single true "taste" and that everyone else is just sheep isn't very understanding at all.

One single glance at a product and you're already implying that the game is ruined. Why should BioWare cater to these types of "fans" when they're never going to be satisfied anyway?

i'm not implying that the product is ruined. Just less fun for me, and a lot less fun for others.

the problem is that we of similar opinions get all lumped together. All i want to say is that it was incredibly amazing as it was before and i had hoped it would use the same system for DA2. However the details they've revealed make me quite certain that i will be more detached from DA2 compared to DA:O. Everything after that was trying to explain to those who keep complaining about "whiners" that indeed we can already know that for us specifically the game will probably be less immersive.

oh well. i'll just wait now, since the things i care about probably won't be changed. I'll give my opinion that can't just be dismissed because "there aren't enough details" after having played through the game. All i care about right now is that bioware finally put together a good collector's edition. i haven't been too impressed with the previous ones.

It's a lot less fun for others if you start trying to define what is fun (or what is an RPG, but that's a different thread) for others on the forum. Some enjoy BioWare's products regardless of the gameplay or story changes they make to it. Some will disapprove at first and buy it, others will disapprove and never buy it.

I have never played Dragon Age: Awakening, nor was I intending to buy an expansion so soon after the release of Dragon Age: Origins. But I didn't complain - I simply didn't buy it and moved on to other games.

[Heimdall]

mr_nameless wrote...

Common this a so called "RPG" and you only get to control ONE character, he's HUMAN and called HAWKE?? Give me a break! At least let us change the name. ROFL.

You do get to name your character, you just can't choose surname.  Just. Like. Origins.  NPCs just have something to call your character besides "Warden"  (Which wouldn't even work in this one anyway)  And you still get to pick gender and customize appearance and choose class.  How is this not an RPG?

[Layn]

Ecael wrote...

It's a lot less fun for others if you start trying to define what is fun (or what is an RPG, but that's a different thread) for others on the forum. Some enjoy BioWare's products regardless of the gameplay or story changes they make to it. Some will disapprove at first and buy it, others will disapprove and never buy it.

I have never played Dragon Age: Awakening, nor was I intending to buy an expansion so soon after the release of Dragon Age: Origins. But I didn't complain - I simply didn't buy it and moved on to other games.

i'm sorry, but i don't see anyone claiming that DA2 will be less fun for EVERYONE, just how they expect it to be for themselves. no one is defining what is fun for others. And it's frustrating when people take conclusions like you do.

i played awakening. i bought it because it's a bioware game and would probably good. it was a massive disappointment, but a massive disappointment of a bioware game is overall still good. I bought it. played it, said what i didn't like. I really don't see what is so bad about telling bioware what you find worse in the next chapter of their series. Sure, they are really good at what they do, but they don't know the players point of view

[BallaZs]

Don't be sorry for them.

I feel sorry for those 'fans' who bring down hell to the game based on those infos we have so far..

No offense, just stating my opinion.

[uberdowzen]

Once again I'm amazed by how many replies there have been (don't have time to read them all) but would like to point out that I saw a post that says that the dynamic combat essentially means that characters won't do that awkward get into the right position thing before they'll use a skill.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/3127248/1

Modifié par uberdowzen, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:27 .

[Games4ever]

I really only feel sorry for those who believe there is a god :-)

[17thknight]

Narreneth wrote...
Saying that we have information in a way that tries to justify the idiotic knee-jerk "I know everything about DA2" reaction we've been seeing is like saying you have information on Moby Dick because you heard there was a white whale at some point and more than likely a guy named Ahab that may or may not get that thar whale.

No, it's like having the information you would have on the back of a book.

Let's say you read a science-fiction book by an author and you loved it. You love space-opera and couldn't wait for the next. When the next book came out, you ran to the store, looked at the back, and read how it is "a romantic comedy, set in the tone of Twilight".  You wouldn't need "more information". You wouldn't need to read the book. By that blurb alone you would know you wanted nothing to do with it.

We have information and the information that we have is bad. It isn't like people are making any of this up. We know exactly what Bioware has told us and we don't like it. What is your suggestion, we wait until the game is released before we speak up about our concerns and anger? By then it's futile, because nothing can be changed, but when the game is probably not even in alpha you can actually change the direction it is moving in. THAT is what we are trying to do.

Modifié par 17thknight, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:32 .

[Stanley Woo]

Too much fighting going on in this forum. Please take your discussion to one of the other threads discussion the announcement, such as the "complaining about a game announced a week ago?" thread or the "the why and how" thread. thank you.



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