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[lady_lunatic]

oooh this sounds good!!

[slowdive.fan]

Maybe a playable demo of chapters 1-2 ?

[Luminus]

slowdive.fan wrote...

Maybe a playable demo of chapters 1-2 ?

Well BGR is a few months away from being released so a demo is not really practical at this point.
What would be really nice though is if we got some screenshots of major battles or cutscenes and/or a gameplay video. I believe it's now or never.

[steelfire_dragon]

A demo would still work.

A GAG demo.

imagine the pc walking up to Minsc and have Minsc state" And Now from the book of Austin Chapter 3 verse 16 or something ....

something to laugh at

[drechner]

We'll have a trailer posted in the next few months. As for the time being, I still owe you guys some screenshots of Baldur's Gate city...

[Elanareon]

WOW!!! This is the first time i've heard about this... Good thing its months until release, im excited!

[Elanareon]

Will you continue up until BG2? LOL i guess that's too much to ask...

[Shallina]

There is a team dedicated to do BG2 into DAO engine. Don't know how they progress, but they have done a good job until now for what they have done.

[Luminus]

As much as I find the DAO remake very cool, I would prefer if it was made for NwN2. Why?

Because:
1. Then we could take our BGR character and continue in BG2R and ToB.

2. DAO has so few races, classes and spells that almost all have to be made from scratch.

3. The NPC limit is 4 and I don't know if it's hardcoded or not. Which means less tactical and banter variety.

4. You start at 1st level in BG2Redux. Which means most have similar stats. Imoen could be made to have twice the strength of Minsc for example. Though this can also be changed by having you start at 8-10 level like in BG2.

5. Every monster has to be made from scratch also and animated. And BG2 has MANY monsters.

6. Unless they recreate the death and health system, every dead character rises after the battle and health automatically regenerates which is a killer for me.

7. It would take forever for everything to be ready when they could use resources from NwN2 and BGR.

8. I read they will make custom voice overs for every dialogue and BG2 has LOTS of dialogue. And many purists may not like it when they hear NPCs changing their voice on every dialogue.
 
A NwN2 remake just feels more natural since they are both DnD and all the races and classes are available.

I played their first module (Irenicus Dungeon) and everything looks amazing except the things I mentioned above.

Still we have to wait and see how things evolve. I just hope they remain as faithful to BG2 as possible.

And well if it took you guys around 5 years (2006) to make BGR, BG2R could be made in half or even less the time since, as Shallina said, SO many things could be reused and now you are so much more experienced.

Also BG1 has around 55 areas on map if we count the BG city districts, BG2 is around 23 not counting ToB. That's around 1/2 the number of areas.

Modifié par Luminus, 20 mai 2011 - 08:31 .

[kamal_]

I'll eat my hat if the DAO team ever releases a full BG2 with everything implemented (like spells). Last I'd checked they had finished... Irenicus' dungeon. There is just way too much to be done.

[slowdive.fan]

In order for a BG2 to be done in NWN2 what would really be needed is a very skilled programmer to write some utilities to automate as much of the work as possible (like the conversation converter by Sothis B and 0100010's FXE creator have done). Possible ideas: automatically create and attach conversation scripts to conversations, area scripts, custom item blueprints, custom creature blueprints, etc. If the building effort was mostly spent on area design, custom tilesets, custom creature models, scripting (and not the other things that could be automated) things will move along much faster. Plus, a small group could be working on the main path and other builders could add in the side quests/areas at anytime.

[Shallina]

There is a full Irenicus dunjeon + Waukeen promenade, functional and all remade in NWN2.

I have many thing done for a BG2 remake in NWN2, so if someone is interested into working on this project, he should contact me.

there is also the exteriors area for the slum done.

Be for now the focus is clearly to finish BGR+ TOSC.

TOSC is fully done and functional.
BGR is done up to act 5 for now.

Also all the "core script" for a BG like game into NWN2 as been made and are used into BGR, so they won't have to be written again. (Game over when player char die,every char in pârty can speak with NPC, no auto rez by the god like we can see in NWN2 OC+ vanilla, even the accidental one we see in SOZ has been removed).

Full sound conversion. well many thing can be used, but it's a monster work, and the full remake won't be done by one and only modder.


BGR is possible beceause we are 2 almost full time while not at work + 1 that gives a lot of his spare spare time + 1 modeler + the monster work of RWS on custom tileset and placeable that really fit into BGR world.

For a BG2 remake  2 or 3 modder with lot of time and dedication are required + extra staff that can give actual work even if it's not around 20 to 40 hours each week..

Modifié par Shallina, 20 mai 2011 - 09:33 .

[Elanareon]

I was really hoping for the continuation of the two, just like the BGmod did back then. Where you can continue from bg1 to 2 without changing discs.. The BG continuation mod.. lol I really forgot the name of the mod.

[The Fred]

Elanareon wrote...
I was really hoping for the continuation of the two, just like the BGmod did back then. Where you can continue from bg1 to 2 without changing discs.. The BG continuation mod.. lol I really forgot the name of the mod.

Baldur's Gate Trilogy. There is also TuTu, which will let you play BG1 with the BG2 engine.

slowdive.fan wrote...
In order for a BG2 to be done in NWN2 what would really be needed is a very skilled programmer to write some utilities to automate as much of the work as possible (like the conversation converter by Sothis B and 0100010's FXE creator have done).

This would probably not actually be all that hard, maybe converting all the conversation scripts etc would be tricky but the Infinity file formats are pretty well known and understood by now, so I reckon you could have item converters and so on pretty easily (though item converting is easy to do by hand anyway, if you open the BG files in something like Near Infinity where you can copy and paste the descriptions etc).

[Eguintir Eligard]

I'll eat my hat if the DAO team ever releases a full BG2 with everything
implemented (like spells). Last I'd checked they had finished...
Irenicus' dungeon. There is just way too much to be done.

I'll eat my hat if this BG1 project ever releases. It's taken up 30 threads to the max in 2 forums over 4 years and its nothing but talk of a chapter 1 demo. IWD remake has gotten much farther with less people and less time. And its chock full of realistic custom placeables for the IWD world.

[Shallina]

BGR is more advanced than IWD it's just that we wants to release something complete.

and BG isn't lienar, wich mean it's difficult to release chapter one after the other.

We are at full chapter 5 for script and almost at chapter 7 for area.

The "big task" left is to script the city. 90% of the exterior area done and scripted, all Bereghost, Friendly arm inn, nashkell interior, exterior and surrounding are done.

BGR will be released

As for the staff it's hard to say we are more numerous than IWD actually  since we are 2 involved since one year, and got a 3d one recently They are 2 as well for IWD.

Modifié par Shallina, 21 mai 2011 - 10:09 .

[0ts0]

Can't wait! Need moar screenies!

[slowdive.fan]

BGR is probably about 5 to 6 times the amount of work as IWD. With the experience I have with remaking IWD, I am in awe of the amount of effort that has gone into the BGR project and yes it will be released (as will IWD...IWD will be done by the end of July). IWD has been about 2 or 3 at the most, but has been mostly just me for the last few chapters, the volunteers have pretty much disappeared since my return (just Hitmanen for a few areas). Again, this is possible because IWD is less work than BGR by far. As Shallina said, IWD is very linear so it is possible to release a chapter at a time. Since BG has so many exterior areas, it'll be fun to add Hellfire's mountable horses to BGR .

Modifié par slowdive.fan, 22 mai 2011 - 12:49 .

[Shallina]

I wait for IWD, wanna play the full thing

IWD funished at the end of July ? it will probably be done before BGR then

[Luminus]

Eguintir Eligard wrote...

I'll eat my hat if this BG1 project ever releases. It's taken up 30 threads to the max in 2 forums over 4 years and its nothing but talk of a chapter 1 demo. IWD remake has gotten much farther with less people and less time. And its chock full of realistic custom placeables for the IWD world.

I hope you know how to cook hats then. There aren't many recipes around last I checked.
Actually it's taken 10 threads (says so above, duh).

Baldur's Gate is a huge game. Bigger even than Baldur's Gate 2 I think, not sure since I haven't finished it yet. It's taken me around 2-3 months of casual play to finish it and Icewind Dale only took 1-1/2 months only.

Also what rock were you living under? The demo is only a basic sample. Did you see drechner's screenshots? The huge amount of detail in every area both interior and exterior.

As I said Icewind Dale only has 1/3 the number of areas and is a much smaller game. They are in 3-4 chapter right now (correct me if I'm wrong) not counting Heart of Winter or Trials of the Luremaster (are you guys including them?).

So many remakes of various classics were tried again and again by fans and many of them were abandoned. (German Icewind Dale Remake, Baldur's Gate for NwN1 etc)
Remaking a project of this magnitude requires immense discipline and determination, more so if it's mostly done by 1-3 people.

Modifié par Luminus, 22 mai 2011 - 05:01 .

[lady_lunatic]

seems theres a bit of bashing going on! lol

[deserk]

Such great work done here, delighted to hear of the progress.

I never got to try the BG and Icewind Dale games properly as I've been a bit too hindered by the outdated graphics, but I've always wanted to experience them as others have. So I really can't wait to play this.

These remakes are a great idea. I'm currently very much enjoying the Icewind Dale remake.

Modifié par deserk, 22 mai 2011 - 05:00 .

[The Fred]

Eguintir Eligard wrote...
I'll eat my hat if this BG1 project ever releases. It's taken up 30 threads to the max in 2 forums over 4 years and its nothing but talk of a chapter 1 demo.

I don't mean to labour the point, but did you ever actually play BG? The chapters aren't chapters in the way they were in NWN, especially NWN1 - Chapter 1, you're in Neverwinter, Chapter 2, you're in Port Lllast, etc. In BG you can visit almost anywhere in the game in any chapter (not the Bandit Camp before Ch 3, Cloakwood before Ch 4, BG before Ch 5 or Candlekeep before Ch 6 apart from the start, etc, but all the wilderness areas and side-quests, of which there are many - even the TotSC dungeons could be completed in Ch 1). Ch 2 simply signifies that you've reach Nashkel, and so is mechanically the same as Ch 1.

I mean, I will be amazed to see a BG remake get released, finally, but to be honest I'm already amazed that you guys have come so far with it. BG is pretty awesome and being able to play it on two engines at once will be twice as awesome. All I really need is something which will convert saved games between NWN2 and BG formats.

[drechner]

Unfortunately, the demo is quite dated at this point and really isn't a good indicator on where the project currently is. I think, without a doubt, not only do the areas look 5-10 times better, but the scripting that Shallina has implemented really makes a huge difference. Add in SFX from the original game, an overland map that looks near-identical to the original, and actually quite a bit of custom content (you'll get to see some this week)--heads for NPCs, various placeables, lots of BCK structures (not entirely custom, I know).

Slowdive's work has been nothing short of incredible, but I think the BG experience will be different--not better, but different in the various ways people have mentioned. I hope our community can enjoy both when they come out this year

BG city is really the last real "hurdle" we have to jump; it's a big one unfortunately, but I'll be able to share some screens with you guys this week and you can see for yourselves

Modifié par drechner, 23 mai 2011 - 02:59 .

[acedealer]

Eguintir Eligard wrote...

I'll eat my hat if the DAO team ever releases a full BG2 with everything
implemented (like spells). Last I'd checked they had finished...
Irenicus' dungeon. There is just way too much to be done.

I'll eat my hat if this BG1 project ever releases. It's taken up 30 threads to the max in 2 forums over 4 years and its nothing but talk of a chapter 1 demo. IWD remake has gotten much farther with less people and less time. And its chock full of realistic custom placeables for the IWD world.

If I remember correctly, you've been complaining about this project almost since the beginning. Originally you argued that a remake was not a good use of time or talent and that people should concentrate more on original projects. Nice to see you've changed your tune somewhat by acknowledging the IWD remake. That these remake projects still get tremendous levels of attention after all these years is all the proof you need for why they should get our support.

Now that the project is nearing completion after a lot of hard work, you're back again, aiming to spoil the mood once more. You knew you didn't like the idea years ago (literally), and that was fine! We heard you the first time and we respected that opinion but we moved on anyways. Now just let us be and go do something else...like complain about how Dragon Age 2 doesn't meet your standards or how the latest Taylor Swift album is a disappointment. After you're done munching on your hat, of course.