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#5501
Serg BlackStrider

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Gate70 wrote...

I can't (so far) find portraits for Blackstrider or Cassia (found the latter before but no luck yesterday).

Alesia, any weapon proficiencies and thieving skills for level 1, assuming we start with Gorion.


I've placed the link for my char and portraits files in my post under the image. Just download them. And I've made Grond' and Cassia' portraits by cutting them from the images they posted.

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@Gate70

On the Bhaalspawn. I was assuming that we would each be the bhaalspwn in our respective parties so, Grond in Grond0's party, Alesia in mine, etc. Does that make sense to everyone else?

On Alesia's proficiencies and thieving skills. Start her with Darts and then layer on whatever you like form there. Feel free to allocate thieving skills as you desire.

@Everyone Else- It seems we've implicitly decided to start in Candlekeep. Shall I reserve a table for 5 at Winthrop's? Or can we make that 6 (hint, hint: act soon Potty1)?

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Alesia wrote...On the Bhaalspawn. I was assuming that we would each be the bhaalspwn in our respective parties so, Grond in Grond0's party, Alesia in mine, etc. Does that make sense to everyone else?

Make sence. :)

It seems we've implicitly decided to start in Candlekeep. Shall I reserve a table for 5 at Winthrop's? Or can we make that 6 (hint, hint: act soon Potty1)?

As you already know, I personally vote for Candlekeep. And if there will be only Five of us in the end we could spare the vacant place for the NPC of a choice, temporal or permanent (ex.: I don't want to murder Valygar to enter Planar Sphere...). Just a thought...:blush:

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I recently shot my mouth off that I'll probably never install BG1 again, but I vote Candlekeep with trilogy. I need to re-install so I shall remain the laggard, sorry.

As far as I can see the group is:
Cassia (ussnorway) Gnome Lawful Neutral Shapeshifter STATS? PROFS?
BlackStrider Half-Elf Neutral Good Blade 13 17 16 15 13 15 * Long Sword, Short Bow
Alesia Elf Chaotic Good Mage/Thief 7 11 8 15 14 12 PROFS?
Grond0 RACE? Archer Lawful good13 13 14 12 14 8 ** short bow, 2 weapon * flail, single weapon
Krimlor (Gate70) Dwarf Chaotic Good Fighter/Cleric 14 12 16 14 13 8 ** sling, hammer

I did that test, and got the following 

It's pretty close between mage, bard and druid, but we already have a bard and druid, and only half a mage, so I'll go with that. Feel free to take a kit, or change to sorceror.

Pot
Human
Chaotic Good 
Mage 
11 14 13 15 10 9
* quarterstaff, 2-handed weapon, sling/dart (how many points?)

Do we all build the same group, and then progress as we see fit, or do we try to follow the same path etc?

Modifié par The Potty 1, 21 janvier 2013 - 11:05 .


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Good to see you with us at last, Potty :happy: So we finally have The Motley Crue gathered!
Do you have some preferred portrait for your Mage?

@ussnorway: to create Cassia I rolled half-elven Shapeshifter in the game and then changed alignment, race and saving throws for wand/spell (+4) in Shadow Keeper. What else do I need to do for her to develop properly?

Modifié par Serg BlackStrider, 21 janvier 2013 - 12:16 .


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Sorry, tried that link earlier and didn't realise.

I now have all portraits apart from Pot and all characters apart from the werecat glittersnap (which I have no objection to but am unsure if/how I would use, but that's the fun).

edit. I'm going to wait for the Cassia override files, assume they'll come with a chr file too.

+ a couple more to clarify.
Grond is human.
Level 1 mage gets 1 weapon proficiency so does Pot want staff, sling, dart or 2HWS.
Alesia should have dart + a 2nd weapon proficiency so could state that too so we start consistently. Presumably Cassia will be supplied with some.
Starting arcane spell selections - stated or individual choice.

Modifié par Gate70, 21 janvier 2013 - 01:35 .


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Gate70 wrote...
I'm going to wait for the Cassia override files, assume they'll come with a chr file too.


So am I. That would be the best approach.

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I'm generally happy with Edwin's BG1 portrait, otherwise I can choose something from a portrait pack, or leave it up to you. OK from the ultimate portrait pack, Mage12, Mage24, or Misc28. I'll choose darts or daggers at level 1, so I can load up with throwing daggers from the skellies at high hedge.

Regarding mods, I'm trying something new. Trilogy, then the fix- & tweakpacks, no SCS, instead dingo's XP fixer at 10% for quests, spells, & traps, & 50% for kills.

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Serg BlackStrider wrote...

Gate70 wrote...
I'm going to wait for the Cassia override files, assume they'll come with a chr file too.


So am I. That would be the best approach.

I'm not sure whether that will cause problems, e.g. with the game realising that a character is illegal when levelling up.  I've followed ussnorway's suggestion of changing the clsrcreq.2da file in the override folder to give the ability for gnomes to be shapeshifters (change the 0 to a 1 in the relevant row / column).  It's also necessary to make a similar change to the ALIGNMNT.2da in order to make lawful neutral a valid choice for alignment.

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I don't have that 2da file (edit, clsrcreq.2da - I have the alignment file) in my BGT install. Just searched and no sign of it in BG2 either but can find it in my IWDinBG2 install. Why do I get the feeling I'm going to have to do another install.

edit.
"The file CLSRCREQ.2da doesn't exist in the vanilla game, you'll only find it in your overide if you're using ToBEx."

Source from Polytope social.bioware.com/forum/Baldur039s-Gate-1-and-2/Baldur039s-Gate-General-Discussion-No-Spoilers-Allowed/Elven-Bard-9045401-1.html

Modifié par Gate70, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:51 .


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Makes sense - that will be the mechanism to allow the mod to easily open up all class restrictions.  I'll leave it to others more knowledgeable than me to work out how to overcome the engine restrictions without ToBEx then:blink:.

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I expect it is safer to add ToBEx. From memory 4 of you already use SCS but I vaguely recall Potty doesn't?

Modifié par Gate70, 21 janvier 2013 - 06:23 .


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I'm at work now but I'll upload some char files when I get home tonight... IMO thats the best way to add her in.

Does any one need her to be a plain Druid i.e. running basic bg1 or is eveyone happy with BG2 type files... tutu and the like?

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Great! We have 6 confirmed now. And it seems we are in agreement about starting in Candlekeep.

Shall we wish Sergio the best in his BG2 run and migrate over to the BG1 forum?

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ussnorway wrote...
I'm at work now but I'll upload some char files when I get home tonight... IMO thats the best way to add her in.

Does any one need her to be a plain Druid i.e. running basic bg1 or is eveyone happy with BG2 type files... tutu and the like?


Aye, that would be the safest way. And as I could presume BG2 type files will be sufficient.

@Alesia: I agree - it's time to revive the BG1 thread! :)

Modifié par Serg BlackStrider, 22 janvier 2013 - 06:20 .


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Installing Cassia into your game

The bad news first;
The current versions of bg from GoG have a bug in the char saves setup that makes it impossible to save your game with a new char... they know about it and will probably get around to fixing it soon.

In the mean time;
Loading from a blank save works almost as good

Step 1 download Cassia from here... unzip it and drop the files into the game folders of the same name i.e. put the portraits into your portraits folder.


Step 2 when you are ready to add her into your starting group press import and setlect her from the saved games.
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Step 3 transfer the save game from your mpsave folder back to your save folder.

Step 4 to add the extra spell, use Shadowkeeper to add an innate spell... press filter spells type "project" in the box and tick 'match spell name' and  look for ‘GltSnp’ in the resource list then press the max button once so that you can cast it once per day.
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p.s. Are we going no-reload in the bg1 forum or making a new post? :wub:

Modifié par ussnorway, 22 janvier 2013 - 09:37 .


#5517
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ussnorway wrote...
p.s. Are we going no-reload in the bg1 forum or making a new post? :wub:


No Reload.

Aside form just having fun, the point is to revitalize the No Reload Challenge threads. We'll start in the NR BG1 thread and then (hopefully) graduate and join Sergio here. Ideally, others will choose to join in on the fun.

Best,

A.


NW: The fallen should feel free to use the minimal reload challenge threads of course, but let's try to be careful: don't get your friends killed folks!

#5518
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Okay, looks like we are finally ready to go! I've already created our Motley Crue (in the same order we generated/entered here) and it looks quite promising (Cassia's Project Image appeared under the spells button, not the innate one, but that's fine for me). 
So see ya all in the BG1 No Reload Challenge thread, friends! :happy: 

Modifié par Serg BlackStrider, 22 janvier 2013 - 01:12 .


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Serg BlackStrider wrote...
(Cassia's Project Image appeared under the spells button, not the innate one, but that's fine for me). 
 


That's where it should be i.e. she can't do it while shifted... would too powerful IMO.

p.s. I like your first come first served idea for the party make-up so I will shamelessly pinch it from you Serg BlackStrider... Last one to the FAI has to pay the tap ok guys? :wub:

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Yes, great idea. Unfortunately my lot have just arrived in the wrong order. Six tables for six booked, (and 6 tankards of ale per seat). The devil is in the detail.

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36 tankards of ale each? Well I have a constitution of 13 so I should just get alcohol poisoning and hurl on the flowers, but Alesia's gonna need a drip.

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36 tankards between the 6 Pot's.

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Ah. finally I understand. Possibly the 10 wisdom is a little generous.

On that note I just checked all our respective wisdoms, and it appears I was the only one daft enough to think I had to drink all 36 just because they're there. FUNNY ONE. So hold the drip, just a jug of water and some painkillers for me thanks. I will get you for this.

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Reminder to you Trilogy No-Reloaders: If you have done a Trilgoy no-reload run, please PM me with the details (character name/race/class/notable mods/your user name). If you have a link to your final post that would certainly be helpful.

And I have also updated the Trilogy list with Gate70's successful Trilogy run with Pendal. Wasn't sure how to include Grond0 there, so just noted he assisted.

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Legions Update 5 (continued from BG1)

This is a run with a full self-generated party.  All the characters are constructed for power-gaming to try and give me the best chance of success.  That made things rather too easy in BG1 and I was using various restrictions to provide a bit more challenge (like not allowing the use of healing / antidote potions).  I don't expect to continue with those restrictions in BG2.

The Legions swept through the dungeon with no trouble.  All encounters attempted, but unfortunately Ulvaryl managed to turn into bat form so I missed out on her XP.

Currently the Legions are looking at the circus wondering who is going to feed the lions.

Party stats (continued from BG1)
Optio, F7 / D8, 78 HPs, 317 kills, 3 deaths (one to Shoal)
Vexillarius, Blade 10, 60 HPs, 98 kills, 1 death
Auxiliary, Bounty Hunter 10, 49 HPs, 126 kills
Caesar (protagonist), Berserker 8, 89 HPs, 342 kills
Centurion, Priest of Lathander 8, 52 HPs, 84 kills, 1 death
Legate, Kensai 8, 89 HPs, 246 kills

Modifié par Grond0, 29 janvier 2013 - 06:51 .