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#6976
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Serg BlackStrider wrote...
Of course I'm listening :) What would be your decision? Kick out Cassia and continue as a Five?


Yes. I'd continue the run, but I'd accept Cassia's death.

The No Reload Challenge has always made an exception for bugs: Bugs can justify reloads at the player's discretion. That said, the term bug in this context has typically been construed to mean a transient anomaly that unintentionaly breaks establshed functionality within the game world or in the alternative a gamebreaking design flaw that unambiguously perverts developer intent.

An example of the former would be the Tobex magic damage resistance bug that I and Saint of Sinners encountered. In that case, a programming error in an engine hack mod unintentionally broke the established functionality of magic damage resistance in our installs. An example of the latter might the death script issue that occasionally makes principles like Abazigal unkillable. 

In Cassia's case we have something different. We have long standing functionality that some of us didn't know about and that we speculate may have been unintentional. Cassia's death strikes me as a lesson learned rather than a justification for a reload. I'd continue my run, and submit a report on the G3 forums so the issue could be investigated for future editions of the fixpack. If the functionality really bothered me, I'd consider a mod for future runs that would be explicitly mentioned in my mod list.   

That's just my opinion though: Do what makes sense to you, and I will support your decision.

As for adding Bioware NPCs, I'd probably pass but not on principle: I'd just prefer playing with the reduced crew.

If I really felt the need for a 6th, then I'd consider giving a forumite who didn't get a chance to be a part of the original Avatars run a chance to sub in.  Rumor has it that that paladin down in the sewers is named Keldorn, but he could be Corey Russell. And who knows: if you hang around the remnants from the Cult of the Eyeless, you may meet a Blind_Visionary. (You get the idea) I'd only do this with their permission though of course.

Anyhoo. Once again, that's just my take: I support whatever decision you make. Happy travels!

Best,

A.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 21 juillet 2013 - 02:13 .


#6977
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Sorry to hear about Dunderfoot Gate. I was sort of expecting him to make it. :(

It's hard to say what happened based on the description.

The save of Sphere of Chaos Disintegrate is unmodified so you should have made it at -2 assuming you hadn't been tagged with Malison. Had you been Malisoned? Did you see the Sphere of Chaos animation in the original run? In the alternative, do you remember her incantation?

Harm of course can take you down quick even if you have an HP total in the 200s- assuming you aren't using the SCS version which "nerfs" it to 150 damage (and even then a follow up PW:K can make it virtually instantaneous).

Anyhoo. Sorry for your loss once again. Best of luck in your next run!

A.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 21 juillet 2013 - 01:46 .


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Poseur - dwarf swashbuckler

Poseur made it through BG1 a couple of days ago.  As there I thought I would progress just using very brief real-time updates.  One consequence of that is that I want a decent time in each session - say 2-3 hours, so progress might be a bit more intermittent than normal for me.

Here's his starting record in the dungeon.
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Modifié par Grond0, 21 juillet 2013 - 03:57 .


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Talking to the genie got Poseur to L10 - just the 3 HPs though so ended 5.5 below average.

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Acquired a shortbow and long sword +1. Without DUHM I decided to use traps on the golems to be safe.

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Doors have been opened and jailkeep golem killed with staff +1. Used horror and vampiric touch several times already.

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Made a mistake in BG1 in not getting DUHM. That could be a problem as can't disarm the spike trap guarding the portal key with only 70% in find traps.

Edit: used vampiric touch to up HPs to a reasonably safe 77 and triggered the trap. 

Modifié par Grond0, 21 juillet 2013 - 04:25 .


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Used horror to split up Ilyich and the duergar and no problems there.

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Had a scare in the elemental plane when I thought the steam mephit had been killed, but it had just been scared and ran away. When seeing it again Poseur finished it off, but not before it released a boiling rain storm that stunned him. He went down to 20+ HPs before recovering to finish off the last of the mephitis.

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Gaining 'his' sword back got Poseur to L11 - hopefully he will have no more problems with traps now!

Modifié par Grond0, 21 juillet 2013 - 08:51 .


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Mephit portals are down. Despite the Claw of Kazgoroth getting his save down to 2 Poseur went to sleep against the radiant mephit's colour spray. However, it was on its own by then and could do little damage before Poseur completed its portal destruction.

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Vampiric touch bounced off the clone's spell turning, which was a bit careless. However, Poseur managed to hide and get a decisive horror away.

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Poseur spent too long trying to attack Ulvaryl and failed to use the firebreath potion, that might have finished her off, before she completed her assassinations and flapped off in bat shape.

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Poseur has escaped from the dungeon and survived the first of many cut-scenes. I won't be bothering with any stealing in this run, so the action will continue shortly.

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Kalah didn't last long against VT and the circus has been restored to normal operation.

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Cohrvale & Bregg were trapped and Amalas horrified as an appetiser for the Copper Coronet. The Beastmaster and his crew were easy enough and Poseur got up to L12 for killing Lehtinan.

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Met Suna Seni on the way to Watcher's Keep. Horror scared all but the mage and she fell to a single blow.

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Only mephits guarding the entrance to Watcher's Keep so Poseur went on in. He took one nasty bite from a sword spider (24 HP critical) and played around for a while with some mummies that appeared when he tried to rest. Eventually cleared all the loot from the top floor, though the statues can stay there for now.

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@Alesia: I got the idea, thanks! :) And taking into account all other feedbacks... well, at least Cassia is now in ussnorway' care hands. So be it then, we are going as a Five. But I also like your idea about 6th party member so if someone of you, friends, want to offer your avatar for the Crue - just let me know.

Modifié par Serg BlackStrider, 21 juillet 2013 - 06:30 .


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Back in the city travelled around a bit until the Renfeld ambush triggered. The mage saved against both horror spells, but a whack and a follow-up LMD stopped him taking any action. The last action of the session was returning Renfeld to the docks.

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@Serg blackStrider, I’m just impressed she made it that far… Given what glass cannons they are Druids that like to enter melee tend to die young.

p.s. The Losers have advanced to bg2 and I’ll try to make a post when I get home from work tonight. :wub:

Modifié par ussnorway, 21 juillet 2013 - 06:43 .


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That's quite a wall of posts Grond0 and you mention level 10 twice so the 2nd must be 11? Maybe edit an earlier post if you're updating quite that frequently, so you have one for the chateau, one for the de'Arnise keep etc?

@Alesia. I don't remember being malisoned as I'd have used an invulnerability potion but it is possible I missed it - she does cast them. There was one animation which looked like demon summoning, the replay showed that to be implosion and each time Dunderfoot was moving freely and still alive. I know harm hits but she'd have had to have another action as it was 1-on-1 and I think I'd have noticed. Was certainly obvious in a replay.

There was no animation and I don't think there was a casting vocalisation either, I did notice in replays that she uses a wand repeatedly. She also FoD's which is -2.

Presumably neither mods or enhanced editions could write out the text log or auto-pause on protagonist death - these repeated whatdunnit's are a source of irritation.

Good luck ussnorway.

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@ussnorway: she was a great warrior and an invaluable member of the Crue - we will be miss her... I hope that at least in your hands she will witness the Melissan's downfall.

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Poseur - dwarf swashbuckler

Prebek & Sanasha both fell to horror + VT on Poseur's way into Harper HQ.

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Started Mae'Var and paid Gaelan Bayle. Then went to the Graveyard to get the ioun stone from Pai'Na (level 13).