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[Riona45]

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

1) Parts of DA2 take place at the same time as DA:O--we might see her before she was "killed."

2) Morrigan had mentioned that killing Flemeth probably doesn't REALLY kill her.

[TemplarofSteel]

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

you only destroyed her body that's all.

[glmacedo]

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

One thing that people forget... if Flemeth shows up in Lothering, then that happens before the Warden actually kills her/or sends her away...  Lothering was destroyed right after you left...

[Lord Gremlin]

So far I only know:

1) If I see Morrigan in any Dragon Age 2 trailer it will automatically become a first day must-buy for me.

2) Same thing with a lot of people, not just me.

3) Bioware knows about points 1 and 2.

[Trooper Guy1]

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

When you return to Morrigan she mentions Flemeth will most likely resurrect/come-back one way or the other, so she must gain power for when she does come back. I remember that on one of my playthroughs though on my main playthrough I let Flemeth live and lie to Morrigan claiming she was dead.

[TSamee]

It's a meaningless choice; Flemeth's likely to return anyway. The thing about BioWare RPGs with branching stories is that each "choice" you make has short-term consequences, but then, through some turn of events (e.g: Morrigan saying Flemeth isn't dead), all players are brought back into a unified plane of the story.



That's why there'll be no meaningful conclusion to the Morrigan romance, even if there's another DA featuring our Warden. You'd need a Morrigan that loves the PC and a Morrigan that is indifferent to/doesn't like the PC, and they'd both be two completely different characters. If she has any bearing on the story (which I think she will), then you'd need to different main stories to accomodate that. Much easier to make it so that Morrigan was manipulating you by "loving" you, and it was just a ploy for you to impregnate her.

[triggerhappy456]

i would guess that morrigan will appear fairly late into the game, after the events of da1 are over

i thought morrigan was the best character in the game, but i doubt she could be a companion if she was pregnant

no idea how flemeth could appear. maybe before the warden killed her, maybe after she posessed a sister of morrigan, or maybe morrigan herself

she will be a moral choice in my opinion, something to do with her baby

but what do i know? lets wait and find out hahaha

[TSamee]

companion? If that happens, then she better not be an LI... or my Warden's gonna be all over Hawke's punk ass.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

TSamee wrote...

companion? If that happens, then she better not be an LI... or my Warden's gonna be all over Hawke's punk ass.

Though it would be nice if she refused Hawke's advances if you romanced her in Origins.

[Siven80]

Remember to all those who "killed" Flemeth....read her codex entry after her apparent death.

[fanman72]

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

TemplarofSteel wrote...

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

Why Morrigan. God, I like her, but there are such better characters.....I guess they do need to fill in the "baby" part......

why not? Her story needs to be told because it', of course, incomplete. And of course since we're seeing Flemeth, my bet is we're going to be seeing Morrigan too in some way shape or form

It's always the hot female character that become the second "main". Why not the hot guy. 

What?  It was obvious Allister was the main companion in DAO, followed by Morrigan

[Quinnzel]

triggerhappy456 wrote...

i would guess that morrigan will appear fairly late into the game, after the events of da1 are over
i thought morrigan was the best character in the game, but i doubt she could be a companion if she was pregnant
no idea how flemeth could appear. maybe before the warden killed her, maybe after she posessed a sister of morrigan, or maybe morrigan herself
she will be a moral choice in my opinion, something to do with her baby
but what do i know? lets wait and find out hahaha

Ye of little faith. www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0587.html (never mess with a pregnant adventurer!)

And BeardWarden will lay some goddamn smackdown on BeardHawke if he even comes near the mother of his child.

Modifié par Quinnzel, 14 juillet 2010 - 06:43 .

[sporky1]

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

Doesn't Morrigan herself say that Flemeth will likely be back? Killing her only rends her temporarily weak. If you think about it that way, it would make sense having Flemeth as a companion, as she has been weakened by her past fight but still has the power of a normal mage. For those of us who didn't kill her, like myself (I wanted to but I got tired of dying. My armor sucked) she'd still be in existance, but hiding.

[Amyntas]

sporky1 wrote...

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

Doesn't Morrigan herself say that Flemeth will likely be back? Killing her only rends her temporarily weak. If you think about it that way, it would make sense having Flemeth as a companion, as she has been weakened by her past fight but still has the power of a normal mage. For those of us who didn't kill her, like myself (I wanted to but I got tired of dying. My armor sucked) she'd still be in existance, but hiding.

That's why any speculation about the story is kind of pointless. The writers can come up with all sorts of crazy plot twists to surprise us.

[sporky1]

Amyntas wrote...

sporky1 wrote...

Alyzabeth wrote...

Wait a minute? How the hell is Flemeth in the game? I killed her. lol

Doesn't Morrigan herself say that Flemeth will likely be back? Killing her only rends her temporarily weak. If you think about it that way, it would make sense having Flemeth as a companion, as she has been weakened by her past fight but still has the power of a normal mage. For those of us who didn't kill her, like myself (I wanted to but I got tired of dying. My armor sucked) she'd still be in existance, but hiding.

That's why any speculation about the story is kind of pointless. The writers can come up with all sorts of crazy plot twists to surprise us.

Exactly. It wouldn't be fun if we just knew what was impossible.

[TSamee]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

TSamee wrote...

companion? If that happens, then she better not be an LI... or my Warden's gonna be all over Hawke's punk ass.

Though it would be nice if she refused Hawke's advances if you romanced her in Origins.

Actually, I never thought of that. That would be... great, actually. A way to sort of placate those of us who think the Morrigan-Warden relationship will never get closure.

[reddragon567]

I actually like Flemeth a lot more than Morrigan. Honestly you barely get any character out of her and she's awesome. I really, really, wanted her to join my group. Way more than Morrigan. Janeway FTW. Plus, old lady talk between Wynne and Flemeth would have been hilarious. 

I really hate Morrigan. I hope the Dark Ritual isn't forced on the story. Morrigan has no real redeemable traits that make a good character. She's not sympathetic at all, the only reason I ever have her in my party is the banter between her and Alister.

I hope she's an antagonist, so I can chop her to tiny pieces. However if she ends up being Flemeth... I dunno. 

[ankuu]

i would have liked for sure an alistair dlc so i can fricking find out about his past....i do like leliana and i enjoyed her dlc, i would like morrigan to return any time but what abotu alistair?

[Korva]

Sappy69 wrote...

Why have I read from several posters that the DR has been canonized?

1) Because they want it to be. My guess is that the vast majority of people did the ritual -- either because they were screwing Morrigan anyway, or because it is the easy way out that doesn't cost the player anything, or both.

2) Because she seems to be the devs' pet character. Morrigan has been hyped massively ever since before the release of Origins. Face of the game and all that. Her sex scene was all over the gameplay demos and trailers. And after Origins, the devs said her story wasn't finished yet. Which seriously aggravates me, to be honest. I don't want to play "Dragon Age: Morrigan". I don't like her, I don't think she's interesting or important at all, nor is she needed at all for the first game. If Morrigan was to be so important, make HER the protagonist. Don't force her down people's throat repeatedly.

To be honest, it would really bother me if the DR was canonized.  I'm not sure how any self-respecting "good"-aligned character would ever consider going that route from an in-character perspective.

Likewise. I have no problem with the ritual being an option, it actually makes the choice to sacrifice yourself more meaningful. I also have no problem with people liking a character and plot hook that I personally loathe. But I don't want it forced down my throat because it would break my own immersion and continuity. I don't want anything retconned into canon, including my own choices.

I may have missed something, but at no point during Origins did Morrigan demonstrate any child-rearing skills whatsoever, and it's highly likely the god-baby turns into the same maladjusted, survival-at-all-costs (with the occasional chaotic stupid hiccup that Morrigan is prone to) outcast that Morrigan is.

Amen. I'd consider it child abuse. And we're not talking about any silly diaper-soiling rugrat here but about a reincarnated Old God who might yet explode back into full Archdemon-hood the moment darkspawn go near it.

Flemeth, I don't mind seeing again. She was rather fun in a freaky and dangerous kind of way.

Modifié par Korva, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:11 .

[Quinnzel]

Korva wrote...

Likewise. I have no problem with the ritual being an option, it actually makes the choice to sacrifice yourself more meaningful. I also have no problem with people liking a character and plot hook that I personally loathe. But I don't want it forced down my throat because it would break my own immersion and continuity. I don't want anything retconned into canon, including my own choices.

This. Despite being a massive Morrigan fan, I whole heartedly agree that unless they can find a way (without retconning anything) to continue with the God baby line (or whatever Epilogue everyone ended up with) that they should avoid it. This was why I didnt play Awakenings, I didnt want a single choice I had made retconned. I think that could maybe apply to anyone who loved the game, our choices should count, no matter what we did. TBH i would hate it to play through another Dragon Age game featuring Morrigan that ignored my decisions just to set it's own plotline, as much as I would like to see her again.

Why would Bioware go "Okay we gave you all these awesome moments, but Y'know what, were going to forget them cuz we couldnt figure out a way to make your choices work with what WE wanted this time round."Perhaps thats why setting us a new protaganist gives them more freedom. By importing our decisions it can acknowledge our choices but have it affect the story in minor ways or not at all. Only time will tell I suppose.

Amen. I'd consider it child abuse. And we're not talking about any
silly diaper-soiling rugrat here but about a reincarnated Old God who
might yet explode back into full Archdemon-hood the moment darkspawn go
near it.

Here comes the New Gods, same as the Old Gods

[EmStar202]

ankuu wrote...

i would have liked for sure an alistair dlc so i can fricking find out about his past....i do like leliana and i enjoyed her dlc, i would like morrigan to return any time but what abotu alistair?

haha I agree. Who cares about Morrigan? I want an Alistair cameo... again.

I think most of the fanboys want Morrigan, and the fangirls want Alistair. Poor Leliana and Zev, they get so little love.

But just because I'm an Alistair fangirl, I do agree it would be cool to see Morrigan again.

[triggerhappy456]

Quinnzel wrote...

triggerhappy456 wrote...

i would guess that morrigan will appear fairly late into the game, after the events of da1 are over
i thought morrigan was the best character in the game, but i doubt she could be a companion if she was pregnant
no idea how flemeth could appear. maybe before the warden killed her, maybe after she posessed a sister of morrigan, or maybe morrigan herself
she will be a moral choice in my opinion, something to do with her baby
but what do i know? lets wait and find out hahaha

Ye of little faith. www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0587.html (never mess with a pregnant adventurer!)

And BeardWarden will lay some goddamn smackdown on BeardHawke if he even comes near the mother of his child.

doubt she could run around the world with hawke killing monsters though
would be awesome if the warden appeared in da2, i would make hawke loose hahaha
and i suppose that since the story covers a 10 year period, then a few years after the events of da1 ended and morrigan had her baby, she could join
maybe be like a morinth/samara moment, a choice between morrigan and flemeth
either way, cant wait to see her again hahaha

[Thomas9321]

I can see Flemeth and Morrigan trying to manipulate Hawke against the other in some way. That would be awesome.

[rexil]

Thomas9321 wrote...

I can see Flemeth and Morrigan trying to manipulate Hawke against the other in some way. That would be awesome.

I can totally see that, and besides we will see Flemeth in a new body (if you killed her in Origins or not, she was old already) maybe a "hot" Flemeth *.* She can try to seduce Hawke and help him to obtain power, so Hawke can help her to defeat Morigan/get the god child back. That would be awesome. 

[SirOccam]

If Morrigan must be in it (I'm trying to make my peace with it, I really am), then she had better not be romance-able. That would just kill me. If anything, let Hawke make a pass at her but get shut down because she's TAKEN, dammit!