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[Grond0]

I've started a new game with a blade.  I'm playing a blade in a multi-player game with Gate70, so thought a bit of practice wouldn't go amiss.

So far just taken things easy.  Visiting Shoal provided a flying start  - level 1 to level 4 blade in 1 easy kill.  Since then some quests around Beregost have got her up to level 5.  Here are her stats on arrival in Nashkel.


Early on Pandora stopped off at High Hedge to pick up a pseudo dragon for a travelling companion.  He has a handy ability to make opponents take a snooze - even big guys like this ogre.  The AI also works differently against a familiar - if the PC is in sight then all opponents will start reacting, but against just a familiar only the one actually attacked reacts - making it possible to take on groups one at a time.  The sleep lasts a while as well as you can see.


I've been trying to tweak my installation to make the ToBEX component work properly that wakes sleeping beauties when damaged.  That now seems to be working so the dragon's bite is not necessarily fatal to enemies.  On the down side I suspect I may have other problems cropping up instead.  Nothing significant yet, but I did notice spiders attacking villagers in Beregost, which doesn't normally happen.

[Alesia_BH]

@Easymask- Anonymous Hero is right on the mark: he's given you the recipe for some dead Ankegs. Now just salt and pepper to taste- no bravery needed.

Partying with a Wild Mage, now that takes bravery.

@BBMorti- Thanks for the comments on the videos. I'm personally ambivalent about them. I prefer to read posts rather then watch videos and I'm guessing I'm not alone on that.

I only started doing videos for Alessandra because the music of L7 seems to pair so well with her style and personality. But now that I can't add the songs to the videos, I'm leaning towards skipping them. If there is interest in the videos, I can continue though.

@Corey- My melee Sorceress, Alastria, NRed BG1 ~6 months ago. I don't recall a recent single class mage.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:30 .

[Grond0]

I'm not sure that a mage should be that difficult in itself. However, when you start with slightly dodgy stats and throw in insane difficulty that really does look like a challenge. Best of luck Vaclavc - you'll need it!

Modifié par Grond0, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:30 .

[Alesia_BH]

Grond0 wrote...

I'm not sure that a mage should be that difficult in itself. However, when you start with slightly dodgy stats and through insane difficulty that really does look like a challenge. Best of luck Vaclavc - you'll need it!

Agreed. That's the tricky part about V's run.

Good luck V!

[Gate70]

Slemor, NE male half-orc kensai. I said a few games back that I would struggle not to abuse the cursed berserking sword and here it is for a third no reload run. Expecting this to be a short but sweet interlude.

Previous paladin parked for when I can get a vanilla SOA installed, may be quite a long gap for him. This run is TOB, BG2 Fixpack, BGT and Generalized Biffing.

Str 19
Dex 18
Con 19
Int 11
Wis 7
Cha 7

**** 2HS

After the death of Gorion I borrow equipment from Imoen, Xzar and Montaron. Then guided to Marl, Firebead Elvenhair, Noober level 2, 26hp, Oublek, Brage shiny sword, lack of control with kensai woohoo until dead, ring fire protection and Samuel.

Then I am ambushed and distracted, bad play on my part although I may not have been able to avoid contact. Somehow I kill a half ogre and four skeletons and reach level 3, 35hp, base THACO 18 and get this, actual THACO 7.


I'm a bit slow against Tarnesh too, not that it matters when I eventually beat down his mirror images and connect.


Joia, borrowing from Khalid and Jaheira, pick up Melicamp and fail to restore him. I take two potions of freedom and seek a large reward level 4, 41hp.


I kill a couple of kobolds in Nashkel mine before realising I need better equipment. Kai delivers a girdle of piercing.

Modifié par Gate70, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:49 .

[AnonymousHero]

corey_russell wrote...
Honestly, with the few years I've been keeping up on the no-reloads for BG 1, I don't even think I have HEARD of a solo mage, getting through all of BG 1 while solo (at least, not successfully). Here's wishing you are the first...

I can't remember if I ever posted him, but I did run a no-reload solo Conjurer through BG1 and BG2:SoA. I think I got bored in ToB and just stopped playing him.

In my install, getting a solo mage through BGT/Tutu isn't that bad -- invisibility can take care of most problems. I have no idea how a mage would fare in pure vanilla BG1, but I guess the main difficulty would be Sarevok with his ridiculous (90%?) MR... but then you could just buy several Wand of Summoning and surround him with (practically) endless summons (who are bound to hit once in a while on a critical).

EDIT: *Diviner* is an interesting choice, though. Definitely harder than a Conjurer (who basically doesn't miss out on anything important with the vanilla AI).

Modifié par AnonymousHero, 05 novembre 2011 - 11:16 .

[Easymask]

Love reading up on your crazy characters Gate70 - can't wait to see more!

And yeah Alesia, I have been fairly warned thus far - but seeing what she did recently, in an encounter against four Red Wizards of Thay - Aximand and crew find her to be quite potent in addition to toasting the Wizards fairly with her fireball spell!(I have never played with a Wild Mage before, and it sure is a lot of fun!)



(Just read that the spell does nothing against Magic Missiles, oh well! Still now I know her buffs can affect the entire party with some luck!)

The party cleared out the bandit camp main tent, did some Ankheg hunting and cleared the first area of Cloakwood - no big updates thus far!

[Alesia_BH]

Nice work Easymask!

A Wild Mage does sound fun in a no reload, but I simply don't have the stomach for it. There is no way I could play knowing that my mage might obliterate the party at any moment.

I'm definitely enjoying your team's run though. I hope Ms. Septera continues to roll high!

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 06 novembre 2011 - 05:15 .

[ussnorway]

AnonymousHero wrote...

EDIT: *Diviner* is an interesting choice, though. Definitely harder than a Conjurer (who basically doesn't miss out on anything important with the vanilla AI).

It’s your game of course but I find it hard to see how Conjurer is better than Diviner;

Conjurer: A mage who specialises in creating creatures and objects to assist him.
Human and half-elf only… can’t cast any detect spells.

Diviner: A mage who specialises in detection and divining magic.
Any race you want (wis 16) can’t summon creatures… hello, just use a wand.

Edit; Human, Elf & Half-Elf with vanilla AI.

Modifié par ussnorway, 06 novembre 2011 - 03:30 .

[Grond0]

There's been a rash of activity recently for wild mages and I've found myself tempted by that.  So I'm going to put Pandora on hold and roll up one of them. 

I'll also change difficulty to insane, though I'm not really tempted to nerf stats as well like Vaclavc!  I have very rarely played at that difficulty level so that's probably enough of a challenge (without being toasted / squashed / petrified etc by a surge) so I don't expect the mage to cast many spells in BG1.

[AnonymousHero]

ussnorway wrote...
It’s your game of course but I find it hard to see how Conjurer is better than Diviner;

...

can’t summon creatures… hello, just use a wand.

Edit; Human, Elf & Half-Elf with vanilla AI.

I was just going to say that they miss out on the important summons in the later game (ones not obtainable with wands)... but it turns out they don't. Mordy Swords are Invocation and Skeleton Warriors are Necromancy. They do miss out on PW:Kill which can be very useful for "endless spell" strategies, but Imprisonment will do as a replacement there.

The manual says that Wish belongs to the Conjuration and Invocation schools, so I assume anyone with access to either school will be able to cast that.

Hum. I guess they don't actually miss out on anything super-important.

[corey_russell]

Alesia_BH wrote...

@Corey- My melee Sorceress, Alastria, NRed BG1 ~6 months ago. I don't recall a recent single class mage.

Yes, I remember that. But surely you aren't claiming that a sorceress isn't significantly better than a level 1 mage (e.g., not specialist) that can cast just 1 spell a day level 1? When I say mage, I mean MAGE, not diviner, sorceress, or anything else.

I've yet to get a mage to the end of BG 1, not that is relevant, and that is with a group. Just saying a solo mage in vanilla BG 1 (no stoneskins) is tough...

[Grond0]

I would ideally have liked a mage with good wisdom as well as intelligence, but didn't roll up any particularly high scores.


A starting mage is a fragile beast
Even when not insane
So when meeting Carbos and Shank
Its really better not to tank
Use your sling; it causes pain.

Attacking things that can't fight back
Makes a good first goal
A familiar helps increase HP
But if you're looking for XP
You really can't beat Shoal.

Rab has actually cast 2 spells already.  Apart from find familiar he also accidentally triggered a skeleton in High Hedge when fighting gnolls to get Perdue's sword and resorted to blind to get rid of it.  He's now in Beregost looking to do a few chores to get up to level 4.

[Vaclavc]

corey_russell wrote...
Good luck, Vaclavc. Honestly, with the few years I've been keeping up on the no-reloads for BG 1, I don't even think I have HEARD of a solo mage, getting through all of BG 1 while solo (at least, not successfully). Here's wishing you are the first...

Thanks a lot. Actually, I managed to get through BG1 with solo mage  in the old Bioware forums, years ago. But it was not on insane difficulty and I left out many parts of the game, like Durlag's Tower and Werewolf island.
Perhaps there were some other successful attempts.

Grond0 wrote...
I'm not sure that a mage should be that difficult in itself. However, when you start with slightly dodgy stats and throw in insane difficulty that really does look like a challenge. Best of luck Vaclavc - you'll need it!

Thanks. I wanted to play stereotypical mage - intelligent, wise, but not very strong or dexterous.

ussnorway wrote...
Conjurer: A mage who specialises in creating creatures and objects to assist him.
Human and half-elf only… can’t cast any detect spells.
Diviner: A mage who specialises in detection and divining magic.
Any race you want (wis 16) can’t summon creatures… hello, just use a wand.

You are right, summoning is not a problem. Diviner also mises spells like Flame Arrow and Melf's Acid Arrow, which is slightly bigger pain, though.

Grond0 wrote...
A starting mage is a fragile beast
Even when not insane
So when meeting Carbos and Shank
Its really better not to tank
Use your sling; it causes pain.

Attacking things that can't fight back
Makes a good first goal
A familiar helps increase HP
But if you're looking for XP
You really can't beat Shoal.

Rab has actually cast 2 spells already.  Apart from find familiar he also accidentally triggered a skeleton in High Hedge when fighting gnolls to get Perdue's sword and resorted to blind to get rid of it.  He's now in Beregost looking to do a few chores to get up to level 4.

Grond, if you will make it through BG with solo wild mage, you will break all records! And if you will describe your adventures in poetry, you will put Volo in shame
Good luck!




Update on human diviner Morveduin:
Near Beregost temple, Morveduin defeated Cattack and his hobgoblin bandits. He also found boots of stealth and returned them to Zhurlong. He also helped Silke to defeat Feldepost thugs. This yielded him 3 Potions of Defense – very nice reward. North of Beregost, Morveduin defeated Ogre with belt fetish.

Morveduin finally accumulated enough money so that he could afford to purchase some spells from Thalantyr. Luckily, he managed to learn all of them. With new spells in his arsenal, he cleared spider infested house in Beregost and killed assassin Karlat.

Next, he headed to Nashkel. He defeated Neira using Invisibility – Blindness – Wand of Magic Missiles combo.


Zordral was defeated using Invisibility – Mirror Image - Wand of Lightning combo.


Morveduin purchased two strange potions from merchant in Carnival. Using violet potion, he bashed chests in Nashkel manor house and looted potion of invisibility. He obtained second potion of invisibility in the tomb east of Nashkel, after completing Revenant quest. One of invisibility potions came handy soon after, during ambush:


Other notable quests Morveduin completed so far: he helped Tenya with fishermen, protected Prism, took Melicamp to Thalantyr (though Melicamp died in the process of transformation), defeated Half-Ogres for paladin Bjornin, helped succubus Kirinhale.
Morveduin currently explores Gnoll Fortress. He is level 6 Diviner with 27HP.
V

Modifié par Vaclavc, 06 novembre 2011 - 08:50 .

[Alesia_BH]

corey_russell wrote...

But surely you aren't claiming that a sorceress isn't significantly better than a level 1 mage (e.g., not specialist) that can cast just 1 spell a day level 1? When I say mage, I mean MAGE, not diviner, sorceress, or anything else.

You are correct: I wasn't claiming anything of the sort. 

However, now that the subject has been raised, I will note that the number of spell slots can be very nearly irrelevant as a BG1 soloer- the wands are more than sufficient to get through. I'd feel perfectly comfortable doing a 0 spell slot mage.

The slots would give you more style point opportunities though to be sure.

While I'd be comfortable with the zero spell slot mage, playing on Insane with a low con and dex as V is doing would significantly increase difficulty since you'd be much more likely to get jacked by an arrow in the early going.


Best,

A.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 06 novembre 2011 - 09:24 .

[Alesia_BH]

Quick Note on Alessandra's Game:

Due to a comical number of crashes and some bad orienteering on my part, the search for Caldo and Crumm turned into an epic adventure. Eventually -with fortitude and persistance- Alessandra tracked down the evil bastard.


She then proceeded to ruthlessly murder his brother and pillage the corpse in the name of all that is good and right....

Anyhoo...Collecting the the Girdle of Bluntness was Alessandra's last southern errand. She left for The Beard soon after and reached level 7 fighting Ankhegs. Well leveled and comfortably equipped, Alessandra is now ready to complete the storyline encounters.



Posts on those will follow soon. In the meantime, here is a little Ankeg hunting video.


The song that goes with it is Long Green by L7:
http://www.youtube.c...?v=Cy5GHBb6w7o' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy5GHBb6w7o

Best,

A.


Btw. For those wondering about the absence of Ankheg Plate. I ditched it: It's just too darn ugly. 

[Grond0]

Update for Rab.

Marl just needs a kind word
Karlat something sterner
Lord Foreshadow helps with a gift
Now there's no more need for thrift
It makes Rab a great earner.

Oopah recovers like a troll
but his talent has a limit
Rab used up a chaos shield
Blind meant he could stay concealed
While Zordral took a hit.

A group of Xvarts pick on a cow
Rab somehow needs to stall
Sleep stops their riot
And keeps them quiet
And one by one they fall.

I was quite pleased to be able to save the cow.  As the Xvarts recover from sleep when hit it wasn't straightforward - particularly with a wolf trying to crash the party.  Rab's now at level 4 and looking to do some reputation quests for a while in order to get good value for money once he starts shopping.

Modifié par Grond0, 06 novembre 2011 - 11:26 .

[Vaclavc]

Alesia_BH wrote...
Posts on those will follow soon. In the meantime, here is a little Ankeg hunting video.

Btw. For those wondering about the absence of Ankheg Plate. I ditched it: It's just too darn ugly. 

Great video, Alesia. Anheg Plate may be darn ugly, but it also darn useful. You ditched it just for the looks? 

Grond0 wrote...
Marl just needs a kind word
Karlat something sterner
Lord Foreshadow helps with a gift
Now there's no more need for thrift
It makes Rab a great earner.

Oopah recovers like a troll
but his talent has a limit
Rab used up a chaos shield
Blind meant he could stay concealed
While Zordral took a hit.

A group of Xvarts pick on a cow
Rab somehow needs to stall
Sleep stops their riot
And keeps them quiet
And one by one they fall.

Keep rockin' , Rab

V

[Gate70]

No rings Alesia - free protection +1 and fire resistance not in your game or just not needed?
Nice summary there Grond0.

Slemor, NE male half-orc kensai.

Nestor would be pleased, I've killed the ankheg that ate him. After purchasing a cloak of displacement I return to Nashkel mine. Despite my cloak and girdle the kobolds are troublesome. Example, which I barely survive.


Kai takes care of two huge spiders, then I draw a few kobolds out so I can charge a commando before taking out three other kobolds. A second commando and a few more kobolds are next, then I rest and glug my second potion of freedom which isn't needed. I kill him without losing control as my strike is faster than my temper.


I kill the minions without injury and kill two oozes level 5, 56hp, THACO 16/5. I manage to spot an assassin called Nimbul all alone but by the time he attacks a guard and a villager have arrived. Luckily my first blow kills him before my fury arrives.


Tranzig is next.


Bandit camp next, think this will be the end. I do a quick shop for a scroll poison against Centeol and the horn of Kazgaroth spells, interesting to see it is now a quick-slot rather than amulet.

Tazok takes one look at me and decides to test my mettle. Kai time helps share the pain one major risk down, next to follow after a nap.


Potions of absorbtion, heroism, speed and regeneration are followed with kai.


I knew it would be tough.


The hard work is done, time to finish off the bandits before their criticals kill me.


The potion of regeneration has me healed by the time I reach Ardenor Crush it seems faster because of the oil of speed, worth remembering.


A few more bandits are outside the largest tent, I'm healed again by the time they die. I kai and enter, managing to target Venkt before being overcome with fury.


Next? Raemon fortunately as he is tearing into me.


Britik.


Hakt.


That shows what a difference potions can make, an out of control level 5 kensai marauds through the entire bandit camp in one go and finishes with 60/61hp. Armour class was 3 +12 missile adjustment.

[Grond0]

Gate70 wrote...
That shows what a difference potions can make, an out of control level 5 kensai marauds through the entire bandit camp in one go and finishes with 60/61hp. Armour class was 3 +12 missile adjustment.

Impressive stuff Gate.  Looking forward to seeing - though hopefully not feeling - it firsthand.

[Gate70]

Grond0 wrote...
Looking forward to seeing - though hopefully not feeling - it firsthand.

I had prepped my last screenshot before seeing your comment. Spooky.

Slemor, NE male half-orc kensai.

Electric trap? Good job the potion of absorbtion is still effective. I need more supplies, so return to High Hedge and grab some potions. He has no more protection from poison scrolls I have 1, want at least 2, wyvern ambush would probably be a game-over either way though so I head to the carnival.

I pick up a few potions but still no scroll. Erdane has nothing of interest so I head into Cloakwood. I think Seniyad has the better of me but I drop him and get a level-up with 14hp so jump from 3/56hp to 17/70hp and set upon his three pals.


This is going to be close that level up just kept me in the game.


Is that it? No.


Another hit and I am victorious. Aldeth hands me a potion of heroism and clears off without so much as helping me or even guarding while I rest.

I decide to leave Cloakwood get the tome of bodily health, but get ambushed and don't have chance to use the poison scroll all I can do is watch.


I get poisoned, but critical a second not going to make it.


Third dead but the poison is mounting up.


At least I'm going to die in battle.

Modifié par Gate70, 06 novembre 2011 - 01:27 .

[Easymask]

Well done so far everyone! It's a joy to read all these great updates - can't wait to see how things go for you all on this great adventure!

Edit: Sad to see Slemor fall Gate70! I am sad that Lady Luck could not see what a marvelous warrior he was, but a great story has been told none the less!

As for Aximand and his band, they are still going strong!(Well, with a few minor setbacks - but nothing fatal as of yet!)

Having braved the entirety of the Cloakwood forest - slaying Druids, Wyverns, Spiders and other foul creatures(not to mention traps!) - as well as one rather bloated creature - without too much hassle - they ventured into what seemed like a forest stronghold, and slew a group of Bounty Hunters quite easily - much due to Raqulis's fantastic Fireball spell!



The group decided to venture within the mines located here as well, but they soon found out that these walls must have done something to Raqulis - for t'was Wild Surges galore!

As she attempted to toss a Fireball spell into a hall filled to it's brim with Guards(and a Mage!) - the spell surged and instead came out as a Horror spell! It hit most of the Guards, including the Mage, lucky!



Then, as the group proceeded to cut down what Guards there where inside these foul halls, the Horror spell previously cast broke - and thus the enemy Mage was free to cast, far away from the group of adventurers! Raqulis spotted it soon enough, and began casting a Horror spell to counter her foul magics - but AGAIN the spell surged - and resulted in casting both invisibility and silence instead!



The spell hit her target though, and the enemy Mage found herself without a voice! Before this occured though, her Lightning Bolt went off - and nearly slew Eamon as it passed through him - striking Raqulis square in her chest! As she fell, the spell bounced off the wall and entered what seemed like a kitchen - luckily not hitting anyone else in the group.



The group quickly disposed off the mute Mage and her last remaining Guards. Eamon demanded that the group returned to the friendly Arm Inn to gather some strength, before braving further into this vile dungeon. Aximand and Yarath agreed, and now they are enroute to purchase a Raise and sleep in warm beds.

What dangers lurk further inside the foul mines? We shall see! Onwards, to fame and glory!

Modifié par Easymask, 06 novembre 2011 - 01:30 .

[Alesia_BH]

Gate70 wrote...

No rings Alesia - free protection +1 and fire resistance not in your game or just not needed?

Not needed. She'll fill those slots when they might help.

Vaclavc wrote...
 Anheg Plate may be darn ugly, but it also darn useful. You ditched it just for the looks? 

Have you seen the way it looks on a female Paladin or Cleric. Oh my. Why would anyone want a full armored top with thigh high boots and their butt hang out? No one can make that look good. And to try to pull it off in puke green?!?!? That's crazy talk. 

Of course given her low base strength (14), the Ankeg Plate was kind of a boon, but my characters always grow out of magical armor in BG1. I prefer Potions of Defense/Potions of Invulnerability + Protection Items in the end game. 

@Gate70- Slemor looks like a blast. Enjoy!

Edit: Opps. Missed your last post. Oh Well. Enjoy your next character I guess...

[Gate70]

Alesia_BH wrote...
Have you seen the way it looks on a female Paladin or Cleric. Oh my. Why would anyone want a full armored top with thigh high boots and their butt hang out? No one can make that look good. And to try to pull it off in puke green?!?!? That's crazy talk. 

I demand evidence:police:

[Gate70]

Easymask wrote...
What dangers lurk further inside the foul mines?

You mean other than your wild mage. Going to enjoy keeping an eye on this run.