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[aVENGER_]

BelgarathMTH wrote...

Is the script for the kiss of death changed in this new mod? Because in the original, if you "refuse her kiss" in the dialogue screen, she will say "I'm afraid I must insist" and do it anyway.

Yes. A couple of new dialogue lines have been added which allow you to avoid the kiss completely.

However, note that this will become available as of the next version (v3.80) as it's a part of the PnP Elementals component which is still under development.

[Grond0]

I thought I would have another go at a feralan. I'm not sure if I would want to dual to cleric (which I'm not normally fond of as a class), but rolled for a while to get starting wisdom of 18 in case I decide to go for that.

[Grond0]

I decided to play on insane difficulty for BG1, but not much joy for Trog so far:
- on his first attempt he got ambushed by amazons coming out of the main bandit tent when he was already too far from any exits to avoid being targeted by spells. He was hit by 2 unholy blights trying to get to the edge of the map.
- on his second attempt I forgot he was a ranger and he lost his class when taking Algernon's cloak.

I'll give him one more chance ...

Edit: talk about careless.  I was a fraction slow moving and let him get caught by the (unimproved) version of Shoal. 

Modifié par Grond0, 30 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[Grond0]

Next up I thought I would take a leaf out of Gate70's playbook. Here's a cavalier:

[Grond0]

Had a bit of fun with Vesper making use of Brage's cursed sword. She had several close escapes, but made it through the Nashkel mines and cleared the valley of the tombs. However, she came a cropper against Nimbul when trying to leave it to the guards to deal with him. Nimbul was severely damaged and when his morale broke he unfortunately ran towards Vesper. She killed him, but couldn't resist a guard as well resulting in another fallen character.

[BelgarathMTH]

Condolences on the tough luck, Grond0. I hope your next try will start a winning streak for you.

[Gate70]

I would say give it another go Grond0 but I think SCS might interfere. The trick with Nimbul is to lead him around the back of the buildings so he's the only viable target, I believe SCS probably gets him hostile on sight so could be harder to lead him to a play area.

[Grond0]

He does go hostile on sight and there's also the problem that he can run all over the place using the mage SCS script (so the chances are pretty high he would lead into something else anyway). I probably should have taken the time to charm the attacking guards rather than leaving them neutral in the first place (so they could dodge if necessary).

I'll give Vesper one more try and perhaps have a look at a spell-caster after that.

[Grond0]

Vesper died this time against the revenant in the valley of the tombs. It was a close fight in her previous run, but I'd added a potion of heroism this time which I thought should help - but obviously not enough.

[Grond0]

I've started a sorceror. Using blind made killing Firebead in Candlekeep easy to get level 2. Normal run and shoot tactics on Shoal provided level 3. Marl and some spiders got her up to level 4. Here's her current record.


In addition to blind she's got shield and magic missile so far at level 1 and has just taken invisibility at level 2 to be able to travel safely.

Modifié par Grond0, 30 mars 2012 - 10:16 .

[Gate70]

Vayler, LG human male cavalier.

Str 18/14
Dex 18
Con 18
Int 6
Wis 14
Cha 18

** 2HS, ** 2 handed weapon. Added * shortsword.

I have left Candlekeep ill equipped, but after the death of Gorion I find Imoen, Xzar and Montaron all hand me some items. Marl and Firebead are friendly faces too, as are Captain Brage and Joia.

Even after stumbling across ankheg armour I have to retreat from Gnarl and Hairtooth, and heal before I can deal with Caldo and Krumm. A pair of winter wolves later I have returned a drowned cat to a young girl. Arghain is next, then Gnarl and Hairtooth get their come-uppance.

I read a tome of leadership then retrieve a letter for Mirianne. A belted ogre is killed, as is Melicamp by Thalantyr.

Nashkel mine is no real danger, other than the repeated attacks when I try to rest. I glug a potion of freedom and cast PfE to deal with Mulahey, but he hits me with rigid thinking. I drop his kobolds then refuse to let him surrender and the battle is won before I recover. I hunt down two ghouls, then leave.

Nimbul manages to cast mirror image and horror before I carve him up. Tranzig manages armour, gets scared and tries to melee me. Fool.

I pick up a few items, a cloak and amulet from Ulgoths Beard, bracers from Meilum and a strangely cool ring before taking Samuel to the FAI. I am ready to investigate the bandit camp next.

A nice steady run, just under 2 hours and minimal risks to reach level 5 and 27k xp. Could have used the potion of clarity against Mulahey.

[Grond0]

Well that was annoying. Ava had cleared virtually all of the non-TotSC areas and had decided to take on Kahrk. She used quite a wide variety of strategies against him including charm, summons, invisibility / MMM, magic missiles, paralysation. Eventually he was paralysed at the 8th time of asking, but by that stage Ava was out of MMM and took a while to work through stoneskins (including contingency). Kaahrk had been at near death for a while and I think one more hit would have done it, but he recovered just in time and went invisible.

He refused to appear again to attack summons or charmed creatures so Ava eventually rested. The next day she used some wild dogs to try and tempt Kaahrk out again. Unfortunately one of the dogs chose the wrong moment to go wandering away from its instructions back towards Ava and brought her into the range of Kaahrk's opening chaos spell - unlike Ava Kaahrk had no problems at all working through stoneskins!

I think I'll give her another go, but be more focused on the end game this time.

[BelgarathMTH]

Condolences, Grond0.

@Gate, ah, the hated Rigid Thinking, my least favorite spell, bypasses protections yet again! Gratz on your good luck in continuing to attack the enemy and winding up still alive after being Confused. I didn't realize PoClarity would stop an RT. I'll have to remember that, if I can find one.

[Gate70]

There is one upstairs at Winthrop's in Candlekeep. Thieving or bashing usually works. I'm sure there are more around but can't remember where.

Condolences Grond0.

Vayler, LG human male cavalier.

I dispose of Tarnesh before heading to Nashkel and then to the bandit camp. I have to rest after eliminating Ardenor Crush and his hobgoblins, then I glug a potion of hill giant strength before tackling Taugosz Khosann. My two hits prove more effective than his one.


I glug two spare healing potions to relieve my inventory and add two healing abilities before casting PfE and heading into the bandit tent.

Venkt Melfs me twice before collapsing, he's tried to glug a blue potion but I snatch it from him and use it instead. I glug his second potion as I kill Britik, then quickly fell Raemon and then Hakt. Ender Sai starts running as I force a trapped chest. I loot what I can and return to Nashkel then Beregost to sell it. To High Hedge for a few potions; fire resistance, freedom and three regenerations.

Cloakwood.
I've stashed the boots of grounding and take a violent jolt from lightning 42 damage, 9hp left so not a good idea bearing in mind my last character got zapped in the SOA druid grove. I have to glug two healing potions quickly and remind myself to not take stupid risks.

I glug the potion of freedom to fight spiders and ettercaps. I could have avoided the traps instead but the potion was cheap. Before long I have recovered a large sword and the body of a boy called Chelak. I have to drop my armour as well as most of my inventory to return Chelak to Tiber, then re-equip.

I waste all my blue potions in a wyvern cave, emerging with a pair of huge skulls instead. Time for another store run before facing Drasus and his cohorts.

Preparation; Girdle of bluntness, absorbtion, fire resistance, heroism, stone giant strength, clarity, oil of speed, PfE.

I reach past Drasus, targeting Rezdan instead. His mirror images foil me briefly but then he is dead. Kysus has cast a flame arrow potion protects all but 3 damage then confusion but this too is blocked by a potion. I kill him and as Drasus is fast but Genthore is tough I fell them in that order reaching level 7 with Drasus.

My wounds have healed all 3 points, not sure how so I swap boots speed and belt piercing then head into the mine. Thirteen guards later I have a minor scratch but have sighted a mage called Hareishan. I reach her quickly then attack her guards untils she releases a lightning bolt. Then I kill her, mop up the guards and release Rill/Yeslick with 57/68hp and no healing so far.

The next room has hobgoblin archers and swordsmen down to 54/68hp. I only encounter one more guard, killing him swiftly. I decide to glug a potion of regeneration but stupidly select my final oil of speed. I add the regeneration and set about two battle horrors at the same time 37/68hp after killing them.

I rush Davaeorn. As I attack he casts a lightning bolt and badly wounds himself then teleports away and kills himself with a fireball. Seems I couldn't kill him quickly enough.

Baldur's Gate. I get a few items identified, stashed and purchased. I drop into the sewer to kill an ogre mage and his carrion crawlers, emerging victorious but badly wounded by lightning again.

Ramazith is next, then the helm of Balduran. Larze almost pastes me so I flee to sort out Marek and Lothander instead. Abala the nymph is freed and the friend of Varci Roaringhorn restored. Finally I sort out the Seven Suns and get Scar to introduce me to Duke Eltan and reach level 8.

Modifié par Gate70, 31 mars 2012 - 02:40 .

[Gate70]

Vayler, LG human male cavalier.

I find another book; all I had to do was kill nine sirines and three flesh golems. I find another in Durlags Tower despite a charm trap.

Iron Throne HQ.
I buff heavily, but stick to frost giant strength to free up an inventory slot.


Diyab and Aasim are down, the doppelganger has hit me with a critical but flamestrikes have healed half that damage. Naaman and Alai find much of their flame arrow damage is neutralised and I am in their faces. Within moments they are dead and the doppelganger chunked. Zhalimar Cloudewulfe is chunked too leaving Gardush to hold on for almost as long as his six companions together. 82/91hp left.

I race back to Duke Eltan so he can send me to Candlekeep. He transports me there immediately, with buffs still active so I set to work. I grab a ring from Koveras and run to the top floor of the library where I am arrested, then rescued by Tethtoril.

Catacombs.
I have to glug a regeneration potion, then upgrade to cloud giant strength to open a few containers. I find I can't open one, so continue to kill ghasts. I need another oil of speed and regeneration to deal with doppelgangers. Prat and his gang are next, then phase spiders and two greater basilisks. I return to the trapped container and rest. I learn a new ability, DUHM phew, glug another cloud giant potion and break open the container.

A strange paladin party.
I have four spare tomes. After a brief "situation" in Gullykin my reputation drops from 20 to 10. On the positive side this means I can recruit Viconia, on the negative side my reputation drops further to 8. A mage called Edwin suggests I can make amends by killing a witch, so I do as he says. Worryingly he doesn't acknowledge this act. When I rest a vampiric touch special ability appears.

Slythe and the Coronation.
I suggest Viconia and Edwin wait at the entrance while I get the invites from Slythe. He's soon bleeding his last and we head to the coronation.

I suggest Viconia and Edwin wait upstairs while I sort it out. Liia dies but Belt survives, sending us after Sarevok. We head into the thieves maze, where I lead and the others follow. I tell them to wait at the undercity entrance while I negotiate with Rahvin, and take a fair beating. I have dropped the two casters so sprint around and pick off the archers, then the rest and finally Gorf. We regroup and rest.

The Temple.
I show Viconia and Edwin where to wait, and hand them a potion of invisibility each. Edwin uses a scroll of protection from magic on me. I taunt Sarevok and run around as his party show themselves.

Contingency, tattoo and remove magic are triggered. As they clear I glug potions of fire resistance and mind focusing before seeing Semaj teleport. Viconia and Edwin glug potions of invisibility and move again. Sarevok is hitting me so I add an oil of speed, regeneration and storm giant strength.

I flit around, chunking Angelo on my third strike. Sarevok gets entangled as I glug heroism then face up to Tazok and chunk him.

Sarevok is hitting me before I can hit Semaj, so I'm getting wounded. I finish the mage with two throws of the axe taken from Prat. Sarevok gets a few more as I heal.

I'm fully healed, so we trade three blows each before I run again. I glug a potion of power and start running across the skull mosaic.

I try to cast DUHM but he hits me. I run around for a few more seconds then stop again to trade blows.


The bad news is I forgot to install consistent NPC stats so Viconia and Edwin didn't really benefit from the four tomes given to them. Also the lack of golden girdle might have helped Sarevok (or maybe not with his THACO). The worrying moments in this run were Mulahey, Larze and Sarevok. Not sure anything else was a problem other than me packing the wrong strength potions for the catacombs.

Modifié par Gate70, 31 mars 2012 - 05:21 .

[Grond0]

Well done Gate70 - keep those potions of absorption handy for BG2!

[Grond0]

Quick update for Ava. She's going well. Here's a summary of progress so far:
Blind made Firebead easy - level 2.
Shoal was also blinded - level 3.
Picked up ring of wizardry, Marl, Algernon, Karlat and the slime quest - level 4.
Meilum's bracers, Nashkel tasks, temple wolf pack - level 5.
Basilisk area - level 6.
Cloudpeaks and reputation quests - level 7.
Ankheg area, more reputation quests (now up to 20 and done some shopping at Ulgoth's Beard) and some spiders - level 8.

Spells chosen so far are:
L1 - blind, magic missile, prot evil, prot petrification, shield
L2 - invisibility, knock, web
L3 - MMM, MSD
L4 - II

[Grond0]

Ava is still going and has reached her level cap.

The Red Wizards of Thay fell to web.  At Ulcaster improved invisibility did not protect against call lightning, but Ava's MMM did damage quickly enough to deal with Icharyd anyway.  Inside the dungeon it took 3 castings of MMM to wear down a mustard jelly.  Other dungeon occupants were less resilient.  A sixth sense allowed Ava to prepare for a fireball trap.  Her instinct also told her to read a protection from fear scroll, but this instinct was misplaced as the wolf of Ulcaster never managed to break free from the webs trapping it.

Bought a robe fit for a magician and a monster's claw, then took out the sirenes and golems - web and MMM doing most of the work.  That provided Ava's ninth (and last in BG1) level - she now has a very healthy total of 47 HPs (averaging a fraction over 3 per die) and has not yet acquired a familiar.  The tome from the pirate cave means that Ava could now choose to use the Claw without taking a HP penalty.

Invisibility, MMMs and a first use of a wand of fire (targeted at her feet) saw her through the Nashkel mines and a few charmed skeletons helped her with the inhabitants of the valley of tombs.

Just took revenge on Kahrk, though it was not an easy battle.  Ava used a whole succession of skeletons and kobolds to absorb spells - she was particularly worried about chaos as she had no specific defences against that.  After that phase she tried to get Kahrk to chase other charmed things (and one lot of summoned monsters) while she pelted him with MMMs.  She had 45 of those, which was sufficient to get through his stoneskins, but not enough to kill him.  Meanwhile Kaahrk used his superior speed to work through Ava's stoneskins in return forcing her to use her last 4th level spell to renew it (as opposed to another improved invisibility).  However, a few rounds of normal magic missiles eventually saw Ava triumphant.

She will try and move forward much faster now.

[Grond0]

A moment's distraction saw the end of Ava in the Cloakwood mines. She was trying to run away from the battle horrors, but some sort of pathfinding error got her stuck up against a doorframe and by the time I noticed she was dead.

[BelgarathMTH]

Condolences, Grond0! I thought you had it that time. That must have been frustrating.

[Grond0]

A bit of a waste given how overpowered for BG1 a 9th level sorceror is, but that's the fortunes of war. I'll have another go to get a kensai dual to thief to work.


Edit: non-proficient axes were still too much for Shoal and Sanath gains a disappointing 15 HPs for 2 levels.
Edit2: some odd jobs in Beregost get another level and a much more satisfactory 13 HPs.
Edit3: careless again and got charmed at Firewine Bridge by Poe after taking Meilum's bracers.  Maybe have another try tomorrow.

Modifié par Grond0, 01 avril 2012 - 08:19 .

[corey_russell]

Grats Gate70...tough breaks there Grond0, you're not going to be able to join Picenon in ToB at that rate...here's wishing your kensai duals come to fruition!

[Grond0]

A short session to get a reincarnated Sanath underway sees him start with Shoal, do some tasks around Beregost and Nashkel, clear the basilisk area and tromp through the mines. He got hit by a number of criticals in the last of those and used all the 11 healing potions he had available. A fireball from his necklace dealt with most of Mulahey's summons, while Mulahey had already tried to surrender when he found himself on the wrong end of a staff kai critical.


Sanath is now at level 5 and right on the average of 52 HPs.

Modifié par Grond0, 02 avril 2012 - 09:54 .

[Grond0]

Sanath has just arrived at the Cloakwood mine. He spent a bit of time getting reputation up to 20 and is now at level 7. Only one dangerous moment in that session when he rashly decided to take the amazon ambushers on when he was only at level 5 - as you can see he barely triumphed.

[Shadow_Leech07]

that's cutting it real close Grond0! Keep up the good work.