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#51
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:blush:

Ecael wrote...

ald0s wrote...

Ecael is right they need to provide better grafics and i think that dragon age with texture mods looks better then these screens that we have seen until now

I hope that they are really early screens of the game and that the finished product will look better... but i believe in bioware

I didn't say they need to provide better graphics. Graphics are hardly significant for an RPG.


ok you didn´t but you said it would need more colour and i think: give dragon age 2 more colour and you improve the grafic a lot... :innocent: and please bioware don´t forget the outer fancy stuff

Marionetten wrote...

Dragon Age
had precious little color to begin with. Why remove it?

Because
it had little color to begin with.


but i think we can agree on the fact that they should do something about the grafic quality of the game and i believe in them and say they will B)

@ toppic:
i realy like the idee to have a sister! i hope there are some nice moments between the siblings... like scolding and something like that... (keep away with your romance thoughts i hope for mor and other options )

i would like a romance betwenn my sister and a npc or party member... would be nice :wub:

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Thanks for the link.



The sister companion sounds interesting but the graphics look terrible.

I hope we don’t see any more of these graphics or it will put me of the game.

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Zerthus wrote...

Sir Karl wrote...

Some characters:
Bethany: mage sister of Hawke
Cassandra: inquisitor with interest in Hawke
Varric: dwarven friend of Hawke and narrator
Flemeth will reappear


I think it's also worth noting that Bethany is FIRE mage. As the article reads, "supports her brother in the battle with fire spells." This makes it seem that elements may be specific to specialization instead of a general "Primal" branch of spells.
Also, [rather exciting for me] Flemeth doesn't just "reappear" it says she's "with the party." That makes it seem like she'd be a companion. ^_^


you are right it does not have to say something about her talents at all but ther german articel clearly says fire spells... would be nice if she had fire spells and a matching character...

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Here's the page translated by google, so I don't know exactly how accurate it is. http://translate.goo...tml&sl=de&tl=en

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ald0s wrote...

ok you didn´t but you said it would need more colour and i think: give dragon age 2 more colour and you improve the grafic a lot... :innocent: and please bioware don´t forget the outer fancy stuff

I'm sure it'll look much better by the time the game is released, but - like I said, it's really irrelevant. Dragon Age: Origins wasn't exactly known for its graphics either.

Unless they went 8-bit, it really wouldn't matter to me.

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Seagloom wrote...

Taking another speculative leap, it wouldn't surprise me if Cassandra was the armored woman from Matt Rhodes's concept art. I'm more intrigued by Bethany however. It's not terribly common to have enduring sibling party members in these games. BioWare hasn't done this since the Baldur's Gate series. I'm curious to see if she becomes a staple or simply dies in Dragon Age 2's introductory sequences. If not, it will be interesting to see what kind of friendship she has and gradually develops with Hawke. I assume she would be a window into her/his past or what parts of her/his life are dealt with off screen in time skips.

Also, a part of me can't help squee at the thought of playing my usual mage with another mage as my sister. Sibling spell combos! W00t! (Yes, I'm that easy to please at times. :P)


And I already have a thousand ideas about the possibilities this presents (and that will most likely be wasted by Bioware). 

I mean how cool would it be, if she would always be of the opposite gender of the main hero and would start a relationship with the possible romances for the main hero. 

E.g. if Hawke is a guy, his sister would start a romance with the guy, that would normally be possible romance for a female Hawke. 

And there are a lot more possibilities...
 

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One comment to the screenshots: Sorry Bioware but the graphcs so far really turn me off. The environment textures look totally dull without any detail. Weapons and armor of the Darkspawn? look ridiculous not the least bit intimidating. The main character looks like he is directly imported from Final Fantasy or some other Japanese RPG.  I really hope that the final game will have a style similar to DA:O. I don't know how to phrase it, perhaps more traditional medieval style?


Remember!!! This is a worn in progress!! I think it'll be a lot better than that when the game comes out!!

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Gerudan wrote...

And I already have a thousand ideas about the possibilities this presents (and that will most likely be wasted by Bioware). 

They should hire you.

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I wish that Hawke's sister is a little sister, it would be far more amusing than the annoying Wynne-type big sis. :D

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 NEWSFLASH!

Flemeth : Die mächtige Gestaltwandlerin und Mutter von Morrigan aus Dragon Age: Origins ist auch in Dragon Age 2 wieder mit von der Partie. 

Translation: "The mage shapeshifter and mother of Morrigan from Dragon Age Origins is also in Dragon Age 2 and again with the party."

This doesn't make sense. They either mean Morrigan or Flemeth when they say this... what the? Morrigan is in the party? :?


Disregard that, look at this puppy instead!

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 SO EXCITED I COULD EXPLODE

THAT CAN BE MISINTERPRETED I KNOW


Mike Hawke tends to do that. B)


If Hawke's sibling could change gender/class to complement the player character that could be nice but I highly doubt that will be the case : gender because of VO problems, class because she may be tied to whatever reason they found to allow the PC to be a mage in the first place, and she probably has a set personality/story that couldn't accomodate theses changes.
Now if they could have her skin/hair/eye colors dynamically change to loosely match those of the PC so that they look like siblings that would be nice but I'm afraid we'll have to rely on mods for that too (and console users will be stuck with default Bethany).

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I like the look of that mage robe and the animation as she's casting that spell.

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Estel78 wrote...

Gerudan wrote...

And I already have a thousand ideas about the possibilities this presents (and that will most likely be wasted by Bioware). 

They should hire you.


My point was more like: EVEN I have a ton of good ideas, so Bioware better has some, too.=]

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 NEWSFLASH!

Flemeth : Die mächtige Gestaltwandlerin und Mutter von Morrigan aus Dragon Age: Origins ist auch in Dragon Age 2 wieder mit von der Partie. 

Translation: "The mage shapeshifter and mother of Morrigan from Dragon Age Origins is also in Dragon Age 2 and again with the party."

This doesn't make sense. They either mean Morrigan or Flemeth when they say this... what the? Morrigan is in the party? :?



"mit von der Patie" is a common phrase in German, it rather means, that she is again in the game not specially "is again with the party". 

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 NEWSFLASH!

Flemeth : Die mächtige Gestaltwandlerin und Mutter von Morrigan aus Dragon Age: Origins ist auch in Dragon Age 2 wieder mit von der Partie. 

Translation: "The mage shapeshifter and mother of Morrigan from Dragon Age Origins is also in Dragon Age 2 and again with the party."

This doesn't make sense. They either mean Morrigan or Flemeth when they say this... what the? Morrigan is in the party? :?


they use a specific phrase in german so your translation is wrong :unsure:, they say that she is in the game, not that she is in the players party

but i wonder... in witch way did she survive i clearly killed her in origins... could it be that you meet her erly in the game and she dies when she could die in origin? or did she performe a takeover of morrigan or another daughter? or was it all planned by morrigan and flemeth? and the fight against her just another test if you are worthy of being the father of morigans child? ... well i could continue endlessy

Modifié par ald0s, 14 juillet 2010 - 03:25 .


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I look forward to learning more about this Bethany.

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 NEWSFLASH!

Flemeth : Die mächtige Gestaltwandlerin und Mutter von Morrigan aus Dragon Age: Origins ist auch in Dragon Age 2 wieder mit von der Partie. 

Translation: "The mage shapeshifter and mother of Morrigan from Dragon Age Origins is also in Dragon Age 2 and again with the party."

This doesn't make sense. They either mean Morrigan or Flemeth when they say this... what the? Morrigan is in the party? :?

That is a saying in german. It doesn't necessarily mean she is literally with the party, just that she's part of the game.

Modifié par Estel78, 14 juillet 2010 - 03:24 .


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Are the graphic "changes" being done to accommodate console performance?



That is the only reason I can see for the change, which looks markedly worse IMO.

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@Lucy - I'm liking my Morrigan stole Flemeth's name theory more now in light of that. I would prefer the actual Flemeth to be a companion, but I'm beginning to doubt it will happen. Edit: Ah, it was a mistranslation. Le sigh.

@Gerudan - Honestly, I wouldn't like that idea even if it was financially viable. It would cheapen the character a little for me. I prefer she has own her set personality and identity. I want Bethany to be her own woman and not merely LadyHawke's sibling sidekick the way Imoen was to Charname in the Baldur's Gate series. I'm with the school of thought she would be more interesting as an older sister, but younger can work too as long as she is portrayed as being her own person who doesn't live in LadyHawke's shadow.

I do really like the idea of her competing with my character for love interests. That would add lots of juicy conflict. At least as long as it's shown as a friendly rivalry and doesn't end in a fight to the death. :P I'm also tired of the sibling villain trope. Hopefully she doesn't turn into an antagonist at some point.

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Ah, I didn't know that saying. Sorry, I don't live in Germany, I don't know phrases >.<

edit: I actually don't think Flemeth is a name, tbh. I think it's a being. From what Morrigan says about it in the game, she makes it out to be a demon or ancient evil spirit of some kind. Perhaps an Old God, even. She just has children so she has a safe body to enter when the body she is in dies. 

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 14 juillet 2010 - 03:31 .


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Gerudan wrote...

My point was more like: EVEN I have a ton of good ideas, so Bioware better has some, too.=]

Some things only sound good on paper. Also, one must not ignore feasibility. For instance, your suggestion of the sibling changing gender would eat lots of resources.

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@Lucy - Oh, I agree. I'm sure Flemeth is a real person... or thing. And I believe the woman we met in Origins was the entity in its latest host. What I was trying to say is that since DA2 doesn't take place too long after DAO, the Flemeth we meet could be Morrigan using her name to capitalize on its infamy. She could get a lot more done if people thought she was the legendary Flemeth rather than an apostate mage few outside Ferelden are likely aware of.

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Ah, I see, I see. Then I definitely can see that.

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haberman13 wrote...

Are the graphic "changes" being done to accommodate console performance?

That is the only reason I can see for the change, which looks markedly worse IMO.

That doesn't make much sense. DAO ran on consoles, didn't it?

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Seagloom wrote...

@Lucy - Oh, I agree. I'm sure Flemeth is a real person... or thing. And I believed that we met her in the flesh in Origins. What I was trying to say is that since DA2 doesn't take place too long after DAO, the Flemeth we meet could be Morrigan using her name to capitalize on its infamy. She could get a lot more done if people thought she was the legendary Flemeth rather than an apostate mage few outside Ferelden are likely aware of.


the german articel says that the plot of dragon age 2 play parallel to dragon age origins at the beginning

that means you could also meet her when she is still alive

just a thought