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 After introducing the audience to such a tantalizing prospect as Morrigan's god child, Bioware devs are now doing everything in their power to kill him. 

They are refusing him the right to see the light of day. They fear that if he is allowed to thrive, he will overturn Thedas and upstage Andraste

Well against such odds...the god child does not stand a chance.

How unfair! To deny an innocent child the rights other newborn citizens of Ferelden freely inherit..."sigh"

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Huh? Are you in an unventilated room or something?

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He might still show up in the future.

Also, many of our characters refused that vile rituals. I would have put Morrigan to the sword there if the game would let me.

Modifié par Lord_Saulot, 14 juillet 2010 - 12:50 .


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Look. Okay. What do you want them to do? When people couldn't import their world state into Awakening with a dead Warden, there was an uproar! Either we're allowed to import decisions, in which case the God Child cannot become too important, or we're not, in which case over half this fanbase will start foaming at the mouth and demanding skulls for the throne of Khorne.

As things stand, it looks like BioWare chose to allow us to import our decisions instead of imposing a "canon" on the first game. They're not killing the God Baby, they're giving the majority what they wanted.

Modifié par Ulicus, 14 juillet 2010 - 12:53 .


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Whachu talkin' bout Willis? If anything, they seem to be making the future in which the god child exists the only canon one by retconning the others.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Whachu talkin' bout Willis? If anything, they seem to be making the future in which the god child exists the only canon one by retconning the others.

How? We've been told that we import our Warden's decisions over into DA2.

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I want the god child to be in future DA games its the best ending in the game! seriously who wants to become Alistairs queen and run of somewhere and live happily ever after?

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me 2 god child be awesome story it would make me excited to get to the end of the game to see what happens, hawk is just utterly boring to me why would i wanna here about a guy who has no connection to this story or the blight

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Druss99 wrote...

Huh? Are you in an unventilated room or something?



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Make him die? The thing's already dead! I mean, never existed to begin with.

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so why was it a option then?

plus awkening carried on this story to a certain degree such as ur warden being alive and still searching for morrigan at the end

Modifié par Revenant Horror, 14 juillet 2010 - 01:14 .


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Ulicus wrote...

Look. Okay. What do you want them to do? When people couldn't import their world state into Awakening with a dead Warden, there was an uproar! Either we're allowed to import decisions, in which case the God Child cannot become too important, or we're not, in which case over half this fanbase will start foaming at the mouth and demanding skulls for the throne of Khorne.


I want them to be consistent.

I want them to end the tales they have begun, before setting out on a new one. If they'd not foreseen that making an openended ending to the first installment would cause demands to see where ALL these ending would head, they should not have done it.

I doubt there are more than a handful of players who do not have a savegame where they have performed the ritual, so making a continuation that makes use of the Godchild is not difficult at all.

Likewise, they -could- have made the ending where the warden dies canon, and have DA2 pick up there. Most ppl have a savegame like that as well, but they didn't. They made DA:A, and left us with a cliffhanger ending, after having played through a mediocre expansion. So now people are well within their rights when they demand an opportunity to end DA1 (DA:O + DA:A)

Instead Bioware goes for options that are limiting and narrowing. Abandoning old characters, fixed, voice-acted protagonist, archetype franchise and short development time. It is all so depressing, that I think I'll go and play BG2 instead! Or Warhammer: Blood for the Bloodgod, skulls for the throne of KHOOOORRRNNNEEEE!!!! :wub:

Modifié par TMZuk, 14 juillet 2010 - 01:15 .


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Ulicus wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Whachu talkin' bout Willis? If anything, they seem to be making the future in which the god child exists the only canon one by retconning the others.

How? We've been told that we import our Warden's decisions over into DA2.

Just like how my Warden was able to be imported to Awakening, yet the most important decision of all was simply shoved ignored.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Whachu talkin' bout Willis? If anything, they seem to be making the future in which the god child exists the only canon one by retconning the others.

How? We've been told that we import our Warden's decisions over into DA2.

Just like how my Warden was able to be imported to Awakening, yet the most important decision of all was simply shoved ignored.

Touché. Though we don't know that it's going to be the same thing, here.

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yep thats the best argument ive heard we all got saved files of diffrent choices what they should do is scrap these standalone dlc which we will play 1-5 times and replace it with dlc of your choices to bring the wardens story to a close.

Modifié par Revenant Horror, 14 juillet 2010 - 01:22 .


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We didn't even see the f***ing trailer yet and already everyone is jumping to conclusions


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Chanegade wrote...

We didn't even see the f***ing trailer yet and already everyone is jumping to conclusions


no we know there is no god child for a fact

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Heheheh, I wasn't sure whether I should write "shoved aside" or "ignored", seems like I pressed the reply button a little too early.



If anything, though, making the choice that leads to the arguably more promising plot canon seems like a conscious choice on BioWare's part. I would've argued the same as you before Awakening, though, that the possibility of the child not even existing would make it's possible role rather small, but alas.

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Revenant Horror wrote...

Chanegade wrote...

We didn't even see the f***ing trailer yet and already everyone is jumping to conclusions


no we know there is no god child for a fact


Really? I didn't see that anywhere.

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Ahhh this really pisses me off. I want a bloody ending before I play as this cheese stick Hawke.

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Revenant Horror wrote...



Chanegade wrote...



We didn't even see the f***ing trailer yet and already everyone is jumping to conclusions




no we know there is no god child for a fact


We know that the character of Hawke isn't the god child, but then again it wouldn't be the first time BioWare has lied to us (first admitting Legion is a squaddie, then later retracting that statement). Dragon lady could potentially be the result of the Dark Ritual, though.

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It is extremely simple.



Many people did not perform the Dark Ritual. Therefore, the god child cannot be a large part of DA2 if decisions are going to be at all taken into consideration. Stop assuming everyone did the nasty with Morrigan.

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Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

It is extremely simple.

Many people did not perform the Dark Ritual. Therefore, the god child cannot be a large part of DA2 if decisions are going to be at all taken into consideration. Stop assuming everyone did the nasty with Morrigan.

Like I said, Awakening seems to assume that you did. Therefore it seems likely that they'll go with that path for the rest of the series.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Like I said, Awakening seems to assume that you did. Therefore it seems likely that they'll go with that path for the rest of the series.


How disappointing. What are the chances the expansion was written by a different team and that the core DA writing team would ignore this... little oversight?

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Dragon Age 2 seems to begin a little while after the Warden leaves Lothering in Dragon Age.

It is made clear in the Dwarf Noble origin that sufficient time passes between the night before the Warden's first command and his return to Orzammar for a Dwarven child to be concieved, carried to term and born, this may not be 9 months, but it will be months so we can probably assume that it takes around a year to reach the time of the Landsmeet. It will probably take another 9 months after that for this god child to be born. This will probably be 2 years into the timeline of Dragon Age 2.

Dragon Age 2 apparently spans a period of a decade, so the god child will be 8 by the end of Dragon Age 2... probably too young to be making any grand displays of POWAH... look to DA3 maybe?