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[MaxQuartiroli]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

It is extremely simple.

Many people did not perform the Dark Ritual. Therefore, the god child cannot be a large part of DA2 if decisions are going to be at all taken into consideration. Stop assuming everyone did the nasty with Morrigan.

Like I said, Awakening seems to assume that you did. Therefore it seems likely that they'll go with that path for the rest of the series.

Awakening didn't assume that I did it.. In my game Loghain killed the Archdemon.
In Awakening he didn't show up with his cameo because he was dead...
Therefore Awakening assumed that I didn't perfom any DR...

[TMZuk]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

It is extremely simple.

Many people did not perform the Dark Ritual. Therefore, the god child cannot be a large part of DA2 if decisions are going to be at all taken into consideration. Stop assuming everyone did the nasty with Morrigan.

Like I said, Awakening seems to assume that you did. Therefore it seems likely that they'll go with that path for the rest of the series.

Awakening didn't assume that I did it.. In my game Loghain killed the Archdemon.
In Awakening he didn't show up with his cameo because he was dead...
Therefore Awakening assumed that I didn't perfom any DR...

LOL. No. Alistair kills Loghain, Morrigan's ritual performed,  will result in Loghain not showing up in DA:A either, of course.

And... why is it a -Dark- ritual? My male human noble kinda liked it. :innocent: He liked Morrigan too, poor sod.

[BlackyBlack]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Whachu talkin' bout Willis? If anything, they seem to be making the future in which the god child exists the only canon one by retconning the others.

She probably found some other grey warden to impregnate her

[Tezzajh]

i do not usually pick the ritual but if i had to pick a carry on it would be the god child and there is always a way that they can explain it with a little 1 min movie, it seems to me that the god child has the most potential for a more exciting story, and like people have been saying you could have a saved file where you don the ritual or even start a new game to do it, and would it be really be that drastic if they did cannon the ending ? as ive said its a ending it wont effect how origins plays out you could keep all your other decisions e.g keep the anvil to get a golem which does effect origins and you could always make a new guy in awkening so your choicefor the dark ritual wont effect that either.

[Tezzajh]

My argument to shut everyone up lol is to wait for the movie if he does the ritual in the Dragon age movie we will see what BIOWARES ending is

[Quinnzel]

BlackyBlack wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Whachu talkin' bout Willis? If anything, they seem to be making the future in which the god child exists the only canon one by retconning the others.

She probably found some other grey warden to impregnate her

After the ArchDemons death? Doesnt make sense. If you turn down the offer and have either your Warden or Alistair/Loghain make the finishing blow, then there would be no point in Morrigan getting impregnated by someone else after the fact (the Old Gods soul destroys/is consumed with the Warden that killsit) unless you're going to tell me she killed another ArchDemon after the game just to be impregnated by another Warden. (she's really not that heartless y'know!)


To make the most sense and to have any chance of proper conintuity (unless they pull a fast one, Thats you Im talkin bout Mister Galder ) anything to do with the God-Baby would have to use your import from DA:O to determine its status.

Who know, DA2 or future titles might just do that exactly. They havent said a lot about what's going to be imported have they other than 'Major Decisions'. I would love them to make my BeardWarden X Morrigan romance and god-baby canon, but the best way for everyone would be if whatever game it pertained to relied on your own story import.

Modifié par Quinnzel, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:33 .

[Dick Delaware]

Flemeth will be in DAII, so we might get more information on this plotline after all. It's a good sequel hook, and I don't know why they'd just leave it hanging like that. Canon be damned, it has potential to create a lot of interesting choices and a storyline that is a lot more involved than BioWare's usual fare.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Dick Delaware wrote...

Flemeth will be in DAII . . .

Flemeth turned into a dragon and I slew her.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Now that we have more than a confirmation that people could import saves, I trust we shouldn't fear anymore they could canon something.. DR included. (at least I hope)

I trust it might have some role in the game only for people who did it...

[Dick Delaware]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Dick Delaware wrote...

Flemeth will be in DAII . . .

Flemeth turned into a dragon and I slew her.

Remember the conversation with Morrigan, though. That it really isn't the "end" of Flemeth and that she'll likely return. Regardless of what you did, Flemeth comes back eventually.

[Ulicus]

I'd love for Morrigan's child to be the protagonist or companion of a future Dragon Age (9:50ish)... especially if whether they were the GOD child depended entirely on your choice in DA:O. Morrigan doesn't need a ritual to get knocked up, after all, and you don't need the power of an old God locked away inside you to be an interesting character.

Modifié par Ulicus, 14 juillet 2010 - 02:46 .

[Tenkari]

Dick Delaware wrote...

Flemeth will be in DAII, so we might get more information on this plotline after all. It's a good sequel hook, and I don't know why they'd just leave it hanging like that. Canon be damned, it has potential to create a lot of interesting choices and a storyline that is a lot more involved than BioWare's usual fare.

So for those of us who offed her in DA:O she some how comes back? Taht doesnt bode well for morrigan then..... since morrigan is the only body "trained" for her to posess.

[Quinnzel]

Ulicus wrote...

I'd love for Morrigan's child to be the protagonist or companion of a future Dragon Age (9:50ish)... especially if whether they were the GOD child depended entirely on your choice in DA:O. Morrigan doesn't need a ritual to get knocked up, after all, and you don't need the power of an old God locked away inside you to be an interesting character.

That actually brings up a good point. If you romanced her and had sex but then turn down the DR, it still mentions later on that she was seen with child. I wonder if this could have been the equivelent of setting up multi origins (or classes) for a later games protaganist.

You could have the 'basic' origin of a son/daughter of Morrigan without the DR. (Male romance, no Dark Ritual)

An origin where you are in fact the result of the DR. This could also be affected by the fact if it was a  Male Romance decision, or if you put Alistair/Loghain up to it. (Dark Ritual origin)

An origin for a son/daughter of the LadyWardens whom didnt want Alistair shacking up with Morrigan. *shudders at thought* Perhaps a noble born/ son of the King sort of thing?

[Kaiser Shepard]

I doubt that they'd actually implement that many variations when they didn't with Awakening. Mr. Gaider has also remained quiet on this matter when I asked him, so I fear the worst.

[ArcanistLibram]

Seeing as how I have several playthroughs where the Godchild was never even conceived, having it show up again in any important role would be problematic.

[DanteCousland]

If you didn't do the DR I assume Morrigan still got pregnant, just from somebody else. To powerful, dertermined and sexy not too...

[zahra]

I am tired of the god child concept (and also of Morrigan). Would be glad if that plot point just conveniently got forgotten.

[Quinnzel]

zahra wrote...

I am tired of the god child concept (and also of Morrigan). Would be glad if that plot point just conveniently got forgotten.

I would be glad if the whole idea of Marics bastard son got conveniently forgotten, but then there'd be a whole lot of Alistair obsessed fan-girls out for blood. Same would apply to all of the Morrigan obsessed fan boys like me if all mention of her and the child were 'conveniently forgotten'.

At least the god-child is an interesting plot hook.

[Svest]

The writers could easily add in an explanation as to how Morrigan still got the god-child even if you didn't do the dark ritual if they want to. We are talking about magic here. Its not too inconceivable that Morrigan would have a Plan B.



I'm not saying that they will do that, I have no idea what direction they plan to take the story in. However, the people saying its impossible because they didn't perform the MAGIC ritual are being a bit silly. When you accept the existence of magic you must also accept that nothing is impossible when the explanation can simply be "a wizard did it."

[zahra]

Quinnzel wrote...

zahra wrote...

I am tired of the god child concept (and also of Morrigan). Would be glad if that plot point just conveniently got forgotten.

I would be glad if the whole idea of Marics bastard son got conveniently forgotten, but then there'd be a whole lot of Alistair obsessed fan-girls out for blood. Same would apply to all of the Morrigan obsessed fan boys like me if all mention of her and the child were 'conveniently forgotten'.

At least the god-child is an interesting plot hook.

True, (I am more of a Zevran/Leliana girl myself) I just don't find Morrigan appealing as a character and as a female who used to play as a female Warden, I couldn't care less about a baby spawned by Alistair/Loghain and Morrigan. 

But you are entitled to you are opinion, as am I.

[triggerhappy456]

the god child seemed certain to appear in a sequel

surely there would be no point in putting that incredibly important idea in only to abandon it later

however, if the decisions are carried over it seems difficult to make it a certain place

guess we should just wait for biowares decision and trust them

[Revenant Horror]

expansion,dlc or dragon age 3 i want the god child

[Behindyounow]

triggerhappy456 wrote...

the god child seemed certain to appear in a sequel
surely there would be no point in putting that incredibly important idea in only to abandon it later
however, if the decisions are carried over it seems difficult to make it a certain place
guess we should just wait for biowares decision and trust them

If it was such an important plot point, it would've been mandatory.

[Ashaman X]

I do believe that the god child will show up in some way or another. As has been said, it's too big a plot hook not to be used. I did it myself, and will do it again next playthrough. My Warden knows his responsibilities, and if he has to, he will go after the child if the child turns dangerous.



What I'm more curious about is what the Maker would think of this. Interested in humanity or not, he must still be aware of what's going on. I wonder what he would think of my Warden after he eventually dies, since the Maker does not like the Old Gods. Hmmm

[MaxQuartiroli]

triggerhappy456 wrote...

the god child seemed certain to appear in a sequel
surely there would be no point in putting that incredibly important idea in only to abandon it later
however, if the decisions are carried over it seems difficult to make it a certain place
guess we should just wait for biowares decision and trust them

I suggest EVERYONE should read what Gaider said here in this topic, yesterday
http://social.biowar...ex/3130023&lf=8
Not only there isn't a single chanche to see something about it in DA2, but there isn't anything planned for the future yet..