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[MaxQuartiroli]

Archereon wrote...
(DR looks as if its getting canonized.)

Where? Why? For what reason?

To be honest I read many confirmation of BW devs which are working hardly for allow us to transfer our saved games with all our decisions from Origins to the Sequel, even if we want to switch platform !

If they care so much about decisions and they are working so hard on that this just means they won't canonize anything....

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 14 juillet 2010 - 07:04 .

[Lord_Saulot]

I was hoping for a second DAO expansion, and I'm going to hold out hope until I know better. But I do hope that this is more DAO content of some sort, in any case. I could have sworn that we had an indication that the February date was something separate from DA2, but I don't know.

[Demx]

It was probably DA2's projected release date; you shouldn't try to find too much meaning to it.

[jjkrogs]

TheMadCat wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

I hope to god its not the anime.

There's nothing else it could be. The only thing listed on EA's financial roadmap was the unnamed Dragon Age project in their FY Q4 and that's already been confirmed as DA2. A retail expansion would have had a large enough cost and a return to warrant alerting their investors of, since there was nothing listed don't expect one to come.

Did it mention 2011, by chance, or just 2010?  Wouldn't DA2 count toward 2011?

[Bubian]

Considering they said we'll get about 2 years worth of DA:O DLC/expansions, the date in Awakening could very well be another expansion for our current warden to Origins, which I'm hoping for.

Modifié par Bubian, 14 juillet 2010 - 07:06 .

[Lord_Saulot]

DAO was certainly the sort of game that could support a second expansion.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Siradix wrote...

It was probably DA2's projected release date; you shouldn't try to find too much meaning to it.

I don't think they would have gone to the time and trouble of having those cards printed and placed inside of the Awakening packaging for it to have been DA2 and they up and change the date.  They printed those cards for a reason. 


Also, didn't the announcement come out on the anime movie after Awakenings was released?  I think it did. Didn't this happen in May/June?    

[TheMadCat]

jjkrogs wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Behindyounow wrote...

I hope to god its not the anime.

There's nothing else it could be. The only thing listed on EA's financial roadmap was the unnamed Dragon Age project in their FY Q4 and that's already been confirmed as DA2. A retail expansion would have had a large enough cost and a return to warrant alerting their investors of, since there was nothing listed don't expect one to come.

Did it mention 2011, by chance, or just 2010?  Wouldn't DA2 count toward 2011?

FY( Fiscal Year) Q4 for EA is January-March, so yes it mentioned the unnanouced DA project (DA2 now) would be early 2011, matching the target release. The anime is also slated for ealy 2011 if I'm not mistaken. Plus it makes sense from a marketing perspective, use the massive hype generated by the games upcoming release to push up sales of the Anime.

[JediHealerCosmin]

Behindyounow wrote...

I hope to god its not the anime.

I hope we don't get another countdown

[Grommash94]

They did say there would be more DLCs...maybe we can expect expansions as well. I for one hope we do get at least ONE.

[Brockololly]

TheMadCat wrote...
A retail expansion would have had a large enough cost and a return to warrant alerting their investors of, since there was nothing listed don't expect one to come.

Looking through EA's past financial statements however, I didn't see any reference of Awakening coming out in FY Q4 2010, either. Maybe I missed it, but perhaps they treat that differently since it could also be considered DLC?

I'd imagine if it is an expansion pack we'd likely hear something about it around November/December time, basically 2-3 months before the February date.

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 juillet 2010 - 07:38 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

phaonica wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the release date for the anime. However I'd be nice if it were an Origins expansion dealing with the God Baby.

I'd rather my Warden were able to deal with the God Baby story, rather than it being part of the DA2 plot, not only because that was part of my Warden's story, but 1) Because if the God Baby turns out to be a bad guy, I'd want a really good reason why my Warden was unable to take up the fight against it, and 2) If Morrigan were suddenly big news in the world, Wardens that were interested in finding her should be given that chance.

I'm in full agreement.

[mione]

It might be an expansion, but for anyone hoping that it will end Morrigan and the god baby story I have to say that you have very little chance of that happening in an expansion pack.



The Flemeth/Morrigan/God Baby story is Bioware's ticket to selling and telling more stories in this series. It is very likely that the woman in DA2 is Flemeth (although I really like the theory of flemeth being an title and not just one person.) so we will be getting more information about that group of women already.



People have to understand that "Origins" wasn't an "end all tell all" story with one main character it was only the beginning. The "Origins" of that child which will play out through out the series.

[Brockololly]

mione wrote...

It might be an expansion, but for anyone hoping that it will end Morrigan and the god baby story I have to say that you have very little chance of that happening in an expansion pack.

The Flemeth/Morrigan/God Baby story is Bioware's ticket to selling and telling more stories in this series. It is very likely that the woman in DA2 is Flemeth (although I really like the theory of flemeth being an title and not just one person.) so we will be getting more information about that group of women already.

People have to understand that "Origins" wasn't an "end all tell all" story with one main character it was only the beginning. The "Origins" of that child which will play out through out the series.

Here is my problem with that approach: If they want DA to be all about consequences and emotionally engaging stories, if they're going to bring Morrigan back into the fold, to me it makes a much more engaging narrative if its the Warden who consented to the Dark Ritual to have to deal with the consequences of that action, rather than some new PC like Hawke who has nothing to do with that choice. The DR consists of 2 things- it creates the OGB but also allows the Warden to live on. If the Warden is just cast aside like a disposable plot element post-Awakening, whats the bother of letting them live on as a result of the DR in the first place?

Given how Awakening ends with the Warden just kind of disappearing without any rhyme or reason, if Morrigan shows up again for whatever reason, I'd find it supremely frustrating when my Warden is supposed to be out there looking for Morrigan. Just give the Warden some sort of closure on the Morrigan/DR front and then I'd be willing for them to move on with the Morrigan/Flemeth plot in other games, if thats their plan.

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:08 .

[mione]

Brockololly wrote...

mione wrote...

It might be an expansion, but for anyone hoping that it will end Morrigan and the god baby story I have to say that you have very little chance of that happening in an expansion pack.

The Flemeth/Morrigan/God Baby story is Bioware's ticket to selling and telling more stories in this series. It is very likely that the woman in DA2 is Flemeth (although I really like the theory of flemeth being an title and not just one person.) so we will be getting more information about that group of women already.

People have to understand that "Origins" wasn't an "end all tell all" story with one main character it was only the beginning. The "Origins" of that child which will play out through out the series.

Here is my problem with that approach: If they want DA to be all about consequences and emotionally engaging stories, if they're going to bring Morrigan back into the fold, to me it makes a much more engaging narrative if its the Warden who consented to the Dark Ritual to have to deal with the consequences of that action, rather than some new PC like Hawke who has nothing to do with that choice. The DR consists of 2 things- it creates the OGB but also allows the Warden to live on. If the Warden is just cast aside like a disposable plot element post-Awakening, whats the bother of letting them live on as a result of the DR in the first place?

Given how Awakening ends with the Warden just kind of disappearing without any rhyme or reason, if Morrigan shows up again for whatever reason, I'd find it supremely frustrating when my Warden is supposed to be out there looking for Morrigan. Just give the Warden some sort of closure on the Morrigan/DR front and then I'd be willing for them to move on with the Morrigan/Flemeth plot in other games, if thats their plan.

I have no doubt the Warden story will get closure, but it just won't be in DA2 (DA3 anyone?) for some reason Hawke is important to the world of Thedas and the overall story that Bioware is telling, why is that? well we will find out when we play 2.

Besides for the timeline that DA2 takes place the child will only be about 10/9 I always figure that when we did finally meet up with her ( having the soul of  the dragon of beauty, doesn't sound very manly lol ) it will be 18/20 years later with our Duncan aged Warden.

Modifié par mione, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:19 .

[Bratt1204]

jjkrogs wrote...



Considering the recent announcement of DA2, and the information stating they're going into a whole new story, is it likely that this card, found in Awakening, is actually the 2nd expansion to DA?  Will it bridge the apparent gap between your current PC and the new story?

I'm inclined to believe that it is.  First, many have speculated that it's a new BioWare game, but the card clearly refers to the DA universe (See:  large red dragon indicative of previous DA marketing), so any alternate theories, in my opinion, can be rejected.  It's suggesting more Dragon Age content.  Period.  And I will go so far as to say they wouldn't have been so bold, or spent the time/money, of placing such a teaser into a game package-- an expansion game package, unless it were a solid date they meant to stick by.  But for what, then?

While I realize forum moderators don't support release date speculation on DA2, it's widely believed DA2 won't be ready by Feb, so this card cannot be referring to DA2.  It's also been stated that there is more content being released for DAO before DA2. 

Finally, there is a trend lately to release 2 full expansions to successful RPGs.  Neverwinter Nights had Shadows of Undrentide and Hoards of the Underdark.  Neverwinter Nights 2 had Mask of the Betrayer and Storm of Zehir.

I firmly believe that this card refers to the 2nd and final full expansion of Dragon Age Origins to be released between now and DA2.  It probably will include a full import of your DAO PC and set a concluding saga to your character, which in my opinion, needs to end with either heroic death (again, for some) or The Calling.  More importantly, it will set the stage for DA2 and answer many questions we currently have regarding the story and plot to be expected.

The story of your current PC is not over, folks. 

Well, let's see -  giving us an expansion to DA:O with a proper storyline continuation would be something almost everyone would actually WANT - so no, I highly doubt Bioware would give its customers something they really want. Now how could that possibly make any sense

[Brockololly]

mione wrote...
I have no doubt the Warden story will get closure, but it just won't be in DA2 (DA3 anyone?) for some reason Hawke is important to the world of Thedas and the overall story that Bioware is telling, why is that? well we will find out when we play 2.

Besides for the timeline that DA2 takes place the child will only be about 10/9 I always figure that when we did finally meet up with her ( having the soul of  the dragon of beauty, doesn't sound very manly lol ) it will be 18/20 years later with our Duncan aged Warden.

I will say that if DA3 brings the Warden back into the picture as the PC, maybe with Hawke as an important NPC or something (since he/she is voiced), that would be AMAZING.

[jjkrogs]

I'm not convinced the market report was talking about DA2, as I believe it's still too far off to be the 'unnamed DA project' in fiscal year 2010, though I could be wrong.



And from a marketing perspective, wouldn't it be a good idea to announce a full sequel (DA2) to get the excitement up BEFORE announcing an expansion pack? Why not then claim the expansion is a must-have to keep the storyline intact for a continuation of the broader story into the new game? To me, thinking like a marketeer (not to be confused with Mouseketeer), prior fan knowledge that the DA universe will continue in a sequel would help expansion sales since it would capitalize on the excitement of the next installment by allowing fans to get their fix in the meantime, and again, provide the story bridge.

[dheer]

I wish it were so but I doubt it. Good to see someone keep the faith though.

[Ulicus]

I'd love another expansion pack for the first game. Especially if it actually expanded on the game instead of simply being a self-contained mini-sequel. I want to have access to Awakening abilities and the like in Origins.

[jjkrogs]

I've pulled some David Gaider quotes from a very current post, and read into it a bit to perhaps add more evidence of my theory...

"1) Repeatedly making threads on the subject will not make Morrigan come back to your Warden sooner."

--Here Gaider was answering a post from someone (one of many) who is upset because his Origins PC does not continue into DA2. What I find interesting is the clarifyer "sooner" at the end of his statement. Why not just say, without a shadow of doubt, that your Warden's story is over?

The next statement, however, is the kicker...

"2) You will need to wait and see what (and if anything) happens with Morrigan in the future. Insofar as DA2 is concerned, the Warden's story is done. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but that's simply the way it is."

Again, Gaider keeps focused on the fact that DA2, specifically, does not continue the Warden's story. Why not just say the Warden's story in DA is over and end any further speculation?

To use his words, "You will need to wait and see."

Modifié par jjkrogs, 15 juillet 2010 - 05:13 .

[TheMadCat]

I think you're looking way, way, way to hard at those comments.

[FieryDove]

jjkrogs wrote...

I firmly believe that this card refers to the 2nd and final full expansion of Dragon Age Origins to be released between now and DA2.  

I would buy it but the timing would be wrong, too short a time for DA2, DAO:expansion 2 and TOR, they would be competing with themselves...

[SirOccam]

Were they maybe hoping to release DA2 then, but later decided they needed another month?

I dunno. Seems odd to have such a teaser just for DLC unless it was something really special. As some have said, it could be the anime. Another expansion would be great, but that would be shooting themselves in the foot releasing so much stuff together.

[jjkrogs]

TheMadCat wrote...

I think you're looking way, way, way to hard at those comments.

Perhaps, if Gaider wasn't a writer.  Every word has a meaning to someone who knows how to use them.  Writers don't throw around extraneous words.  Assuming I even spelled extraneous correctly.