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02.01.2011-- Conclusion to DAO, Segeway into DA2? New Expansion?


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Keep in mind that the calling doesn't happen in decades.

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jjkrogs wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

I think you're looking way, way, way to hard at those comments.



Perhaps, if Gaider wasn't a writer.  Every word has a meaning to someone who knows how to use them.  Writers don't throw around extraneous words.  Assuming I even spelled extraneous correctly.


If we were talking about a book sure, you might have a point. But this is David simply answering a question and covering his bases. Obviously it wouldn't be wise to lay a flat out denial out because who knows what they may want to do 10 years from now. Not everything written by David has a double meaning  or coded message, pretty much everytime what you see is exactly what is meant to be implied.

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Know that I think about it, if the expansion 2 had our gray warden as an older person fighting off the old god baby who was a may turn into a dragon... isnt that the story of Beowulf? lol character has sex with the witch and then is put into a position of power and what not for 30 years.... and then BAM old god/dragon infused person attacks the warden in a duel fatal for both? yep sounds like Beowulf, or a least the lastest rendition of Beowulf. lol



Seriously though, another expansion would be cool and it would be best for closing the whole Dark Ritual choice at the end of Origins.

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Warheadz wrote...

I am convinced that they are not going to waste Morrigans story in some expansion, not after how they built it in DA:O. That's only my opinion, but i honestly believe Morrigan to be a important part of the coming DA games, not expansion packs.


Expansion I could actually live with!
If they waste it on a DLC, im going to be sooooo pissed off cause im done with Bioware DLC until they publiccally embrace $1.00 for 1 hour content.

Leliannas 2.5 hours for $7.50 was the final straw

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Kalfear wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

I am convinced that they are not going to waste Morrigans story in some expansion, not after how they built it in DA:O. That's only my opinion, but i honestly believe Morrigan to be a important part of the coming DA games, not expansion packs.


Expansion I could actually live with!
If they waste it on a DLC, im going to be sooooo pissed off cause im done with Bioware DLC until they publiccally embrace $1.00 for 1 hour content.

Leliannas 2.5 hours for $7.50 was the final straw


Plus it was bugged to hell. I swear I think the DAO debugg team sleeps during there job.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Kalfear wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

I am convinced that they are not going to waste Morrigans story in some expansion, not after how they built it in DA:O. That's only my opinion, but i honestly believe Morrigan to be a important part of the coming DA games, not expansion packs.


Expansion I could actually live with!
If they waste it on a DLC, im going to be sooooo pissed off cause im done with Bioware DLC until they publiccally embrace $1.00 for 1 hour content.

Leliannas 2.5 hours for $7.50 was the final straw


Plus it was bugged to hell. I swear I think the DAO debugg team sleeps during there job.


Really the expansion and the DLC were buggy then hell :(

I had next to no issues with DA:O ( I have PC and 360 versions), whats changed since then that Awakening and Lelianna's Song were so bad?

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Well they said we are getting another DLC at least. Maybe it is an expansion I would love it, but I see EA doing something like this import you're choices from DA:O into DA:OExpansion then you can import you're Warden's choices from DA:OExpansion into DA:2 they get more money that way lol. I'm curious on how an Expansion would work though since we have Awakening would we have to import our Awakening version of the Warden or could be skip it? A level 35ish Warden storming through 10 more levels worth of content would be fun god mode though and near impossible to balance combat wise, but we could get our closure and final chapter of our Warden if they choose that this is the end of him in the Dragon Age universe.

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Kalfear wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Kalfear wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

I am convinced that they are not going to waste Morrigans story in some expansion, not after how they built it in DA:O. That's only my opinion, but i honestly believe Morrigan to be a important part of the coming DA games, not expansion packs.


Expansion I could actually live with!
If they waste it on a DLC, im going to be sooooo pissed off cause im done with Bioware DLC until they publiccally embrace $1.00 for 1 hour content.

Leliannas 2.5 hours for $7.50 was the final straw


Plus it was bugged to hell. I swear I think the DAO debugg team sleeps during there job.


Really the expansion and the DLC were buggy then hell :(

I had next to no issues with DA:O ( I have PC and 360 versions), whats changed since then that Awakening and Lelianna's Song were so bad?


I have always had problems with DAO and all it's DLC. Either the Wardens commander armor bonus does not work, Shales gifts don't work, Darkspawn chronicls is bugged to hell, Leli's song has so many bugs that effect uploading her character to this site and Awakakaing was just a bug fest. I think Bioware needs a new debug team.

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Im hoping for a xpac explaining why flemeth is back and what happened to morrigan. But it may be the anime

Modifié par BigOzzie, 15 juillet 2010 - 06:35 .


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Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Well they said we are getting another DLC at least. Maybe it is an expansion I would love it, but I see EA doing something like this import you're choices from DA:O into DA:OExpansion then you can import you're Warden's choices from DA:OExpansion into DA:2 they get more money that way lol. I'm curious on how an Expansion would work though since we have Awakening would we have to import our Awakening version of the Warden or could be skip it? A level 35ish Warden storming through 10 more levels worth of content would be fun god mode though and near impossible to balance combat wise, but we could get our closure and final chapter of our Warden if they choose that this is the end of him in the Dragon Age universe.


It would be quite easy, actually, since Awakening had very little to do with the events of DA:O.  If they go the popular "God baby" route, where you're now several years older (10, not coincidentally, to fit the tie-in to DA2) they could cap your starting level and blame it on age and/or taint effect.  Besides, does leveling really matter in DA, with scaling and such?  I rarely noticed much difference, but that's a gripe for another thread...

Modifié par jjkrogs, 15 juillet 2010 - 06:37 .


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jjkrogs wrote...

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Well they said we are getting another DLC at least. Maybe it is an expansion I would love it, but I see EA doing something like this import you're choices from DA:O into DA:OExpansion then you can import you're Warden's choices from DA:OExpansion into DA:2 they get more money that way lol. I'm curious on how an Expansion would work though since we have Awakening would we have to import our Awakening version of the Warden or could be skip it? A level 35ish Warden storming through 10 more levels worth of content would be fun god mode though and near impossible to balance combat wise, but we could get our closure and final chapter of our Warden if they choose that this is the end of him in the Dragon Age universe.


It would be quite easy, actually, since Awakening had very little to do with the events of DA:O.  If they go the popular "God baby" route, where you're now several years older (10, not coincidentally, to fit the tie-in to DA2) they could cap your starting level and blame it on age and/or taint effect.  Besides, does leveling really matter in DA, with scaling and such?  I rarely noticed much difference, but that's a gripe for another thread...


The problem with that though is the next ten years are all about Hawke would be hard to create a canon enviorment at the end of Hawke's reign that would really take a lot of thunder out of the sequel. Even if it was several like 30 to indicate your calling is near the world would have to reflect Hawke's changes which would still canonize Hawke.

Modifié par Jacks Smirking Revenge, 15 juillet 2010 - 06:40 .


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There won't be an expansion. It would confuse people because people who buy games are dumb. Apparently.

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Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

jjkrogs wrote...

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Well they said we are getting another DLC at least. Maybe it is an expansion I would love it, but I see EA doing something like this import you're choices from DA:O into DA:OExpansion then you can import you're Warden's choices from DA:OExpansion into DA:2 they get more money that way lol. I'm curious on how an Expansion would work though since we have Awakening would we have to import our Awakening version of the Warden or could be skip it? A level 35ish Warden storming through 10 more levels worth of content would be fun god mode though and near impossible to balance combat wise, but we could get our closure and final chapter of our Warden if they choose that this is the end of him in the Dragon Age universe.


It would be quite easy, actually, since Awakening had very little to do with the events of DA:O.  If they go the popular "God baby" route, where you're now several years older (10, not coincidentally, to fit the tie-in to DA2) they could cap your starting level and blame it on age and/or taint effect.  Besides, does leveling really matter in DA, with scaling and such?  I rarely noticed much difference, but that's a gripe for another thread...


The problem with that though is the next ten years are all about Hawke would be hard to create a canon enviorment at the end of Hawke's reign that would really take a lot of thunder out of the sequel. Even if it was several like 30 to indicate your calling is near the world would have to reflect Hawke's changes which would still canonize Hawke.


I dunno, it could be a parallel story, and your character could 'bump into' Hawke at some point.  Having a set PC (male/female would have to be chosen prior to beginning) for DA2 would make this fairly easy.  I also don't think The Calling necessarily has to take place when your PC is old and grey.  Your exposure to the archedemon could have expedited the process, for instance.  Nothing says an early Calling can't happen, for whatever creative reason.  In fact, didn't the 2nd novel have something like that?  The more you're exposed to the tainted Deep Roads, etc, the faster the taint takes over?

Modifié par jjkrogs, 15 juillet 2010 - 06:55 .


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I wish I could find a source to back this up, but I'm positive that I've read that this was never meant to refer to DA2's release date, and that it's another "treat" for DA players. I'll do some snooping around but rest assured, this isn't simply a matter of pushing back a release date.



I would love to believe it's an expansion, but I think the timing would be a little strange. To only stagger them a month, I mean. Given the closeness of the release dates, the anime is a safe bet. Still, there's nothing surprising about that, as it was announced months ago. The source I read seemed to imply that this was something new.




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I don't think they would pump every DA:O fan up with that little note, and then tell us it is an anime that seems really really cruel you just don't build up 18months of anticipation like that then reveal it is an anime.



I think it was probably meant to be the original release date for DA:2. I just don't see another expansion between now and DA:2 maybe an expansion onto DA:2 that will show what our Wardens were doing during DA:2. The more they talk about DA:2 the more I feel this it for our Warden save maybe a few DLC that may not even involve him.



I would so love to be wrong though and it being an expansion about final closure on the Warden.

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Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

I don't think they would pump every DA:O fan up with that little note


Only the Americans, actually.
Therefore, it was speculated that this might be another epic community event !!!11one :D

Modifié par _Loc_N_lol_, 15 juillet 2010 - 07:11 .


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the next dlc Stens song

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"I don't think they would pump every DA:O fan up with that little note, and then tell us it is an anime that seems really really cruel you just don't build up 18months of anticipation like that then reveal it is an anime."



Agreed. Releasing an anime on that date would be as bad as their "epic announcement" of the auction a few months ago.


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Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

I don't think they would pump every DA:O fan up with that little note, and then tell us it is an anime that seems really really cruel you just don't build up 18months of anticipation like that then reveal it is an anime.


Why not? That anime I'm sure cost them quite a bit of cash and they're going to need to push it hard along side the game to to turn a solid net. Makes plenty of business sense for them to build it up big.

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You know, as unlikely as DA2 might make it, I still can't help but shake the feeling that there is another expansion planned for DAO. It's one of those undefinable hunches from the gut that people sometimes get.

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Is the whole challenge (or problem) here that most of us (maybe me to) don't like games or movies being unfinished e.g to have open endings. As I understand it, DA: Origins has an open ending, there's no fixed ending, and you have to use your own imagination when you fantasize or think about what happened to Morrigan and the other characters in the game, including the Warden (your character).

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jjkrogs wrote...

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Well they said we are getting another DLC at least. Maybe it is an expansion I would love it, but I see EA doing something like this import you're choices from DA:O into DA:OExpansion then you can import you're Warden's choices from DA:OExpansion into DA:2 they get more money that way lol. I'm curious on how an Expansion would work though since we have Awakening would we have to import our Awakening version of the Warden or could be skip it? A level 35ish Warden storming through 10 more levels worth of content would be fun god mode though and near impossible to balance combat wise, but we could get our closure and final chapter of our Warden if they choose that this is the end of him in the Dragon Age universe.


It would be quite easy, actually, since Awakening had very little to do with the events of DA:O.  If they go the popular "God baby" route, where you're now several years older (10, not coincidentally, to fit the tie-in to DA2) they could cap your starting level and blame it on age and/or taint effect.  Besides, does leveling really matter in DA, with scaling and such?  I rarely noticed much difference, but that's a gripe for another thread...



I really don't understand why people get all bent out of shape over having a warden at level 36 and higher.  The solution to combat this is so simple.  All that needs to be done is make the bosses just as tough and rough as the Warden.  Really not that difficult. 

I don't see where Bioware/EA would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did release an Expansion Pack and DA2 at the same time.  DC and Leliana's Song came on the heels of each other , two-three months apart, if I'm not mistaken.  Why would this be a problem?

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Maybe because an expansion requires significant more work then a "simple" DLC pack?

beside ... by now I'm not even sure I want to hear more about my warden. I think I rather prefer it to be open ended more for me to speculate and make up myself. Beside one day my warden will go into the deep roads :crying:.
Also I "god baby" doesn't exist in my universe ... poor Loghain ...:(.

Modifié par FDrage, 15 juillet 2010 - 09:21 .