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[KendallX23]

Revya wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

Revya wrote...

Wait so...Where is year 0 are the people of Thedas as dumb as the real world when it comes to math?

there is no year 0....that year is a lie...

...LIAR:devil:

    hey,,,,people didn't belive the cake was a lie either...

      anyway....get back to topic...i am going to bed....have fun here

[Helena Tylena]

Revya wrote...

Wait so...Where is year 0 are the people of Thedas as dumb as the real world when it comes to math?

Calendars have little to do with math and much with counting. Our calendar system (that is to say, the Western calendar system) begins with the (alledged) birth of Christ. This means that the year Christ was born is year 1, and the year before that is the year -1.

Having a year 0 would only make sense if the birth of Christ lasted a full year, which would be most... uncomfortable for poor Mary.



Anyway, what I'm curious to know is what are the Ashes of Andraste? There is an actual urn of dust that heals illnesses (or at the very least happens to heal whatever Eamon was poisoned with). This is fact, confirmed by the first game.
Does this, however, confirm that Andraste really was the Maker's prophet, as the Chantry would have us believe, or did there used to be an ash-like dust that served as a panacea, the secrets of which were lost over the centuries, and the last supplies of which where dressed up as the Sacred Ashes?

My guess is that Bioware will leave the existence of the Maker in question forever, and we can fill in the blanks ourselves.
And we wubs Bioware for it. ^^

[Johnny Shepard]

But if an age ends with 99 and starts with 1 then the age would only have 99 years. Where is the missing year?

[Lord_Saulot]

Helena Tylena wrote...

Anyway, what I'm curious to know is what are the Ashes of Andraste? There is an actual urn of dust that heals illnesses (or at the very least happens to heal whatever Eamon was poisoned with). This is fact, confirmed by the first game.
Does this, however, confirm that Andraste really was the Maker's prophet, as the Chantry would have us believe, or did there used to be an ash-like dust that served as a panacea, the secrets of which were lost over the centuries, and the last supplies of which where dressed up as the Sacred Ashes?

My guess is that Bioware will leave the existence of the Maker in question forever, and we can fill in the blanks ourselves.
And we wubs Bioware for it. ^^

Good question.  i think they will also leave it ambiguous too.  In any case, I loved the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest.  That is probably one of my favorite parts of the game.  Questing grail-knights versus Lovecraftian cultists.  classic.

[Lord_Saulot]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

But if an age ends with 99 and starts with 1 then the age would only have 99 years. Where is the missing year?

Do we know how the system works?  It should be either 0-99 or 1-100, right?

[Revya]

Helena Tylena wrote...

Revya wrote...

Wait so...Where is year 0 are the people of Thedas as dumb as the real world when it comes to math?

Calendars have little to do with math and much with counting. Our calendar system (that is to say, the Western calendar system) begins with the (alledged) birth of Christ. This means that the year Christ was born is year 1, and the year before that is the year -1.

Having a year 0 would only make sense if the birth of Christ lasted a full year, which would be most... uncomfortable for poor Mary.



Anyway, what I'm curious to know is what are the Ashes of Andraste? There is an actual urn of dust that heals illnesses (or at the very least happens to heal whatever Eamon was poisoned with). This is fact, confirmed by the first game.
Does this, however, confirm that Andraste really was the Maker's prophet, as the Chantry would have us believe, or did there used to be an ash-like dust that served as a panacea, the secrets of which were lost over the centuries, and the last supplies of which where dressed up as the Sacred Ashes?

My guess is that Bioware will leave the existence of the Maker in question forever, and we can fill in the blanks ourselves.
And we wubs Bioware for it. ^^

The calender was made years after JC's death, in other the date was chosen completly at random and recen studies show that it is probable that he was in his 30 when they decided that hole birthday thing.

It is also important that Dark Ages Europe where a bunch of idiots so that also justefies the hole 0 missing thing.

Any way...We know The Warden is now in the History books...still for all the time we put in could he not have more than a few lines please:D

[Lord_Saulot]

A timeline isn't a mathematical system. Having or not having a zero is not important and doesn't make them idiots, because a zero serves no special purpose in a timeline.

[Grommash94]

KproTM wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Since Hawke's sister is appearently a mage, I'd love to be able to bust a few templar skulls if they even look at her wrong...

Hawke has a sister? Where is the source that confirms this?

I believe it was stated in a german magazine that he would have a mage sister named Bethany.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

KproTM wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Since Hawke's sister is appearently a mage, I'd love to be able to bust a few templar skulls if they even look at her wrong...

Hawke has a sister? Where is the source that confirms this?

German Game Informer Gamestar.

Modifié par DrunkDeadman, 14 juillet 2010 - 10:57 .

[Lord_Saulot]

So Bethany Hawke then, assuming she shares the same surname as her brother.

[C9316]

Hmph... seems this city of chains is going to be more interesting than I had previously thought now i'm certainly going to be playing as a mage in this heavily templar influenced land but i wonder how they'll react to a champion of kirkwall who also is a mage? I hope I can relax some of the templar control there because when I imagine heavily controlling mages I imagine templars killing mages just for giving them the stink eye.

[Johnny Shepard]

Lord_Saulot wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

But if an age ends with 99 and starts with 1 then the age would only have 99 years. Where is the missing year?

Do we know how the system works?  It should be either 0-99 or 1-100, right?

But the first age started with 1 and The Stolen Throne book ended the year 99 saying that it was the last year of the age.

[Helena Tylena]

Revya wrote...

Helena Tylena wrote...

Revya wrote...

Wait so...Where is year 0 are the people of Thedas as dumb as the real world when it comes to math?

Calendars have little to do with math and much with counting. Our calendar system (that is to say, the Western calendar system) begins with the (alledged) birth of Christ. This means that the year Christ was born is year 1, and the year before that is the year -1.

Having a year 0 would only make sense if the birth of Christ lasted a full year, which would be most... uncomfortable for poor Mary.



Anyway, what I'm curious to know is what are the Ashes of Andraste? There is an actual urn of dust that heals illnesses (or at the very least happens to heal whatever Eamon was poisoned with). This is fact, confirmed by the first game.
Does this, however, confirm that Andraste really was the Maker's prophet, as the Chantry would have us believe, or did there used to be an ash-like dust that served as a panacea, the secrets of which were lost over the centuries, and the last supplies of which where dressed up as the Sacred Ashes?

My guess is that Bioware will leave the existence of the Maker in question forever, and we can fill in the blanks ourselves.
And we wubs Bioware for it. ^^

The calender was made years after JC's death, in other the date was chosen completly at random and recen studies show that it is probable that he was in his 30 when they decided that hole birthday thing.

It is also important that Dark Ages Europe where a bunch of idiots so that also justefies the hole 0 missing thing.

Any way...We know The Warden is now in the History books...still for all the time we put in could he not have more than a few lines please:D

Hence why I said alledged birth. It still is based on a hypothetical event. A single point in time. There is 'before' that point and there is 'after' that point. There isn't 'during' that point, as the point in time wouldn't last long enough to be significant in length.
The fact that the point in time was randomly picked is moot. It was still a point.

But if an age ends with 99 and starts with 1 then the age would only have 99 years. Where is the missing year?

Who says there's a missing year? For all we know a Thedassian century only lasts 99 years. Would make more sense, really, as adding a third digit means the psychological need to keep counting.

[Lord_Saulot]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Lord_Saulot wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

But if an age ends with 99 and starts with 1 then the age would only have 99 years. Where is the missing year?

Do we know how the system works?  It should be either 0-99 or 1-100, right?

But the first age started with 1 and The Stolen Throne book ended the year 99 saying that it was the last year of the age.

Oh, that's weird.  I thought they said that an Age was 100 years, so I don't know what that is.

[Grommash94]

Great fantasy always has an event or events that are relatable to something that happened in real life.

[Vaeliorin]

Ulicus wrote...
I like Kirkwall as "The City of Chains". It has an awesome "City of Coin / Amn" and "City of Doors / Sigil" Dungeons and Dragons kind of a ring to it.

There actually is a City of Chains in D&D mythology.  It exists on Minauros, the third layer of the Nine Hells.

Anyway, interesting timeline.  Maybe we'll get to learn more about the Qun/Qunari from them having had such an influence on Kirkwall.  I also want a Tal Vashoth party member (just to get the other side of the story.)

[Helena Tylena]

Lord_Saulot wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Lord_Saulot wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

But if an age ends with 99 and starts with 1 then the age would only have 99 years. Where is the missing year?

Do we know how the system works?  It should be either 0-99 or 1-100, right?

But the first age started with 1 and The Stolen Throne book ended the year 99 saying that it was the last year of the age.

Oh, that's weird.  I thought they said that an Age was 100 years, so I don't know what that is.

100 years could easily be a round-up. It's much easier to say 'hundred' when the exact number is ninety-nine. Less of a mouthful, too.
When I see something priced for 29.99 euros, for instance, my mind automatically goes 'that thing costs 30 euros'. It's human nature to round up.

Who knows, may hap she was indeed a powerful mage. My "theory" is that
she was actually a blood mage, but instead of using her power to do
evil, she used it as a means to an end (remember Broken Circle). Mages
of Tevinter had to have found a way to suppress her powers in order to
actually capture and hold her, and this may have had a side-effect on
her body while she was burning at the stake. Thus her ashes became the
panacea you describe.

There's good and evil in Dragon Age?

There's also the possibility that Andraste was an abomination. I have no idea what being possessed by a demon does to your mortal remains, but the endproduct can't be... well... normal.
A demon of pride would, I believe, be powerful enough to use blood magic on a large enough scale to 'make people drop to their knees' when you walk by.

[kraidy1117]

Very intresting. This is a very rich history.

[KethWolfheart]

Great post - loved reading the history. Lots of possible foreshadowing of Hawke and Kirkwall.

[Grommash94]

Don't think Andraste was an abomination....unless it was the kind where she was possessed by an extremely powerful 'good' spirit. She was most likely a mage though.