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[loghain no gain]

The initial level of a companion is not fixed. It's determined by the main character's level upon their joining.
So I tried to recruit companions at their lowest level possible without cheating, and this is what I found:


Alistair (at Level 3)

strength 18
dexterity 16
willpower 15
magic 12 + 2(templar)
cunning 11
constitution 13
mental resistance 5 + 3(templar)
physical resistance 9
no elemental resistance
health 152
stamina 135
fatigue -10.0% (powerful)
armor 0
defense 51
attack 69

Skills
Combat Training - Improved Combat Training - Expert Combat Training

Talents
Warrior: Powerful
Weapon and Shield: Shield Bash, Shield Pummel, Shield Block, Shield Cover



Morrigan (at Level 5)

strength 14
dexterity 15
willpower 19
magic 21
cunning 12
constitution 10 + 2 (shapeshifter)
mental resistance 11
physical resistance 6
no elemental resistance
health 111
mana 184
fatigue 0.0%
armor 1 (shapeshifter)
defense 45
attack 11

Skills
Herbalism - Improved Herbalism
Combat Training

Talents
Primal: Winter's Grasp
Spirit: Mind Blast
Entropy: Vulnerability Hex, Disorient, Horror, Drain Life
Shapeshifter: Spider Shape



Leliana (at Level 5)

strength 17
dexterity 20
willpower 16 + 2 (bard)
magic 13
cunning 15 + 1 (bard)
constitution 10
mental resistance 9
physical resistance 9
no elemental resistance
health 110
stamina 96
fatigue 0.0%

armor 0
defense 60
attack 64

Skills
Stealing - Improved Stealing
Poison-Making
Combat Training

Talents
Rogue: Dirty Fighting, Deft Hands, Improved Tools
Archery: Pinning Shot, Crippling Shot, Rapid Shot
Bard: Song of Valor



Sten (at Level 5)

strength 24
dexterity 15
willpower 15
magic 10
cunning 10
constitution 13
mental resistance 3
physical resistance 11
no elemental resistance
health 164
stamina 145
fatigue -10.0% (powerful)
armor 0
defense 50
attack 72

Skills
Combat Training - Improved Combat Training - Expert Combat Training

Talents
Warrior: Powerful, Threaten
Two-Handed: Pommel Strike, Indomitable, Sunder Arms, Mighty Blow, Powerful Swings



Wynne (at Level 5)

strength 14
dexterity 14
willpower 19
magic 20 + 2 (spirit healer)
cunning 14
constitution 10
mental resistance 13
physical resistance 4
no elemental resistance
health 101
mana 184
fatigue 0.0%
armor 0
defense 44
attack 12

Skills
Herbalism
Combat Tactics - Improved Combat Tactics

Talents
Mage: Arcane Bolt
Primal: Rock Armor
Creation: Heal, Rejuvenate, Heroic Offense, Heroic Aura
Spirit Healer: Group Heal


I'm guessing Shale and Oghren could be recruited at level 5, as well, if you don't go for Wynne.


To accomplish this, you may do the following

1. Never unlock any chests, which would grant 10-20 xp
2. Never pick up any books, which would grant 50 xp
3. Don't equip the memory band ring.
4. Don't do any side quests with xp rewards
5. Finish essential quests in a way that give less xp

6. When an unavoidable battle begins, rush towards a safe spot. (Archers, Mages usually don't chase you when you're out of their sight. Hence, you get less enemies to kill)

7. Also, before killing any monsters in a battle, strip your main character of his armor and let him die first. (a dead party member get less xp from battles)

8. In Ostagar, don't talk to Rory and Daveth before the quest begins. Talking to them gives you 100ish xp each

9. In Korcari Wilds, lure wolves to hurlocks, as many of them will start to fight each other, leaving only 2 ~ 3 monsters (or none) still chasing you. (I picked up three vials without killing anything, and only had to kill about 5 monsters near the Archive to finish the entire quest)

10. In the Tower of Ishal, rush towards to the door to the next stage, and about 1-8 monsters won't engage in battle. In the second floor, use ballistae to kill all enemies (For that, you get no xp at all)  In the third floor, release the dogs to distract enemies, and then rush to the exit.

11. In Lothering, just pay the toll. 

Modifié par loghain no gain, 15 juillet 2010 - 01:28 .

[soteria]

What was the purpose of undressing them and taking a picture, exactly? Taking that extra step seems... odd.

[loghain no gain]

Oh my bad, if that upsets you. I just wanted to show what their stats look like when they don't wear any armors/weapons/etc to boost their stats. (the green colored fonts come from their specialization.) I guess I should put something to cover their bodies, then. Again, I'm sorry.

[loghain no gain]

There. I just typed their stats without any item stat boosts.
The purpose of recruiting companions at their lowest levels was to prevent them from wasting their attributes / skills / talents points, because otherwise they tend to invest them in the wrong places.
However, now that I think about it, sacrifice seems huge for just a couple of attributes / skills / talents points to be spared.

Modifié par loghain no gain, 15 juillet 2010 - 01:29 .

[soteria]

I wasn't actually upset about seeing them naked, I just thought it was strange without knowing the reason behind it.

[ncknck]

gg soteria. You made him take out all the funny out of the thread. Shame on you. :> As for the topic, with a console one can change everything, so there is no need to actually avoid exp. One can play until NPC taken, then relevel him with respect to his starting skills, which you just listed, thanks.

pics were better tbh, less obscured view and less prone to error.

Modifié par ncknck, 15 juillet 2010 - 06:53 .