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yukidama wrote...

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I hope not! I really, really hope not! I swear, I'll write letters to newpapers, politicians and whomever else I can think of, attempting to create a ban, if something like that should happen! Sick idea!

I fail to understand that any of you even find the idea interesting!!!!! :sick:

Were you this angry over the threesomes, foursomes, gays and lesbians in DAO?


How is that the same thing at all?


We kill thousands of people in the game and now we find some "weird" sex too much? Really?

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Warheadz wrote...

Anyways, call me stupid if you will, but whats so horrible in a group of pixels doing another group of pixels, even if the pixels are siblings? They are just games.

Edit: But no, incest is not my cup of tea.

Also this, it's just a game, and if you think this is bad, you should see some of the games they make in Japan, they have games about rape and fathers doin their daughters, and all sorts of disgusting things they put into their games, so if this is in, it's not nearly as bad as half of that sick sh*t they have over there.

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GodWood wrote...

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I hope not! I really, really hope not! I swear, I'll write letters to newpapers, politicians and whomever else I can think of, attempting to create a ban, if something like that should happen! Sick idea!

I fail to understand that any of you even find the idea interesting!!!!! :sick:

Have you never read a book set in a dark fantasy setting?
Most are chock full of it.
Besides you do realise there is a high possibility Morrigan and Alistair are half brother and sister right?


Wait what? Where the hell did you hear that from?

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'tis most disturbing

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langelog wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

Anyways, call me stupid if you will, but whats so horrible in a group of pixels doing another group of pixels, even if the pixels are siblings? They are just games.

Edit: But no, incest is not my cup of tea.

Also this, it's just a game, and if you think this is bad, you should see some of the games they make in Japan, they have games about rape and fathers doin their daughters, and all sorts of disgusting things they put into their games, so if this is in, it's not nearly as bad as half of that sick sh*t they have over there.


You know this first hand, do you? :huh:

Modifié par epoch_, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:22 .


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DeepGray wrote...

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I hope not! I really, really hope not! I swear, I'll write letters to newpapers, politicians and whomever else I can think of, attempting to create a ban, if something like that should happen! Sick idea!

I fail to understand that any of you even find the idea interesting!!!!! :sick:

Were you this angry over the threesomes, foursomes, gays and lesbians in DAO?


You seriously put those in the same category as having sex with a sibling?

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Having Betty play your younger sister will definitely attract some of the Japanese crowds, something about forbidden love and all that jazz.

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Thats wrong on so many levels. Did you do that with your sister?


This has nothing to do with what I did, or would do or not do.  The idea is about adding depth of roleplay and pushing boundaries in a entertainment medium.  There have been fantasy authors - George R.R. Martin to name the most recently recognizable - whom have had incestuous characters in their novels but whom, I seriously doubt, ever engaged in incest themselves.  Fiction, it's what's for dinner.  

If not said outright, it would be nice if there were enough ambiguous dialog to let an rper infer that it might be going on ... and maybe have some npcs question the possibility ... to add another potential level to your character.

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saphirekosmos wrote...

GodWood wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

I hope not! I really, really hope not! I swear, I'll write letters to newpapers, politicians and whomever else I can think of, attempting to create a ban, if something like that should happen! Sick idea!

I fail to understand that any of you even find the idea interesting!!!!! :sick:

Have you never read a book set in a dark fantasy setting?
Most are chock full of it.
Besides you do realise there is a high possibility Morrigan and Alistair are half brother and sister right?


Wait what? Where the hell did you hear that from?

The Calling hints that 30 years prior to Origins Maric had a child with Flemeth.

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TMZuk wrote...

DeepGray wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

I hope not! I really, really hope not! I swear, I'll write letters to newpapers, politicians and whomever else I can think of, attempting to create a ban, if something like that should happen! Sick idea!

I fail to understand that any of you even find the idea interesting!!!!! :sick:

Were you this angry over the threesomes, foursomes, gays and lesbians in DAO?


What an utterly innane question!!!! No I wasn't. Not that I find VG sex interesting enough to really pursue it either. But, groupsex or homosexuality is neither illegal, nor does it lead to traumatized children. Well, maybe it's illegal in some backwards countries, I don't know, but not in any civilized nation.

Incest is NOT something to trivialize, or use in entertainment. Neither is rape, slavery, torture or any such thing. VG's already tethers on the edge of going to far, incest would seriously cross the line.

-spoiler alert-

In DA:O, I had some issues with the way the Fort Drakon was first depicted as a truly terrifying place, where all manners of torture and abuse took place, and then the escape of the warden is turned into a Monty Python scetch. I despise torture, as most sentient people do, and therefore it irritated me that it was trivialized.

-end spoiler-

Comparing incest with homosexuality or groupsex, would indicate that someone have their priorities wrong!


This somehow feels like "If you play GTA, you will become a mindless killer!"-nonsense.
If someone really is capable of incest, do you think a silly videogame will trigger it? We should trust that all of us have brains.
"Incest is NOT something to trivialize, or use in entertainment.". Killing is present in entertainment usually.
I agree that incest is wrong, but hey, so is killing. These are videogames.

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epoch_ wrote...

langelog wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

Anyways, call me stupid if you will, but whats so horrible in a group of pixels doing another group of pixels, even if the pixels are siblings? They are just games.

Edit: But no, incest is not my cup of tea.

Also this, it's just a game, and if you think this is bad, you should see some of the games they make in Japan, they have games about rape and fathers doin their daughters, and all sorts of disgusting things they put into their games, so if this is in, it's not nearly as bad as half of that sick sh*t they have over there.


You know this first hand, do you? :huh:

No, not first hand, but I've had friends tell me to search some of the weird crap on the internet, and it's pretty bad. So much so that I can hardly believe crap like that exists.

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Sadly I see this thread getting locked down soon. Pity. Incest *could* really add some melodrama into DA2.



...though it is pretty obvious that it won't happen. Bethany is destined to die early on in the story.

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as long as there is no actual sex scene of this particular relationship...so be it. It IS a ROLE PLAYING game after all.

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TMZuk wrote...

Incest is NOT something to trivialize, or use in entertainment. Neither is rape, slavery, torture or any such thing. 


You know those were all in DAO, right? I'm not defending the incest idea (I think it's disgusting and would avoid it forever), but as Warheadz just said, it's just a video game. And Bethany's probably this game's Sacrificial Lamb, so no need to worry. That said, it probably won't happen and I'm happy about that.

Modifié par YokoFactor, 14 juillet 2010 - 09:05 .


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epoch_ wrote...

langelog wrote...
Also this, it's just a game, and if you think this is bad, you should see some of the games they make in Japan, they have games about rape and fathers doin their daughters, and all sorts of disgusting things they put into their games, so if this is in, it's not nearly as bad as half of that sick sh*t they have over there.


You know this first hand, do you? :huh:


I know it first hand. Is there a problem with it?

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Siradix wrote...

Having Betty play your younger sister will definitely attract some of the Japanese crowds, something about forbidden love and all that jazz.

This was my point, the Japanese can be straight up sick!

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Let's not forget that Hawke can also be female.



So, uh, yeah, lesbian incest.



As hilarious as that would be, it would determine female Iconic!Hawke's name be 'Fox'.

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Incest: fun for the whole family.

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TMZuk wrote...
Incest is NOT something to trivialize, or use in entertainment. Neither is rape, slavery, torture or any such thing. VG's already tethers on the edge of going to far, incest would seriously cross the line.

These are all themes prominent in any good dark fantasy literacture.

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Oedipus is considered a classical. Maybe Dragon Age 2 will be looked the same in a few houndred years. :D

There are many literature out there way too outrageous for today's standard, read some ancient greek stuff. I've had to read The Symposium, and it was disturbing. Yet it considered a classical.

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elearon1 wrote...

BigOzzie wrote...

Thats wrong on so many levels. Did you do that with your sister?


This has nothing to do with what I did, or would do or not do.  The idea is about adding depth of roleplay and pushing boundaries in a entertainment medium.  There have been fantasy authors - George R.R. Martin to name the most recently recognizable - whom have had incestuous characters in their novels but whom, I seriously doubt, ever engaged in incest themselves.  Fiction, it's what's for dinner.  

If not said outright, it would be nice if there were enough ambiguous dialog to let an rper infer that it might be going on ... and maybe have some npcs question the possibility ... to add another potential level to your character.


I've read Martin, thankyou very much, and it is not as if he depicts incest as an laudable or commendable act, rather it is described as the actions of a seriously twisted, sick and decadent pair of siblings. And for me, there's a huge difference between reading about an act from a third person perspective, and then having it trivialized in a VG, where you'd have to instigate it from a first person perspective, to entertain kids with nothing better to do than fantasizing about every woman they se in the game.

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Khayness wrote...
Oedipus is considered a classical. Maybe Dragon Age 2 will be looked the same in a few houndred years. :D
There are many literature out there way too outrageous for today's standard, read some ancient greek stuff. I've had to read The Symposium, and it was disturbing. Yet it considered a classical.

I hear the Bibles pretty popular too and thats chock full of incest, rape, torture and slavery.

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I highly doubt they would implement that. Bioware already nerfed down their love scenes in ME2 and Origins compared to the "sizzling" scenes in ME1. I personally thought the scenes were very mild in ME1 and didn't warrant all the bad attention, but some people will go to great lengths to keep that sort of thing under lock and key.



Could you imagine the crapstorm that would start on Fox news if they implemented this? I don't think it's worth the risk to be honest.