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Who else is going to kill Flemeth again if given the opportunity?


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#76
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Phazor58 wrote...

Well, here's how I saw it in Origins:

Morrigan was told by Flemeth to do the ritual, so she originally joined the party for that purpose.  Then, if you chose to get closer to Morrigan, she would start to feel a little bit worse for having to betray you in the end.  Then, because she's interested in learning more about her mother, Morrigan requests that you get Flemeth's Grimmoire to learn more information.  From what she learns in the first grimmoire (that Flemeth wants to "absorb" her), she decides that Flemeth needs to be stopped, at least temporarily.  Then when she gets Flemeth's real grimmoire, she learns about the god child.  After you "killed" Flemeth, I think she probably decided she didn't need to perform the ritual anymore.  But once she learned about the power of the god child, she decided she needed to go through with the ritual.

Now here I see two reasons why she would still perform the ritual.  One: she wants to gain power, or Two: she doesn't want anyone else to get control of the power.  To me, the second one seems more likely.

How does Flemeth fit into all this?  Well whether or not she was alive or "dead," she would still come back anyways since she's "immortal."  So losing the grimmoire was not an issue because either way Morrigan would perform the ritual and Flemeth would still be around to claim the child's power.  So basically, I'm assuming she's still evil, though I suppose she could also be choosing to make sure no one else gets the power of the god child.

So now having thought all that through...I guess we could have anywhere from 0 to 2 evil witches running around.  I'm under the impression that it's 1 witch, and that the witch is Flemeth.  I suppose I'll have to learn a little bit more info.  We'll see how it goes, lol.

And perhaps who's good and who's evil depends on what your choices were in DA:O.  Maybe if you chose to "kill" Flemeth, she's evil.  But if you chose to "betray" Morrigan, then Morrigan is evil.  And then there's also the dark ritual choice itself.  Very complicated :blink:


Seriously the whole Flemeth/Morrigan thing.It's either a plot hole or Bioware have something for us..The whole god baby /Morrigan/Killing Flemeth thing was all planned from the beginning.That Flemeth was just toying with the Warden since the beginning.That the Warden was just a puppet for a much bigger scheme than the blight.

That the Warden ain't that important..
Here come Hawke.

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If it only hurts Morrigan, I will let her live, give her a warm coat and cook her a tea.

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I think that Morrigan intends to absord the child in order to get its power so that she will be powerful enough to destroy Flemeth once and for all.

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Well my wardens only ever "killed" Flemeth to protect Morrigan (well... and because I'll do anything Aeryn Sun... I mean Claudia Black, tells me to do). So unless she threatens someone my Hawke cares about he'll have no reason to "kill" her.


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I'll kill her if she's not useful. I'm bloodthirsty for exp, and she's pretty much a walking lvl up. If she's useful, then I'll let her live. That is, unless Morrigan asks me to kill her.



She may have dumped me pretty badly, and gave me a sad ending, but I still love the Sexy bit - err... Witch!

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Jimmy Fury wrote...

Well my wardens only ever "killed" Flemeth to protect Morrigan...


Same here...my Warden had nothing personal against her.  Things might be different with Hawke--we'll have to see.

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 I can't see myself killing Flemeth, especially considering the fact that she may become a party companion during the game (Not sure about that one, but the Grey Wardens article says it pretty clearly). Anyway, I might put a stop to her if she tries to hurt my Warden's baby, but otherwise I'm content to let her go about her business. I mean, she might have had bigger plans, but Flemeth did save the life of my warden, and so, by extension, Fereldan from the Blight.

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I am surprised Flemeth did not pull remember who saved your life.

I often forgot and killed her.

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Keithhy wrote...

 I can't see myself killing Flemeth, especially considering the fact that she may become a party companion during the game (Not sure about that one, but the Grey Wardens article says it pretty clearly). Anyway, I might put a stop to her if she tries to hurt my Warden's baby, but otherwise I'm content to let her go about her business. I mean, she might have had bigger plans, but Flemeth did save the life of my warden, and so, by extension, Fereldan from the Blight.


That's the way I felt until my PC found that robe that Flemeth had all ready for Morrigan. If my warden were to meet Flemeth again, she's probably kill her, without some big new piece of information. Hawke, though, that's a different story. It's impossible to say without knowing what he knows about Flemeth.

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Gladly, unless the next delicious guy doesn't approve...

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You know, I always thought it would be a distinctly bad idea to take those robes out of Flemeth's hut and then present them to Morrigan. I mean, yeah, they're apparently more powerful, but what if it's a trap? For that matter, what if the Grimoire is also a trap? That is to say, what if one or both of those things were the actual means by which Flemeth intended to possess Morrigan in the first place (i.e. they're cursed items), and the ritual nonsense Morrigan read about was just an elaborate ruse?

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BeardWarden got Morrigan, BeardHawke can have Flemmeth. That way we can have a GodBaby vs GodBaby fight. (let's face it, the games are all just about boning the hawt witch in yer party!)

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Quinnzel wrote...

BeardWarden got Morrigan, BeardHawke can have Flemmeth. That way we can have a GodBaby vs GodBaby fight. (let's face it, the games are all just about boning the hawt witch in yer party!)


I just hope she don't pull a Samara on poor Hawke:unsure:

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Did we ever actually get any clarification on: "This Blight is a greater threat than they realise"?

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Naw. I'm going to let her live like I did in the first game. What's a little lie between bestest friends?

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You never killed her in DA:O, even Morrigen said after you slayed her, it was on the lines of something like it may not of killed her, but slowed her down.

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I will wait and see what Flemeth is like in this game before I decide to kill her.......also depends on how useful of a party member she is and what the consequences/rationale for killing her will be. For this game I'm going to try to pretend I don't know what happened in DAO. On a side note, does anyone ever wonder if Flemeth is somehow related to the old gods herself? It would seem to fit with the whole turning into a dragon and wanting to save the old god archdemon in dao.

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I don't trust Morrigan at all on what really was in that grimoire but I killed Flemeth anyway because I trust her even less, after all, she's the one who taught Morrigan.

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I would Kill her without a doubt...She saved you only to use you, have you people all ready forgot??

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No way I was killing anyone first time round just because some woman was nagging me to do it. Only porked her daughter at the end to stop her complaining!



I will nuke Geth for Miss Black though lol.

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Darren1861 wrote...

I would Kill her without a doubt...She saved you only to use you, have you people all ready forgot??



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My Warden might kill her again.

But I don't think Hawke will. She won't have known Morrigan and she won't have that history with Flemmeth in the first place, so there is no inherent reason to not trust the woman other than that she's a bit of a creeper.

Modifié par pixieface, 19 juillet 2010 - 05:06 .


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Darren1861

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pixieface wrote...

My Warden might kill her again.

But I don't think Hawke will. She won't have known Morrigan and she won't have that history with Flemmeth in the first place, so there is no inherent reason to not trust the woman other than that she's a bit of a creeper.






 I have no clue what you are talking about?? That had nogthing to do with Dragon Age..But, Whatever....Posted Image

Modifié par Darren1861, 19 juillet 2010 - 06:10 .


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There's obviously a lot more to Flemeth than we know. If the opportunity to kill her again arises, I think we'll be a little more informed than we are now. I won't decide to kill her (again) until the moment I'm given the chance. She could be a lot more honest or a lot more evil than we know. Killing her in DA:O was more of a safety thing. I kinda figured she wouldn't be gone for good, but, like someone else has already mentioned, I didn't want not killing her to come back and bite me in the ass. Now, it seems killing her might've been the mistake since she's back and looking new and improved.