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[Taleroth]

Darren1861 wrote...

I would Kill her without a doubt...She saved you only to use you, have you people all ready forgot??

So what?  What, does it hurt your feelings that it wasn't altruism?  Need a better reason to kill someone than that.  Thankfully a better reason exists.  But still "she used me" is just a silly motivation.

[ShadyKat]

There has been no hint that Flemeth is evil. Most people assume she is, but she did save the Warden, who then saves everyone from the Blight. She also will save Hawke and his family. No one knows her true motives, so until then, Flemeth is okay in my book.





Plus killing her seems like a waste of time, since she will just come back.

[Narosian]

 Because I like killing dragons.  Chicks that can turn into dragons even more so.

[Potato Cat]

The only reason I would ever "kill" Kate Mulgrew is if I knew she wouldn't actually die. From the moment I met Flemeth, I knew she had a HUGE role in DA.



I doubt we'll see Flemeth much after Lothering except maybe during the "big plot twist" with Merrill and her clan. Maybe at the end of the game. Maybe in a dream. Maybe on Hawke's deathbed. MAYBE SHE KILLS HAWKE. Oh please let it be so. I'd let Kate Mulgrew kill be anyday.

[Potato Cat]

ShadyKat wrote...

There has been no hint that Flemeth is evil. Most people assume she is, but she did save the Warden, who then saves everyone from the Blight. She also will save Hawke and his family. No one knows her true motives, so until then, Flemeth is okay in my book.


Plus killing her seems like a waste of time, since she will just come back.

What makes you doubt she isn't evil? And all those things you say can easily be explained. Flemeth wants the OGB and the only way to get that would be through the Warden and Alistair. She clearly knows Hawke will be of use to her and possibly knows he/she could bring about the end of the Chantry's power, (for example). And if I went out and killed hundreds of people, but no one knew my true motives, would I be OK in your books too?

[Incantrix]

Nah not this time. Only reason my warden killed her (if thats even the right word) was because she was best friends with morrigan.

[JediHealerCosmin]

Nah, not unless she betrays Hawke. Other than that, I wont. Goes against my RP, seeing as Hawke has no idea what Morrigan told the Warden before going through the mirror.

[Rock Mu]

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

 I'm not all that sure that everything is as cut and dried as it might seem. And I'm not sure Morrigan really knew what was going on, either.

just what i was thinking 

but killed Flemeth anyways since guessed that if you didn't kill Flemeth it would come back and bite you in the ass at some point 
and i just can't lie to Morrigan .:wub:

but it comes back to bite you anyways:P
since Flemeth will be in DA2 
well....... because of that i expect that Morrigan will also make an appearance at some point during DA2

but i guess i would kill Femeth again since it seams to be the safest option 
i guess she wouldn't be happy being killed the first time
maybe she wants revenge on the warden and Morrigan 



 

For all we know Flemmeth planned it that way though. Maybe the Warden "killing" her was what she wanted or needed to happen, in order to further whatever her ultimate objective is.

[kane442]

Altima Darkspells wrote...

I'm hoping we can romance her.

Sadly, she probably won't have the same wonderfully authorative voice actor she had in DAO. New body and all.

...its the same body....they just did a lil ret-con ...its been confirmed you meet her before her "death"

[Zkyire]

RunCDFirst wrote...

I'm still trying to get over the fact people killed Kate Mulgrew the first time around.

I just can't forgive her for refusing to have Qs baby.

[ShadyKat]

Elfman wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

There has been no hint that Flemeth is evil. Most people assume she is, but she did save the Warden, who then saves everyone from the Blight. She also will save Hawke and his family. No one knows her true motives, so until then, Flemeth is okay in my book.


Plus killing her seems like a waste of time, since she will just come back.

What makes you doubt she isn't evil? And all those things you say can easily be explained. Flemeth wants the OGB and the only way to get that would be through the Warden and Alistair. She clearly knows Hawke will be of use to her and possibly knows he/she could bring about the end of the Chantry's power, (for example). And if I went out and killed hundreds of people, but no one knew my true motives, would I be OK in your books too?

If you saved my life, then yes you would be. All we hear about Flemeth is rumor, and old children bed time stories. Where does the myth and the real person really merge? Flemeth is an unknown variable, and people saying she wanted the God baby is just speculation. Morrigan wants the God baby, and for all we know Flemeth never told Morrigan to do the ritual that would bring about the baby.

[Taleroth]

I trust Morrigan. And I just finished my planned import game finishing with Witch Hunt. The way she talks about Flemeth in Witch Hunt implies Flemeth is up to some seriously bleeped up bleep. 

Modifié par Taleroth, 12 février 2011 - 07:14 .

[Potato Cat]

ShadyKat wrote...

Elfman wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

There has been no hint that Flemeth is evil. Most people assume she is, but she did save the Warden, who then saves everyone from the Blight. She also will save Hawke and his family. No one knows her true motives, so until then, Flemeth is okay in my book.


Plus killing her seems like a waste of time, since she will just come back.

What makes you doubt she isn't evil? And all those things you say can easily be explained. Flemeth wants the OGB and the only way to get that would be through the Warden and Alistair. She clearly knows Hawke will be of use to her and possibly knows he/she could bring about the end of the Chantry's power, (for example). And if I went out and killed hundreds of people, but no one knew my true motives, would I be OK in your books too?

If you saved my life, then yes you would be. All we hear about Flemeth is rumor, and old children bed time stories. Where does the myth and the real person really merge? Flemeth is an unknown variable, and people saying she wanted the God baby is just speculation. Morrigan wants the God baby, and for all we know Flemeth never told Morrigan to do the ritual that would bring about the baby.

Where else would Morrigan learn about the Dark Ritual if not from Flemeth? Morrigan is also said to represent the world and the conflict within it. Morrigan is trying to do the right thing and stop Flemeth, the greater evil. We saw the true Morrigan at the end of Witch Hunt, she's very vulnerable. What she says about love is just lies from Flemeth. You can tell she loves the Warden when she tries to get him to break up with her and in Witch Hunt as they step through the Eluvian. Flemeth's the villain here, not Morrigan.

[ShadyKat]

Taleroth wrote...

I trust Morrigan. And I just finished my planned import game finishing with Witch Hunt. The way she talks about Flemeth in Witch Hunt implies Flemeth is up to some seriously bleeped up bleep. 

And it sounds like Morrigan is up to the same thing. I mean she doesn't come off as a saint herself. It's hard to tell what either one of them is up to.

[Fenn_]

Nope don't want to kill her I did not even do it in origins she offered me the book and I just told Morrigan I tuke care of her and Alistair was in favor of tricking morrigan.

Modifié par Fenn , 12 février 2011 - 07:25 .

[Behindyounow]

She probably wants to kill Morrigan. Thats a goal I can really get behind, so she has my support.

[ShadyKat]

Elfman wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

Elfman wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

There has been no hint that Flemeth is evil. Most people assume she is, but she did save the Warden, who then saves everyone from the Blight. She also will save Hawke and his family. No one knows her true motives, so until then, Flemeth is okay in my book.


Plus killing her seems like a waste of time, since she will just come back.

What makes you doubt she isn't evil? And all those things you say can easily be explained. Flemeth wants the OGB and the only way to get that would be through the Warden and Alistair. She clearly knows Hawke will be of use to her and possibly knows he/she could bring about the end of the Chantry's power, (for example). And if I went out and killed hundreds of people, but no one knew my true motives, would I be OK in your books too?

If you saved my life, then yes you would be. All we hear about Flemeth is rumor, and old children bed time stories. Where does the myth and the real person really merge? Flemeth is an unknown variable, and people saying she wanted the God baby is just speculation. Morrigan wants the God baby, and for all we know Flemeth never told Morrigan to do the ritual that would bring about the baby.

Where else would Morrigan learn about the Dark Ritual if not from Flemeth? Morrigan is also said to represent the world and the conflict within it. Morrigan is trying to do the right thing and stop Flemeth, the greater evil. We saw the true Morrigan at the end of Witch Hunt, she's very vulnerable. What she says about love is just lies from Flemeth. You can tell she loves the Warden when she tries to get him to break up with her and in Witch Hunt as they step through the Eluvian. Flemeth's the villain here, not Morrigan.

Morrigan is not to be trusted anymore then Flemeth. If yo really think that she wants to stop Flemeth from the goodness of her heart, then you are a bit naive. As for her loving the Warden, yeah she loved him enough to leave you to fight the Archdemon if you don't have sex with her to help her have the God baby. Seems like she cared more about her own selfish plan, then of the fate of the Warden or Fereldan.

[falconlord5]

Happily. Not that killing her seems to do anything.

[Klace]

My theory is that Flemeth wants to use Merill as a vessel, it's a perfect fit.

The time skips in the 10 year story allow the writers to be more ambiguous with her death.

She dies either way, but you'll know it's from your Warden if you did, and if not, they'll make up another explanation, like it was another used adventurer.

[scootermcgaffin]

I loved Flemeth. Way more interesting than Morrigan. And Kate Mulgrew knocked it out of the park with the voice.

[Potato Cat]

ShadyKat wrote...

Elfman wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

Elfman wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

There has been no hint that Flemeth is evil. Most people assume she is, but she did save the Warden, who then saves everyone from the Blight. She also will save Hawke and his family. No one knows her true motives, so until then, Flemeth is okay in my book.


Plus killing her seems like a waste of time, since she will just come back.

What makes you doubt she isn't evil? And all those things you say can easily be explained. Flemeth wants the OGB and the only way to get that would be through the Warden and Alistair. She clearly knows Hawke will be of use to her and possibly knows he/she could bring about the end of the Chantry's power, (for example). And if I went out and killed hundreds of people, but no one knew my true motives, would I be OK in your books too?

If you saved my life, then yes you would be. All we hear about Flemeth is rumor, and old children bed time stories. Where does the myth and the real person really merge? Flemeth is an unknown variable, and people saying she wanted the God baby is just speculation. Morrigan wants the God baby, and for all we know Flemeth never told Morrigan to do the ritual that would bring about the baby.

Where else would Morrigan learn about the Dark Ritual if not from Flemeth? Morrigan is also said to represent the world and the conflict within it. Morrigan is trying to do the right thing and stop Flemeth, the greater evil. We saw the true Morrigan at the end of Witch Hunt, she's very vulnerable. What she says about love is just lies from Flemeth. You can tell she loves the Warden when she tries to get him to break up with her and in Witch Hunt as they step through the Eluvian. Flemeth's the villain here, not Morrigan.

Morrigan is not to be trusted anymore then Flemeth. If yo really think that she wants to stop Flemeth from the goodness of her heart, then you are a bit naive. As for her loving the Warden, yeah she loved him enough to leave you to fight the Archdemon if you don't have sex with her to help her have the God baby. Seems like she cared more about her own selfish plan, then of the fate of the Warden or Fereldan.

I'm not saying Morrigan is trustworthy, by any means. I'm also not saying Morrigan isn't evil, but she's definitely the lesser of two evils. And let's remember conversation with her at camp. Disagreements with her end up with her getting very angry. Something she feels strongly about is of course going to make her leave. And saying she doesn't care about the Warden or Fereldan is like saying Leliana doesn't when you defiled the Urn Of Sacred Ashes. By that logic, Leliana obviously cared more about a woman people burned centuries ago than everyone still alive in Thedas and beyond. Same goes for Alistair if you let Loghain live. Just change a couple of things...

[Potato Cat]

Klace wrote...

My theory is that Flemeth wants to use Merill as a vessel, it's a perfect fit.
The time skips in the 10 year story allow the writers to be more ambiguous with her death.
She dies either way, but you'll know it's from your Warden if you did, and if not, they'll make up another explanation, like it was another used adventurer.

 
Actually, that's a good theory. And it fits in with the big plot twist meant to happen at the Dalish Camp with the amulet and Merrill leaving. Perhaps Flemeth tries to use it to take over Merrill and then you have to defeat Flemeth. And during the fight, the most of the clan is slaughtered and they exile Merrill.

[Marionetten]

Only if I can kill her with overwhelming affection.

[Elvis_Mazur]

She is powerful, selfish and not exactly a friend. She must "die" again.

[Erani]

If it's possible, yeah I'll most likely kill her again...selfish witch.