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[Gnoster]

I am read on several thrads that many reach level 25 by the end of the High Dragon fight.

I am wandering how this is possible, as I in now 4 playthroughs can only reach a maximum of level 23 and that is just barely.

I have solved every quest (that I know of), unlocked every locked door/chest I can find, and killed all monsters I have seen (except some very few I persaude or talk down).

I know level 25 is not a must and not even needed, so it's just to calm my curiosity that I would like to know if others, who now reach level 25 know of any hidden areas, monsters or other stuff, which they at first had overlooked.

I finish the origins at either level 3 or 4 depending on character race and class.

[Forst1999]

The only way i can think of is exploiting that you get XP for donating in the allied suply chests. With the High Dragon still alive one can not donate gold, but ridicilous amounts of elf-root, which would be much more effective anyway.
I'm normally around level 15/16 when i beat the High Dragon. From there to lvl 25 you need over 100.000 XP. That's 10.000 units of Elf-root worth 50 sovereigns. A single donation can net you 880 XP for 88 roots. So that's 114 trips to Varathorn to get 88 elfroots and than to the camp to donate them. I've never done that, and i think i would go crazy while trying.

Modifié par Forst1999, 15 juillet 2010 - 08:42 .

[Maverick827]

Forst1999 wrote...

The only way i can think of is exploiting that you get XP for donating in the allied suply chests. With the High Dragon still alive one can not donate gold, but ridicilous amounts of elf-root, which would be much more effective anyway.
I'm normally around level 15/16 when i beat the High Dragon. From there to lvl 25 you need over 100.000 XP. That's 10.000 units of Elf-root worth 50 sovereigns. A single donation can net you 880 XP for 88 roots. So that's 114 trips to Varathorn to get 88 elfroots and than to the camp to donate them. I've never done that, and i think i would go crazy while trying.

You can stockpile elfroots and then turn them in 89 at a time.

You might as well just use the console to give yourself the XP at that point, though.  You can even throw away the 50 sovereigns if that's any more fair to you.

[Gnoster]

Ok, that was definately one thing I have never done. I never donate anything, so might as well do that since I overflow in stuff I don't need, especially elfroot.

[Last Darkness]

Theres several exp exploits, usualy because of infinete quest/turn in loops. But there is a mechanic in the game designed to allow you to make alot of exp and thats your troops in camp. You get exp everytime you donate to them. Unfortunetly only two of them are real options. If you sided with teh elves in braecillian forest you cna basicaly donate infinete elfroots till you max out. If this isnt a option you can donate gold to Arl Eamons troops for more exp. This latter option is very expensive and requires you to either outright cheat to get gold OR to use the potent lyrium potion crafting setup to make infinete money.

[Zy-El]

If you play on PC, you can install mods that add areas to your main campaign. I've added about 6 new areas but I don't bother playing them all. After playing 4-5 of them, I can get to level 24 by the Landsmeet. After Landsmeet, I'm already level 25 and only my companions are earning xps at that point.

[Last Darkness]

Also you dont really need to be over lvl 18 in orgens. 20 is ideal, 25 is just being as the germans say "Neat und tidy"

[TBastian]

I've reached 25 around the time of the last battle by making sure my PC did most of the kills (more XP->more levels for me->more levels for everyone). I donated all my spare elf roots to my armies (none were bought from stores), I made sure I got every scrap of rogue-related XP (trap disarming, etc), I finished almost every quest (obviously some quests force you to take only 1 route), triggered all possible encounters, got most of the codex and I did RtO and WK.
I do not believe it is possible to legitimately reach 25 before the High Dragon, in that game I saved that arc for last and my PC basically did around 90% of all the killing. My party members were responsible for most of the rest, and I did my best to make sure none of the non-party NPC's killed anyone "valuable". The death list includes quite a few neutral/"allied" NPC's. They do give XP.

Modifié par TBastian, 16 juillet 2010 - 09:08 .

[DWSmiley]

TBastian wrote...

I've reached 25 around the time of the last battle by making sure my PC did most of the kills (more XP->more levels for me->more levels for everyone).

I didn't think it mattered whether the pc or a companion got the kill, as long as it's a "permanent" companion, i.e., one who can join you in camp.

[Zy-El]

Whoever delivers the final death blow gets a slight bonus xps. That's why sometimes you see 53 xps versus 50 xps for the same enemy killed in any given mob.

[RJRoupe]

Is donating bugged on Xbox? I swear, looking at my xp bar before and after donations of runes, gold, and elfroot, it didn't budge for any. Maybe I just did something wrong, but I would think getting 880 XP would move it enough to notice.

Another thing you can do for more XP, is go to Denerim as soon as you leave Lothering (or soon after) and buy the Archivist's Sash. It gives more XP for the Codex pages.

Modifié par RJRoupe, 18 juillet 2010 - 10:34 .

[Maverick827]

I used to be really anal about "max XP" runs, but you need to be kind of a dick in those and kill everyone, run solo, etc. Now I just donate Elfroot now and again whenever I feel like it; top off certain levels before starting something like the Deep Roads. It's much more satisfying.

[Last Darkness]

RJRoupe wrote...

Is donating bugged on Xbox? I swear, looking at my xp bar before and after donations of runes, gold, and elfroot, it didn't budge for any. Maybe I just did something wrong, but I would think getting 880 XP would move it enough to notice.

Another thing you can do for more XP, is go to Denerim as soon as you leave Lothering (or soon after) and buy the Archivist's Sash. It gives more XP for the Codex pages.

I donated around 3k gold on my lvl 24 dwarf and my exp bar moves about 30%

[Zy-El]

Last Darkness wrote...

RJRoupe wrote...
Is donating bugged on Xbox? I swear, looking at my xp bar before and after donations of runes, gold, and elfroot, it didn't budge for any. Maybe I just did something wrong, but I would think getting 880 XP would move it enough to notice.

Another thing you can do for more XP, is go to Denerim as soon as you leave Lothering (or soon after) and buy the Archivist's Sash. It gives more XP for the Codex pages.

I donated around 3k gold on my lvl 24 dwarf and my exp bar moves about 30%

Must be a console bug; the xps from donation chests works fine on PC. 
BTW, I've used mod add-ons to add 6 new areas to my Origins map.  I gain enough xps from those areas such that I don't need to use the donation chests anymore; I only use them now to bolster the endgame troops with whatever junk runes, craftables and whatnot I can spare.  Playing on the PC - gotta love it!! 

[Novadove]

i play a rogue and open every chest. i got 25 just entering denerim at the end.

you must dispose every trap and not trigger them.

Wear the exp belt from beginning.

[Last Darkness]

Im working on a Mod idea if my team can get to it that will hopefully add a area to the end of the game that will basicaly allow players to reach max level. Sorta like a boss challenge area, with things like multiple brood mothers, dragons, and absolulte hordes of enemies.

[RJRoupe]

Last Darkness wrote...

RJRoupe wrote...

Is donating bugged on Xbox? I swear, looking at my xp bar before and after donations of runes, gold, and elfroot, it didn't budge for any. Maybe I just did something wrong, but I would think getting 880 XP would move it enough to notice.

Another thing you can do for more XP, is go to Denerim as soon as you leave Lothering (or soon after) and buy the Archivist's Sash. It gives more XP for the Codex pages.

I donated around 3k gold on my lvl 24 dwarf and my exp bar moves about 30%

I never donated that much money, only about 4-5 gold total, so maybe that's why I couldn't see it move, but I could swear it didn't move when I donated a full stack of elfroot. Good to know it's not bugged though, I'll have to try it again next time I play (currently playing RDR waiting for the patch that fixes the patch )

[JHByrne]

Two different characters played through. First, Human Noble, hit level 23.9 (almost 24).



Second character, Elven Mage, also reached level 23.9



I did NOT use any experience exploits (I never knew about the allied chests exploit when I played through), nor did I even have 'Stone Prisoner' DLC (I didn't like the idea of the golem, nor did I like what I read on various posts about it: an uppity statue? No thanks.).



Both of my characters were heavy killers. The Human Noble (Warrior) was always at the front of a fight. By game's end, his kills were something like 1180.

The Elven Mage made extensive use of AOE spells, mana clash, etc. Final kill tally was about 1470.



I'm alright with being level 23.9

It gives me room to grow, if/when I ever get around to playing Awakening.

[Zy-El]

Awakening allows your character to advance up to level 35. So, you have plenty of room to grow.

[Arttis]

Aoe kill all alies you get xp from that.
Example dogs in the tower if you kill grants you extra xp.You can only do it with Aoe and they have a large amount of regen out of combat so doing it within combat would be best.
Another example is Loghains push quest.
Kill all friedly soldiers and get extra.

Modifié par Arttis, 29 juillet 2010 - 05:50 .

[Kaedah]

I think it is very possible to reach 25 by the end of origins. The only way i see you could reach 25 by the high dragon would be use some kind of level/xp exploit. The only time i used it was in lothering , i leveled to 13, that way i would work out and i would be 25, by the end of the game:)

[Last Darkness]

The Allied chests is not a exploit, its there by design as a repeatable quest.



I think a Rogue Warden is the only way to max level without any exploits, gotta disarm and all that jazz plus using Lucky ring and archivist sash to boost exp.

[Elhanan]

Last Darkness wrote...

The Allied chests is not a exploit, its there by design as a repeatable quest.

I think a Rogue Warden is the only way to max level without any exploits, gotta disarm and all that jazz plus using Lucky ring and archivist sash to boost exp.

Agreed with the chests, but my Mages are the first ones getting to 25th with party skills allowing other quests to be obtained & completed; no sash required.

[Xerxes8933A]

I tried the elfroot turn in quest this morning. I turned in enough to gain a complete level for my PC, but all my companions still had the same amount of XP as they had before I turned anything in. Do they not share the XP gotten from that as they do the rest of the XP?

[Elhanan]

Xerxes8933A wrote...

I tried the elfroot turn in quest this morning. I turned in enough to gain a complete level for my PC, but all my companions still had the same amount of XP as they had before I turned anything in. Do they not share the XP gotten from that as they do the rest of the XP?

AFAIK, they appear to Lvl Up when you do, so check each of them after you are finished.