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#101
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I'm not sticking it out to the ending. I stuck it out one more issue than I planned just to see if that really happened or not.

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There's a reason that I've been sticking to Cosmic Marvel. Continuos awesome.

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It's not like it can be any worse than Secret Invasion.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

I'm more annoyed about them killing Bucky...again. That they were going to cave on him being Captain America with the new movie coming out was inevitable. But killing him in the process was uneccessary and that it was done really lamely in the terrible Fear Itself plotline was insulting.

Between that and DC doing the same bad Image makeover that Marvel once did, I think I might be giving up comics again for a bit.


I have my doubts Bucky´s death is to stay. I don´t think the new Cap & Bucky series is a mini or only WW2 period. If it is permanent death I´ll drop Cap. Im getting tired of so many plot driven events whose conclusion usually have little to do with its plot.

Pretty annoyed by Ultimate Spiderman´s however. He was probably the only heoric main character in the ultimate verse (Ultimates aren´t what I would call heroes). I´ll probably drop the title after the funeral issues. It´s a pity, I like the character concept of Spiderman, but now this one is dead and the other was ruined with One More Day (morals can go literally to hell, not feeling guilt about the consequences of my actions is more important).

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I'm more annoyed about them killing Bucky...again. That they were going to cave on him being Captain America with the new movie coming out was inevitable. But killing him in the process was uneccessary and that it was done really lamely in the terrible Fear Itself plotline was insulting.

Between that and DC doing the same bad Image makeover that Marvel once did, I think I might be giving up comics again for a bit.


I have my doubts Bucky´s death is to stay. I don´t think the new Cap & Bucky series is a mini or only WW2 period. If it is permanent death I´ll drop Cap. Im getting tired of so many plot driven events whose conclusion usually have little to do with its plot.

Pretty annoyed by Ultimate Spiderman´s however. He was probably the only heoric main character in the ultimate verse (Ultimates aren´t what I would call heroes). I´ll probably drop the title after the funeral issues. It´s a pity, I like the character concept of Spiderman, but now this one is dead and the other was ruined with One More Day (morals can go literally to hell, not feeling guilt about the consequences of my actions is more important).


They already have a replacement for Ultimate Spidey lined up. We know nothing yet.

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Modifié par SpiderFan1217, 14 juillet 2011 - 08:24 .


#106
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Been a fan since 1996.

I can't stop now, reading and collecting those Marvel comic books and graphic novels :3

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I love em. But this Fear itself thing isn't quite as good as I'd like. After Civil War the events have been less than outstanding.

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Marvel...DC...both of them undermine their successes by retconning deaths and not playing for keeps.

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Well?


I'd rather talk DC and Powergirls huuuuuugeeee....ehm...powers.

But maybe that's just me.

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Nizzemancer wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Well?


I'd rather talk DC and Powergirls huuuuuugeeee....ehm...powers.

But maybe that's just me.


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Image IPB  Yes, her... powers, are quite... impressive.  Image IPB

I'll talk DC. I don't know as much as I should though.

Modifié par SpiderFan1217, 15 juillet 2011 - 03:59 .


#111
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Changed the topic to include DC.

#112
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For those who care, new Captain America clips have hit the web, four total. I put links in the First Avenger thread.

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Hellbound555 wrote...

Marvel...DC...both of them undermine their successes by retconning deaths and not playing for keeps.


Image IPB  Tell that to Gwen Stacy.  Image IPB

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Sadly, Power Girl is one of the characters who wont be surviving the DC revamp. Instead we're getting a more angry Supergirl. Bleh.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Sadly, Power Girl is one of the characters who wont be surviving the DC revamp. Instead we're getting a more angry Supergirl. Bleh.


Image IPB  Srysly? That's whack yo!  Image IPB

I new the were restarting again, but I didn't know they were removing her.

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Yep alot of my favorite titles wont be surviving the revamp. The JSA as a whole seems gone, except for Mr. Terrific (of all possible choices) who's getting his own book.

They're even undoing one of the greatest comics of all time 'The Killing Joke' by making Barbara Gordon uncrippled and Batgirl again. They should be flogged for that.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Yep alot of my favorite titles wont be surviving the revamp. The JSA as a whole seems gone, except for Mr. Terrific (of all possible choices) who's getting his own book.

They're even undoing one of the greatest comics of all time 'The Killing Joke' by making Barbara Gordon uncrippled and Batgirl again. They should be flogged for that.

I've seen some conjecture that she'll actually still be crippled, but using cybernetics or something to let her walk. 

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Cutlass Jack wrote...
They're even undoing one of the greatest comics of all time 'The Killing Joke' by making Barbara Gordon uncrippled and Batgirl again. They should be flogged for that.


Booooooooooo.

#119
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What about Kyle Rayner? They getting rid of him too? GL Rayner and Power Girl were the only two heroes DC had that I really liked.

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Marvel...DC...both of them undermine their successes by retconning deaths and not playing for keeps.


Image IPB  Tell that to Gwen Stacy.  Image IPB


see this is what im talking about. After spiderman hangmanned gwen stacy during his fight with green goblin (unless if that retconned too), she stayed dead. and THIS is the result. You FEEL something. It sticks with you.

You know what happens when people come back from the dead regularly in a story? The comics might as well slap us in the face with a big "oh it was all a dream" storyline.

Again with spiderman, remember when he revealed his identity to the public and the kingpin ends up killing his grandmother? Wouldve been interesting. but no. dues ex machina, he makes a deal with mephisto and everything is back again. I might as well watch an episode of fairly odd parents.

Stories should have permanent, irreversable endings that change the world that its set upon. if it does not have this, then its not story.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Yep alot of my favorite titles wont be surviving the revamp. The JSA as a whole seems gone, except for Mr. Terrific (of all possible choices) who's getting his own book.

They're even undoing one of the greatest comics of all time 'The Killing Joke' by making Barbara Gordon uncrippled and Batgirl again. They should be flogged for that.

If people b!tch enough they will put most things back to the way they were just like they always do.

I myself want Power Girl back, only woman superhero with an outfit like that I can take serious (as in she is cool and funny).

Also I am happy that small time heroes (like Blue Beetle and Firestorm) have more of a name in this DC relaunch.

Modifié par Some Geth, 15 juillet 2011 - 07:59 .


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Is it 100% certain Flashpoint will be rebooting the DC universe? I'm still hoping it's some experimental intermezzo.

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virumor wrote...

Is it 100% certain Flashpoint will be rebooting the DC universe? I'm still hoping it's some experimental intermezzo.


well since everything will revert back to comic issue #1 after flashpoint...im inclined to say yes. its a reboot. of the entire universe.

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I had to give up Comics as a Hobby last year, I'm a DC fan so that may be a good thing right now. They had a great thing going with "Blackest Night" and could have built from there...but no...gotta go Retcon :(

On a related note...watched the "Emerald Knights" DVD. Well worth the watch.

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Hellbound555 wrote...

virumor wrote...

Is it 100% certain Flashpoint will be rebooting the DC universe? I'm still hoping it's some experimental intermezzo.


well since everything will revert back to comic issue #1 after flashpoint...im inclined to say yes. its a reboot. of the entire universe.


It's more of a relaunch than a reboot.:whistle: