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[Nerevar-as]

JohnEpler wrote...

Historically, though, big events do tend to happen in clusters. World War I, the Depression and World War II didn't all occur within a span of 30 years through coincidence. They're interconnected in a pretty significant way.

Now this pararelism is interesting ...

[Orogun01]

JohnEpler wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

To be fair, the only -really- safe thing we could have called it is "Fantasy Game," and that doesn't really jump off the shelves, you know?

I wouldn't worry, though, we've got a lot of age, and a lot of Dragon left in us. We have plans, you see. Deep, diabolical plans for the future. Oh yes.

I still vote for 'There Might Be Mages'.

How about 'There will Be Mages'

The whole game can be about A BASTARD IN A BASKET!!!

[mr_luga]

JohnEpler wrote...

Historically, though, big events do tend to happen in clusters. World War I, the Depression and World War II didn't all occur within a span of 30 years through coincidence. They're interconnected in a pretty significant way.

A good point, but I still hope you know what im trying to say here, and I hope you guys will keep on going with the world of Thedas, even if you have to change the name "Dragon Age" (Though I bet that wont happend becouse of PR reasons or some mumbo jumbo)

Becouse I really love the lore of the place, and I really want it to be built upon more and more.

[Ulicus]

DragonOfWhiteThunder wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Does anyone remember Baldur´s gate 2 ?

This. Baldur's Gate 2 was set almost entirely in Amn, putting it in a different nation from the titular city altogether.

And that was really annoying. I know nothing is stopping BioWare from doing the same thing again with future titles, but the last thing I'd want to see is a game set in the Black Age called "Dragon Age: Something". Especially "Dragon Age: Black Age"
 
I still prefer to refer to BG2 as SoA.

Sadly, marketing folk are obsessed with sequels with a big fat "II" after them.

Modifié par Ulicus, 15 juillet 2010 - 07:26 .

[bzombo]

mr_luga wrote...

The biggest problem, to me, with the Dragon age IP; is that it's called "Dragon age"

Why? Becouse it kind of limits the game, you need to be in the dragon age timeline in the dragon age IP Becouse.. Well it's called Dragon age.

Can't go to the next age, and still call it dragon age, becouse it's not.

And this kind of frustrates me

I think that's the biggest problem, this also bothers me in Anime series as well, like Naruto, you know that guy cant die or anything, becouse the show is named after the guy.

Anyway, figured I'd just mention it, It would be great if a Bioware person could come in and say that they'd just call it "Diablo Age" or whatever if they pass on the next age, but still being in the same universe.

If you guys know what im talking about here, im horrible at explaining things. ^^; 

To sum it up. Calling the game "Dragon Age" instead of "Thedas" limits the game to be spent inside the dragon age, instead of any time, anywhere(Granted you can still go anywhere now, within the dragon age), within Thedas.

Not sure if anyone have thought about it. These are those silly concerns I think about

the name of the game does not preclude them from moving to another age. that's what subtitles are for. couldn't the game be called dragon age for recognition purposes with a subtitle explaining the new age? i'm not the most creative person, but something like "Dragon Age 3: Dawn of the New Age"  or whatever. obviously, bioware would be much more creative and come up with something that flows better, but it's just to get my point across.

[MKDAWUSS]

The game could get a new name at the dawn of a new age. Same 'chise, only a different name. Kinda like how some sports teams do every now and again.

[Amentep]

As long as there's a dragon out there, it can be the Dragon Age, though. So while the Age title is finite, the finite period can be a really, really long time.

Which means there's only a problem if they unequivocally kill off all the Dragons, on screen, and show all the bodies (and well I guess all the dragon houses to prove that no eggs were left behind or something).

Provided Dragon Age becomes a popular and beloved and long lived series, I imagine that eventually there will be "spin offs" with other titles, probably with a title/subtitle/ad copy like:

Into the Kokari Wilds
-an adventure in Thedas
--a new story in the classic "DRAGON AGE ™" setting

Modifié par Amentep, 15 juillet 2010 - 08:09 .

[Wittand25]

Amentep wrote...



As long as there's a dragon out there, it can be the Dragon Age, though. So while the Age title is finite, the finite period can be a really, really long time.

Which means there's only a problem if they unequivocally kill off all the Dragons, on screen, and show all the bodies (and well I guess all the dragon houses to prove that no eggs were left behind or something).

Provided Dragon Age becomes a popular and beloved and long lived series, I imagine that eventually there will be "spin offs" with other titles, probably with a title/subtitle/ad copy like:



Into the Kokari Wilds

-an adventure in Thedas

--a new story in the classic "DRAGON AGE ™" setting

No the age is finite, after 70 more years the Dragon Age is over even if two dragons would mate right on top of the grand cathedral in Val Royeaux. The name of the current age changes every hundred years. But if they make a game outside the time-frame of the dragon age they can simply call it "DA: The Exalted Marches" making just those two letters the name of the franchise.

[Mustang678]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

To be fair, the only -really- safe thing we could have called it is "Fantasy Game," and that doesn't really jump off the shelves, you know?

I wouldn't worry, though, we've got a lot of age, and a lot of Dragon left in us. We have plans, you see. Deep, diabolical plans for the future. Oh yes.

I have an unrelated question.
Is Mike related to Marc Laidlaw from Valve?

[Snowbug]

Mustang678 wrote...

Is Mike related to Marc Laidlaw from Valve?

Been asked before, answer is no.

[Amentep]

Wittand25 wrote...

Amentep wrote...

As long as there's a dragon out there, it can be the Dragon Age, though. So while the Age title is finite, the finite period can be a really, really long time.
Which means there's only a problem if they unequivocally kill off all the Dragons, on screen, and show all the bodies (and well I guess all the dragon houses to prove that no eggs were left behind or something).
Provided Dragon Age becomes a popular and beloved and long lived series, I imagine that eventually there will be "spin offs" with other titles, probably with a title/subtitle/ad copy like:

Into the Kokari Wilds
-an adventure in Thedas
--a new story in the classic "DRAGON AGE ™" setting

No the age is finite, after 70 more years the Dragon Age is over even if two dragons would mate right on top of the grand cathedral in Val Royeaux. The name of the current age changes every hundred years. But if they make a game outside the time-frame of the dragon age they can simply call it "DA: The Exalted Marches" making just those two letters the name of the franchise.

Hmmm, interesting.  Also makes more sense why the new game is set somewhat contemporaneously with the original.

Still as you say there are ways to still use DA and market the game (and really Baldur's Gate II isn't set in or around Balder's Gate, so its not like Bioware doesn't have a history with this sort of thing... )

*Awaits Dragon Age 7: Not actually in the Dragon Age* 

[Stanley Woo]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
I still vote for 'There Might Be Mages'.

There Might Be Mages II: No, Seriously This Time, There Might Be!

There Might Be Mages III: There Could Be Conjurers!
There Might Be Mages IV: Perhaps There's Prestidigitators!
There Might Be Mages V: Suppose There Are Sorcerers?
There Might Be Mages VI: Wherefore Are There Wizards?

Really, though, Baldur's Gate wasn't limited to the city of Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter nights wasn't limited to just the city of Neverwinter. the Jade Empire was big enough to accommodate a variety of plots, and the Old Republic has had two games full of Knights thereof, comic book series, and an upcoming MMO to play with.

don't let the finiteness of the tern fool you. There's 100 years and an entire world of stories to explore.

[xXDWARFAREXx]

I think the OP seriously underestimates the amount of activity you can cram into a century, or however much the Dragon Age will last. Hell, with good storytelling and a way to keep it all interesting, you can make a ~40 hour game focused entirely on the events of two days and have it be a major success. The same goes for any period of time, you have far, far more time than you need to get done all that needs to be done in a virtual setting.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Can't wait for Dragon Age: The End of the Dragon Age.



That's probably still a ways off though.

[bzombo]

Ulicus wrote...

DragonOfWhiteThunder wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Does anyone remember Baldur´s gate 2 ?

This. Baldur's Gate 2 was set almost entirely in Amn, putting it in a different nation from the titular city altogether.

And that was really annoying. I know nothing is stopping BioWare from doing the same thing again with future titles, but the last thing I'd want to see is a game set in the Black Age called "Dragon Age: Something". Especially "Dragon Age: Black Age"
 
I still prefer to refer to BG2 as SoA.

Sadly, marketing folk are obsessed with sequels with a big fat "II" after them.

does it really matter? the name of the game is the name of the franchise. if the age in the game changes, it is still a dragon age game. it's just a new time period in the same world. i don't get the hang up people have about this. it's a title. wouldn't a title with the subtitle "a game set in the Dragon Age word" be a lot more obnoxious than just calling the game dragon age?

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

I don't think the game is tied to the name. Dungeons and Dragons hasn't really been about dungeons or dragons for years.

[joriandrake]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
I still vote for 'There Might Be Mages'.

There Might Be Mages II: No, Seriously This Time, There Might Be!

There Might Be Mages III: There Could Be Conjurers!
There Might Be Mages IV: Perhaps There's Prestidigitators!
There Might Be Mages V: Suppose There Are Sorcerers?
There Might Be Mages VI: Wherefore Are There Wizards?

Really, though, Baldur's Gate wasn't limited to the city of Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter nights wasn't limited to just the city of Neverwinter. the Jade Empire was big enough to accommodate a variety of plots, and the Old Republic has had two games full of Knights thereof, comic book series, and an upcoming MMO to play with.

don't let the finiteness of the tern fool you. There's 100 years and an entire world of stories to explore.

It doesn't even have to be only 100 years, an age can be like the "MIddle Age" or "Age of Enlightement" or "Age of Exploration"

[Ulicus]

bzombo wrote...

does it really matter?

Well, clearly -- to me -- it does. Why even ask? You don't care? Awesome sauce. Good for you 'n all that rot. I still do. *shrug* Wouldn't be the end of the world, or anything... but irritating? Sure. Just like it'd be irritating to read a Greyhawk novel with "FORGOTTEN REALMS" plastered across the front.

Modifié par Ulicus, 15 juillet 2010 - 09:05 .

[bzombo]

Ulicus wrote...

bzombo wrote...

does it really matter?

Well, clearly -- to me -- it does. Why even ask? You don't care? Awesome sauce. Good for you 'n all that rot. I still do. *shrug*

but it's about name recognition. if the stop using the name dragon age they risk losing sales, which does not help the long term future of the product either. the name dragon age identifies what it is, just like baldur's gate 2 even though it was not in baldur's gate. it was part of that game franchise and thus maintained the name. the name is more just a title than a description. at least, in the end that's what it is regardless of the origin of the name. no pun intended.

[bzombo]

double post.

Modifié par bzombo, 15 juillet 2010 - 09:08 .

[FDrage]

joriandrake wrote...

It doesn't even have to be only 100 years, an age can be like the "MIddle Age" or "Age of Enlightement" or "Age of Exploration"

True ... but what the Cantry discrips as an age is 100 years ... and in the last year of an age the name of the next year is devined.

Modifié par FDrage, 15 juillet 2010 - 09:29 .

[mr_luga]

bzombo wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

bzombo wrote...

does it really matter?

Well, clearly -- to me -- it does. Why even ask? You don't care? Awesome sauce. Good for you 'n all that rot. I still do. *shrug*

but it's about name recognition. if the stop using the name dragon age they risk losing sales, which does not help the long term future of the product either -snip-

Which is why I said the problem with Dragon age, is the name   If it was named something diffrent, this woudnt have been an issue. Obviously this thread is just semi-serious, it's not like I want bioware to swap names or anything now, it's just, frustrating for me to see it be so restricted in that age. I know you can make alot of stories in those 100 years, but having so many big things to happend in those 100 years is just.. It dosnt fly well with me.

I like things to span a long time  

The witcher, for example, is stuck with Witchers, another limit with the name.  But it can take place in any time though since it's not named after a time(Like Dragon Age is)

I'm not sure why people seem to think it's okay to name Dragon age with a subtitle with a diffrent age.

It soudns wrong like "Dragon age: Dark age; It's not the dragon age anymore, it's the dark age, but we call it dragon age anyways, yay"

[Gill Kaiser]

joriandrake wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
I still vote for 'There Might Be Mages'.

There Might Be Mages II: No, Seriously This Time, There Might Be!

There Might Be Mages III: There Could Be Conjurers!
There Might Be Mages IV: Perhaps There's Prestidigitators!
There Might Be Mages V: Suppose There Are Sorcerers?
There Might Be Mages VI: Wherefore Are There Wizards?

Really, though, Baldur's Gate wasn't limited to the city of Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter nights wasn't limited to just the city of Neverwinter. the Jade Empire was big enough to accommodate a variety of plots, and the Old Republic has had two games full of Knights thereof, comic book series, and an upcoming MMO to play with.

don't let the finiteness of the tern fool you. There's 100 years and an entire world of stories to explore.

It doesn't even have to be only 100 years, an age can be like the "MIddle Age" or "Age of Enlightement" or "Age of Exploration"

Not according to the Chantry calendar.

[mr_luga]

Yeah every 100 years a new age is named if I recall correctly

[GraciousCat]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
I still vote for 'There Might Be Mages'.

There Might Be Mages II: No, Seriously This Time, There Might Be!

There Might Be Mages III: There Could Be Conjurers!
There Might Be Mages IV: Perhaps There's Prestidigitators!
There Might Be Mages V: Suppose There Are Sorcerers?
There Might Be Mages VI: Wherefore Are There Wizards?

Really, though, Baldur's Gate wasn't limited to the city of Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter nights wasn't limited to just the city of Neverwinter. the Jade Empire was big enough to accommodate a variety of plots, and the Old Republic has had two games full of Knights thereof, comic book series, and an upcoming MMO to play with.

don't let the finiteness of the tern fool you. There's 100 years and an entire world of stories to explore.

You know, someone (not myself) could take that post to mean that there are going to be 6 Dragon Age games:whistle: