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[kidbd15]

The article says how the illusive man came to be, so I'm guessing his origins story... but I think most of the things pertaining to the games will remain a mystery (at least, I hope they do). There might be things in the comic that will allude to ME3, but I don't think too much will be revealed.



I'm guessing the story structure will go something like this:

1) Amidst first contact war, introduced to TIM (maybe we'll get a real name from him)

2) Fighting continues, TIM is sent on some sort of mission

3) During the time of this mission something tragic happens to TIM, maybe family death and/or a serious injury caused by Turians

4) TIM has hard time coming to terms with this tragedy

5) Peace is made with the Turians, angering TIM further and thus planting the seed to TIM's desire of human dominance

6) This new desire leads to TIM to exact revenge on the Turians +other aliens that were directly involved in the tragedy

7) He recruits humans for this mission who share a similar belief, becoming a messiah of sorts preaching human dominance (kinda like the KKK and white supremacy)

8) He exacts his revenge, but is then detained by the Alliance

9) The Alliance on paper punish him, but behind doors want TIM to lead a secret division which conducts illegal experiments for the goal of human dominance... Cerberus is created

Or something along those lines... I don't think, and would prefer, that nothing on the reapers or the events of ME2 or 3 are revealed here, especially the story about his eyes... so again, I would like this to be strictly an origins story, allowing us to know TIM's early history without TIM becoming less illusive.

[Kaiser Shepard]

I wonder what they will do with him, hopefully it isn't as obvious as "The Illusive Man is actually General Williams looking for revenge/justice" because I predicted/wild mass guessed that once.



Chris, any chance you can tell us if this will be released outside the States?

[kraidy1117]

kidbd15 wrote...

The article says how the illusive man came to be, so I'm guessing his origins story... but I think most of the things pertaining to the games will remain a mystery (at least, I hope they do). There might be things in the comic that will allude to ME3, but I don't think too much will be revealed.

I'm guessing the story structure will go something like this:
1) Amidst first contact war, introduced to TIM (maybe we'll get a real name from him)
2) Fighting continues, TIM is sent on some sort of mission
3) During the time of this mission something tragic happens to TIM, maybe family death and/or a serious injury caused by Turians
4) TIM has hard time coming to terms with this tragedy
5) Peace is made with the Turians, angering TIM further and thus planting the seed to TIM's desire of human dominance
6) This new desire leads to TIM to exact revenge on the Turians +other aliens that were directly involved in the tragedy
7) He recruits humans for this mission who share a similar belief, becoming a messiah of sorts preaching human dominance (kinda like the KKK and white supremacy)
8) He exacts his revenge, but is then detained by the Alliance
9) The Alliance on paper punish him, but behind doors want TIM to lead a secret division which conducts illegal experiments for the goal of human dominance... Cerberus is created
Or something along those lines... I don't think, and would prefer, that nothing on the reapers or the events of ME2 or 3 are revealed here, especially the story about his eyes... so again, I would like this to be strictly an origins story, allowing us to know TIM's early history without TIM becoming less illusive.

Cerberus was made by the Alliance and TIM took it away...

Modifié par kraidy1117, 16 juillet 2010 - 07:55 .

[implodinggoat]

I'll probably pick it up; but if you want to make a badass comic it should be starring Wrex.



I mean he's been a merc for a couple hundred years, he's got to have a few interesting stories. Like that time the Turians and the Salarians neutered his entire species.

[95Headhunter]

mrsph wrote...

Calling it now. TIM is the human that killed Saren's brother.

Damn. I was hoping I was going to get that in first. That was my exact thought on seeing the cover.

[kidbd15]

kraidy1117 wrote...

kidbd15 wrote...

The article says how the illusive man came to be, so I'm guessing his origins story... but I think most of the things pertaining to the games will remain a mystery (at least, I hope they do). There might be things in the comic that will allude to ME3, but I don't think too much will be revealed.

I'm guessing the story structure will go something like this:
1) Amidst first contact war, introduced to TIM (maybe we'll get a real name from him)
2) Fighting continues, TIM is sent on some sort of mission
3) During the time of this mission something tragic happens to TIM, maybe family death and/or a serious injury caused by Turians
4) TIM has hard time coming to terms with this tragedy
5) Peace is made with the Turians, angering TIM further and thus planting the seed to TIM's desire of human dominance
6) This new desire leads to TIM to exact revenge on the Turians +other aliens that were directly involved in the tragedy
7) He recruits humans for this mission who share a similar belief, becoming a messiah of sorts preaching human dominance (kinda like the KKK and white supremacy)
8) He exacts his revenge, but is then detained by the Alliance
9) The Alliance on paper punish him, but behind doors want TIM to lead a secret division which conducts illegal experiments for the goal of human dominance... Cerberus is created
Or something along those lines... I don't think, and would prefer, that nothing on the reapers or the events of ME2 or 3 are revealed here, especially the story about his eyes... so again, I would like this to be strictly an origins story, allowing us to know TIM's early history without TIM becoming less illusive.

Cerberus was made by the Alliance and TIM took it away...

According to what's officially written...

[DIrishB]

DaBigDragon wrote...

Very cool, will definitely be picking this up. Now the question is, will we be finding out who the Shadow Broker is before these come out?

I think its safe to assume that the Shadow Broker won't be revealed until ME3. 

After building it up for two games, it'd be pretty stupid and climactically anti-climactic to reveal who the Shadow Broker is in a spin-off comic, novel, or iPhone game, as opposed to revealing it in the final game of the trilogy.

mrsph wrote...

Calling it now. TIM is the human that killed Saren's brother.

That'd be awesome.

kidbd15 wrote...

The article says how the illusive man came to be, so I'm guessing his origins story... but I think most of the things pertaining to the games will remain a mystery (at least, I hope they do). There might be things in the comic that will allude to ME3, but I don't think too much will be revealed.

I'm guessing the story structure will go something like this:
1) Amidst first contact war, introduced to TIM (maybe we'll get a real name from him)
2) Fighting continues, TIM is sent on some sort of mission
3) During the time of this mission something tragic happens to TIM, maybe family death and/or a serious injury caused by Turians
4) TIM has hard time coming to terms with this tragedy
5) Peace is made with the Turians, angering TIM further and thus planting the seed to TIM's desire of human dominance
6) This new desire leads to TIM to exact revenge on the Turians +other aliens that were directly involved in the tragedy
7) He recruits humans for this mission who share a similar belief, becoming a messiah of sorts preaching human dominance (kinda like the KKK and white supremacy)
8) He exacts his revenge, but is then detained by the Alliance
9) The Alliance on paper punish him, but behind doors want TIM to lead a secret division which conducts illegal experiments for the goal of human dominance... Cerberus is created
Or something along those lines... I don't think, and would prefer, that nothing on the reapers or the events of ME2 or 3 are revealed here, especially the story about his eyes... so again, I would like this to be strictly an origins story, allowing us to know TIM's early history without TIM becoming less illusive.

That sounds pretty much exactly as I expect it to turn out.  Guess I won't have to buy it now...oh hell, of course I'll buy it.  I'm a Bioware fan, and love Mass Effect, so it goes without saying (even though I was incredibly disappointed by the first ME comic mini).  Hell, I bought an iPod Touch just to play ME Galaxy (though I should mention I'm glad I did, cuz my iPod is so much fun)!!

Modifié par DIrishB, 16 juillet 2010 - 08:02 .

[TMA LIVE]

(looks at cover)

Carth?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 16 juillet 2010 - 07:59 .

[DirtyVagrant]

I hope Miller has a bit more influence in the story. He did a good job expanding on the Mandalorian Wars in the KOTOR comics, it'd be nice if he did something similar with dropping details on the First Contact War.

[Mike2640]

implodinggoat wrote...

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

implodinggoat wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

It can't possibly be worse than Redemption, so that's one good thing.

Can't see that happing. Liara is not Walters character, thus he tried to make her HIS character which failed, TIM is Walters character so this will be very good and not feel OOC.

If you read the comic you get the feeling that the writer based his characterization of Liara off her presentation in ME2 which was itself a far more egregious act of butchery.

The comic itself was entertaining; but the great character Drew Karpashyn created in Liara wasn't really the protagonist.  It was still an improvement on "Liara" in ME2 though since that missed her character by an even wider mark and it wasn't even entertaining.

In contrast the short comic about Aria was a hell of at lot better since he got her character pretty spot on.

For ME3 I really hope they bring Drew Karpashyn back at least when it comes to writing Liara; because both Redemption and ME2 made it pretty obvious that none of the other writers grasped her character.

I'm actually glad Liara changed. Considering that she went through enough traumatic events throughout the first game, and Shepard's death in the second, and literally went through hell to recover Shepard's body, there's no way she'd remain a naive school-girl character. It's just as insipid as expecting a traumatized soldier to get over the loss of losing his/her best friend in battle in in two days.

So you think its logical that a woman who dedicated nearly her entire life (70-80 years) to Prothean Archeology and then made the most important Archeological discovery EVER would choose to...

A) Pursue the Shadow Broker to avenge the loss of some Drell she went on one mission with and who lied to her about the fact that he was working for Cerberus, over...

  Following up on the most important archeolgical discovery of all time by helping her lover save the entire galaxy.

I agree that Liara becoming a tad more hardened is a logical direction to take the character; but quoting her psychotic mother and threatening to flay some dude alive just because he didn't pay his bill isn't becoming hardened its becoming an entirely different character.

You don't take an established and beloved character and have them undergo an extreme character change unless your story is about that change taking place.  Having that all occur off camera just ****s with the audience and its straight up ****ty writing.

Well I always assumed that the mom-quoting, mind-flaying bit was an act she was putting on to intimidate that guy, but I see your point. The characterization of Liara in the comics was kind of off. It was like the character-altering event that they were hyping the book would reveal had already happened.

As far as the Illusive Mans' back story, shouldn't something that important to the narrative be in the main games? I could understand an origin comic on Aria or Patriarch, but TIM was a pretty important dude in the series. Something like that should be in game, not just something the devs assume you'll read. If you're going to have a character "shrowded in mystery", shouldn't that mystery be revealed in the narrative of the main game?

Or this could just mean that TIM is going to play a completely insubstantial role in ME3 and they can safely get all this out now.

[TMA LIVE]

Here's my problem. This all seems like TIM is gonna be involved in the First Contact War, yet in Ascension, he literally says he "watched the vids in amazement" as they reported the violent first contact with the Turians in the Prologue. So how is he involved in the first contact war, if he just watched it happen on TV "in amazement".

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 16 juillet 2010 - 08:40 .

[DirtyVagrant]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's my problem. This all seems like TIM is gonna be involved in the First Contact War, yet in Ascension, he literally says he "watched the vids in amazement" as they reported the violent first contact with the Turians in the Prologue. So how is he involved in the first contact war, if he just watched it happen on TV "in amazement".

He lied?

[TMA LIVE]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's my problem. This all seems like TIM is gonna be involved in the First Contact War, yet in Ascension, he literally says he "watched the vids in amazement" as they reported the violent first contact with the Turians in the Prologue. So how is he involved in the first contact war, if he just watched it happen on TV "in amazement".

He lied?

It's his thoughts in his head. I doubt he lies to himself.

Anyways, the First Contact War was 3 months long, so I guess he joined later.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 16 juillet 2010 - 08:54 .

[Sniper11709]

TMA LIVE wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's my problem. This all seems like TIM is gonna be involved in the First Contact War, yet in Ascension, he literally says he "watched the vids in amazement" as they reported the violent first contact with the Turians in the Prologue. So how is he involved in the first contact war, if he just watched it happen on TV "in amazement".

He lied?

It's his thoughts in his head. I doubt he lies to himself.

Anyways, the First Contact War was 3 months long, so I guess he joined later.

It probably just meant that he wasn't on Shanxi during the first attack.

[Sniper11709]

kidbd15 wrote...

The article says how the illusive man came to be, so I'm guessing his origins story... but I think most of the things pertaining to the games will remain a mystery (at least, I hope they do). There might be things in the comic that will allude to ME3, but I don't think too much will be revealed.

I'm guessing the story structure will go something like this:
1) Amidst first contact war, introduced to TIM (maybe we'll get a real name from him)
2) Fighting continues, TIM is sent on some sort of mission
3) During the time of this mission something tragic happens to TIM, maybe family death and/or a serious injury caused by Turians
4) TIM has hard time coming to terms with this tragedy
5) Peace is made with the Turians, angering TIM further and thus planting the seed to TIM's desire of human dominance
6) This new desire leads to TIM to exact revenge on the Turians +other aliens that were directly involved in the tragedy
7) He recruits humans for this mission who share a similar belief, becoming a messiah of sorts preaching human dominance (kinda like the KKK and white supremacy)
8) He exacts his revenge, but is then detained by the Alliance
9) The Alliance on paper punish him, but behind doors want TIM to lead a secret division which conducts illegal experiments for the goal of human dominance... Cerberus is created
Or something along those lines... I don't think, and would prefer, that nothing on the reapers or the events of ME2 or 3 are revealed here, especially the story about his eyes... so again, I would like this to be strictly an origins story, allowing us to know TIM's early history without TIM becoming less illusive.

Ok let me have a go at this.
1) Is involved in the war somehow but i don't think he was standard military.
2) Peace declared and TIM begins believing that aliens will turn on them at one point and that the Alliance won't do what is necessary to protect humanity.
3) Forms Cerberus as an organization with the purpose of guarding humanity against the alien threat when the Alliance won't.

[Wolverfrog]

Do not want. The Illusive Man is so appealing because he's the enigmatic Anti-Hero with no past.



Oh well.

[Nerevar-as]

Wolverfrog wrote...

Do not want. The Illusive Man is so appealing because he's the enigmatic Anti-Hero with no past.

Oh well.

Anti-Hero????. Anti-villain would be stretching it. Man has no conscience.

EDIT: about Ascension. If we don´t get an answer I´ll take Mr. Walters did no research. Hope for better character development than in Redemption, don´t want to fill the gap comic-game myself again.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 16 juillet 2010 - 11:38 .

[snfonseka]

He's more to the Anti Villain path than Anti Hero.

[The-Person]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's my problem. This all seems like TIM is gonna be involved in the First Contact War, yet in Ascension, he literally says he "watched the vids in amazement" as they reported the violent first contact with the Turians in the Prologue. So how is he involved in the first contact war, if he just watched it happen on TV "in amazement".

The prologue was about the soverign attack on the citidel at the end of ME1, not the first contact war.

[The BS Police]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Could that Turian be Saren's brother? It would pretty ironic if TIM was the human who killed Saren's brother therefore paving the way for Mass Effect 1.

[packardbell]

Anything expanding the back-story to ME is an absolute must.

[LJScribes]

The BS Police wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Could that Turian be Saren's brother? It would pretty ironic if TIM was the human who killed Saren's brother therefore paving the way for Mass Effect 1.

Thats what I was just thinking!  Since it takes place around the same time yeah.

Modifié par LJScribes, 17 juillet 2010 - 06:11 .

[WilliamShatner]

kraidy1117 wrote...

bobito64 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

BioWare will again be teaming up with the fine folks at Dark Horse Comics to bring you another set of Mass Effect comics. Mass Effect and Dark Horse already worked together to create the acclaimed Mass Effect Redemption series featuring the adventures of Liara T'Soni.

"Acclaimed"???!! Aclaimed by who? It was bloody awful!

kraidy1117 - The Illusive Man is not "mac Waters' character". He appears throughout Mass Effect Ascension by Drew Karpyshyn and is frankly a more convincing character in that than he is in the game.

The fact that this comic is written by Mac Waters means that I definitely won't be buying it. The same may well apply to Mass Effect 3 if he is still the lead writer. One terrible comic and a game with a central story that makes no sense whatsoevr. I have yet to see any evidence that Mac Waters is a capable writer.

Are you kidding me!? Drew's TIM sucked! He was a twiliring mustache moron in the book. Walters made TIM in ME2  much better.  Dam Drew fanboy.

Yeah, instead of a mustache-twirling moron he's a cigarette smoking moron.  Well done Mac.

[TMA LIVE]

The-Person wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's my problem. This all seems like TIM is gonna be involved in the First Contact War, yet in Ascension, he literally says he "watched the vids in amazement" as they reported the violent first contact with the Turians in the Prologue. So how is he involved in the first contact war, if he just watched it happen on TV "in amazement".

The prologue was about the soverign attack on the citidel at the end of ME1, not the first contact war.

Quote from the book:

"Once he had been just like everyone else. He had marveled with the rest of the people on Earth when the Prothean ruins were discovered on Mars. He had watched the vids in amazement when they reported on humanity's first, violent contact with an intelligent alien species. Back then he had been an average man, with an average job and an average life. He had friends and family. He even had a name. All those things were gone now. Stripped away by the necessity of his cause."