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[Duck and Cover]

and by the way I'm playing without the patch. I don't actually want the game to be easy. Perhaps I might find it easy if I had the patch. but pre-patch is defeniately not easy.

There's an encounter where an assassing type npc joins your party, but you have to fight him first. And I had almost no cc in my part at the time, that was in no way easy. I had to drop it down to easy for that. If you don't have cc and/or aoe spells you are screwed.

I may have to bite the bullet and drop my dog and pick up Morrigan again. I need that cc and aoe. Dog just isn't cutting it.

Modifié par Duck and Cover, 10 novembre 2009 - 11:20 .

[mmmu]

I had some serious headaches with Normal on some encounters my first 25 hours in the game. Especially larger packs. However as I learn more and more, develop talents to a more and more practical direction and as I gained Wynne to my party, it's gone way easier. I pumped up difficulty to Hard now, will be interesting to see how things change.



Difficulty is fine.

[giskard44]

I would point out that in this game, if everybody dies that you meet, certain quest lines close down for good. Meaning if you play it on hard and do not save those around you, you will never see what happens if they lived.



Just thought I would mention that.

[Auraad]

James E wrote...

Can't understand what everyone's going on about with the difficulty. The few areas I've got to so far that have proved controversial on the forum here have been simple.

Playing on hard. Ogre in tower wend down without a healer no problem. Redcliffe was no hassle.

Hope Bioware don't nerf the difficulty because people can't handle a challenge.

How about Nightmare then ...?

[drallcom3]

Compared to other recent RPG's this game is very difficult. By itself it's just challenging and not trivial fast-food.

Modifié par drallcom3, 10 novembre 2009 - 12:45 .

[casadechrisso]

Two things that should always be considered: 360 version is different to the PC version in terms of difficulty, at least that's what I've read in reviews, and the 1.01 patch tuned down the normal difficulty on PC, but many people didn't install it and keep playing version 1.00 due to game-stopping bug.

Maybe people should ensure they're actually talking about the same version before insulting each other.

[nimzar]

drallcom3 wrote...

Compared to other recent RPG's this game is very difficult. By itself it's just challenging and not trivial fast-food.

I'll give you that But I'm sure that many of the people who find DA:O easy or just challenging (not OMG HARD) probably found other recent games on normal far too easy. (Honestly some recent RPGs had me feeling like I could still do very well even if I were lobotomized baboon). Not saying all gamers will share those thoughts. Every individual is different.

[Lavitage]

Certain builds are so effective that they make nightmare a cakewalk, and some people were lucky enough to just happen to build their characters that way on their first run through. Some of them think that the game's easy or that they're really skilled - it never occurs to them that they just got really lucky. It's quite a testament to how powerful the best builds are that even these dipsh­its can be successful with them.

Modifié par Lavitage, 10 novembre 2009 - 01:04 .

[prmsntrcrps]

Played through the game (PC) on hard my first run with a human sword/shield warrior, nothing special about him. It was very easy once I got the hang of the controls and camera. Running on nightmare now with a mage, most orange fights I don't even have to cast a spell to win.



Yes, the harder difficulties are too easy. I'd like nightmare mobs to have at least twice their hp, bosses even more. Stuff just dies too quick to be a threat at the moment.



I'm not saying this to ****** the majority of you off, I just don't want to see DA2 or expansions be easier then this game, at least not on harder difficulties, just because the people who think it's too hard are louder on the forums. Do what you want with normal and easy but consider making nightmare alot harder please!

[JandauX]

James E wrote...

Can't understand what everyone's going on about with the difficulty. The few areas I've got to so far that have proved controversial on the forum here have been simple.

Playing on hard. Ogre in tower wend down without a healer no problem. Redcliffe was no hassle.

Hope Bioware don't nerf the difficulty because people can't handle a challenge.

Go do Orzamar and Brecilian parts of the main quest. Also, go fight some Revenants (the one in Redcliffe doesn't count). Then come back.

[Utorak]

prmsntrcrps wrote...

Played through the game (PC) on hard my first run with a human sword/shield warrior, nothing special about him. It was very easy once I got the hang of the controls and camera. Running on nightmare now with a mage, most orange fights I don't even have to cast a spell to win.

Yes, the harder difficulties are too easy. I'd like nightmare mobs to have at least twice their hp, bosses even more. Stuff just dies too quick to be a threat at the moment.

I'm not saying this to ****** the majority of you off, I just don't want to see DA2 or expansions be easier then this game, at least not on harder difficulties, just because the people who think it's too hard are louder on the forums. Do what you want with normal and easy but consider making nightmare alot harder please!

Here's one for you.
You either found out formula to make a mess out of game which makes you powergamer, or you've cheated.
I found this game very hard even on normal difficulty, and I AM playing this game (mr. with sword and shield), where other stuff (and not only strength, constitution, magic...) comes in. Well, I'm maybe noobish playa eva, but thats my way of playing the game - get into the game, ergo roleplay, where enemies arent only some mobs or critters but real threat.
Now, I'm going to put my picture on desktop background, bcoz my Eminence is awesome and you all suck.

[Silverslayer II]

DarthKaldriss wrote...

I've comleted it on Nightmare level with no armor no healing and just using my fists.......
See I too can make stuff up and post it....

Now that IS funny! I'm sure someone that plays these type RPG's will be better at this game than someone
like me that has never been a big RPG fan. I like a challenge, but I hate impossible! Have fun on whatever level you play.

[louplexlob]

prmsntrcrps wrote...

Running on nightmare now with a mage, most orange fights I don't even have to cast a spell to win.

Of course... be serious man, this is ridiculous...

[crevus]

prmsntrcrps wrote...

Running on nightmare now with a mage, most orange fights I don't even have to cast a spell to win.

I bet he killed the high dragon with just his stick...well to be serious I don't see how a mage can beat something without firing a spell since they don't have melee combat abilities and don't go for bows...

[karahasan]

Rishavs wrote...

Merkicus wrote...

I love when people try to act like they're elite.

Everyone talks about the difficulty - "nah that was easy, I beat everything on hard mode no problem, you guys just suck".

or people are just stating their opinion. but then again its hard to do that without being accused of noobness or eliticism.
i don't find the game difficult, as i excel at these kind of games. on the other hand, my skillsets don't fit in with FPS game and I am usually the frag bunny in CS or TF2.
Do understand that all people don't have same way of playing a game.  people have different game experiences depending on their profecicieny. it has nothing to do with "eliticism". but of course, you can keep on telling yourself that, if you wish.

I would have agreed with you...if the TC didn't add that one line that gives others the impression that he's merely proclaiming his eliteness (see quote below). Maybe if he gave advice instead of telling people how much they suck, even if they're actually average gamers.

Hope Bioware don't nerf the difficulty because people can't handle a challenge.

[SilentKnight111]

I went to redcliffe first after Lothring, and that battle kicked my ass for awhile. I think part of it was that I was trying to sae as many villagers as possible (something I soon gave up on) and I didn't have anyone specced for healing, just poultices.

[Inhuman one]

There is just no pleasing some people, I often wonder if they just claim its too easy and just lie about the difficulty saying that its higher than the difficulty level they actually are playing on.



Maybe they need a rediculous difficulty level where there are ten ogres instead of one at that tower, all zombies replaced by revenants, all stores disabled and permadeath for companions if they die and no ability to save the game, and autosaves being limited to about once every three hours.



I am sure no one could ever complain about that being too easy.

[Utorak]

Inhuman one wrote...

There is just no pleasing some people, I often wonder if they just claim its too easy and just lie about the difficulty saying that its higher than the difficulty level they actually are playing on.

I think its something like this...
Playing difficulty: easy
Thinking difficulty: normal
Boasting difficulty not to end up like a wuss without balls: nightmare/impossible.

That so much reminds me of one of my friends (or women talking about shopping): he'd overreact over boundaries that would end up in imaginative and
non-existing, just to be a better dudeson.

Oh, and by the way...
MY DAD IS STRONGER THAN ALL OF YOURS!
(eventhou he's old, gray, and elanless)

Modifié par Utorak, 10 novembre 2009 - 10:22 .

[hexaligned]

My first playthrough on normal was harder than my current one on Hard. Two mages with some of the OP spell combos makes the game trivial almost, I'm debating if I even want to do another run on nightmare at this point, As it is I'm just tearing through, lvl 14 and no deaths.

[SheffSteel]

Anyone discussing difficulty - unless they tell you whether they're playing on PC or console - is probably providing as much fuel for flame wars as they are providing useful information.

[Karotak]

About difficulty,yes easy and normal was easy really..normal...later in game it was sometimes challenging..but it depends on player...

Player who played BG,BG2,Planescape Torment...for him its really not so difficult..I found myself also with no problem...

Also how you build your group...if you have really AOE crowd controll, lots of dps...its then easy really...for example Cone of Cold is really cheat,not a spell..:D:D this spell really rullez...When I swap Leliana to dualwield..its a killing machine..



But we have to remember those players who are not familiar to the type of this game...Lately RPG were diablo like,which I dont take as RPG...and Diablolike games are multimass killing..so dont be surprise,that some people used for these types of games found this one difficult even on normal mode...



Next time,when they will get into their veins system,abilities..then they will find it also...



Bioware change easy and normal mode...its good...if they will not nerf hard,and nightmare it will be still good

So why complaint??You can change difficulty anytime in the game...so rise it up..))

[Miinas]

Difficulty seems okay to me. The fewer hits it takes to kill something the more realistic it seems to me. If you pause a lot, you might try not pausing at all. It's more risky that way and more fun.

[II Relics II]

This topic is useless and is bait for trolls, needs to be taken down...

[Kempeorlaxan]

Inarai wrote...

Depending on party/character spec, some of it can be pretty easy. The Ogre, for example, drops easily on Hard with a decently specced fighter, on the other hand, way harder with a poorly specced Rogue.

that ogre just begs for kiting...

I didn't even plan to do it but he ran away from my fighters, started chasing archer and mage, so I switched on my fighters to bows...


then everyone got so spread out that his hurls didn't work at all and he was chasing ranged until he died...

That was probably the easiest encounter in the game... The boss that killed himself by making stupid tactical mistakes nonstop... I don't understand how you can have trouble with that fight even on nightmare unless you go melee with every character including mage.


Doesn't matter what class you are.

[Yard Waste]

James E wrote...

Can't understand what everyone's going on about with the difficulty. The few areas I've got to so far that have proved controversial on the forum here have been simple.

Playing on hard. Ogre in tower wend down without a healer no problem. Redcliffe was no hassle.

Hope Bioware don't nerf the difficulty because people can't handle a challenge.

Yep Elite wow.

I guess you would complain if the person (M or F) you were picking up was too easy??
Dosn't matter if you had fun or not, right?