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A feature of ME2 I would like to see in DA2


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Sylvius the Mad

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Unremovable helmets.

Yes, that's right.  I like those armour sets in ME2 where the helmet stays on all the time.

Specifically, I like them because I'm not fond of ME2 facial animations (Why is Shepard sneering all the time?  And I don't think her nose should bend like that.) so the armour sets with unremovable helmets allow me to hide those animations during conversations and cutscenes, thus solving the problem.

I would like, in DA2, to have the option to keep my characters' helmets on all the time.  I won't always use the feature, but it's a nice option to have, particularly if there's some sort of significant problem that can be hidden by using it.

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They need to have a setting in the options that allows you to select "Off, On, or On outisde cutscenes/dalogue. Then everybody would be happy. Well, not everyone, but I think it'd help.

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some things from ME2 you WOULD like to see in DA2

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How about this--options?



Option to have helmets visible in cutscenes. Option to not have helmets visible at all (neither in cutscenes nor exploration).



I know it's not realistic, but if BioWare can't be arsed to make non-fugly helmets, they shouldn't have to rely on the community to make no helmet haks.

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Sylvius the Mad

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Siradix wrote...

some things from ME2 you WOULD like to see in DA2

Oops.

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I have to say, I blinked a couple times looking from the thread title to thread creator.

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What about when Shepard drinks shots while wearing his helmet?

Modifié par Karl45, 15 juillet 2010 - 11:02 .


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Karl45 wrote...

What about when Shepard drinks while wearing his helmet?


I can't hear you, I'm looking into my cup.

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soteria wrote...

I have to say, I blinked a couple times looking from the thread title to thread creator.

I know.

DAO had the ability to leave the party's helmets on during conversations, but the way it was designed that was a flag that had to be activated on every single line of dialogue.  If it wasn't there, the helmets weren't visible.

Clearly ME2 wasn't designed in this way.

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Karl45 wrote...

What about when Shepard drinks shots while wearing his helmet?

I hadn't seen one of those, yet.

That's just shoddy.

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Not in favour. I am, however, in favour of a wonderful feature of Mass Effect 1: the helmet TOGGLE!



That's right. Bioware is not only capable of creating games that lets you toggle your helmet's appearance on or off, it even did so in the past. You may proceed to find yourself in a general state of shock and awe now.



And really, isn't the toggle the ultimate solution to pretty much any desing conundrum?

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Grommash94

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A toggle would be ideal.

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I think I'm the only one who liked the helmets in Dragon Age (not those ghastly mage hats though!).

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Helena Tylena wrote...

And really, isn't the toggle the ultimate solution to pretty much any desing conundrum?


This should be nailed to several peoples foreheads!

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Helena Tylena wrote...

And really, isn't the toggle the ultimate solution to pretty much any desing conundrum?

This should be nailed to several peoples foreheads!

Toggles do dramatically increase the workload of QA testers.  This is why we rarely see them.

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Well, since ME2 (N7 armor) as well as DAO at least allowed me to simply not wear a helmet, the absense of a helmet toggle was bearable.

However, I'd simply prefer an option with "show helmet", "hide helmet" and "hide helmet in cutscene" - to each their own, and nothing to complain about.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hadn't seen one of those, yet.

That's just shoddy.


I had a couple of these moments in game .. specifically also where one of my shepards met Liara. It just seemed silly to me me that in these cases the helmet were not removed. It just would have made sense in that regards. Anyway after a few of these moments I just never used any of these armours bar the N7 armour with the "head shoot" visor.

The other grip I had with the helmet was thet, in the end it is the only visual creative imput one had in ME2. Now most of the character faces I wasn't alwasy happy about, but when I did make a face that fitted with the image of Shepard that I had in mind, I certainly didn't want that imput I had into the game being obscured by a helmet.

Which kind of was a shame as I would have liked to wear another armour then the N7 at least for some play throughs, but ultimately the "benefits" didn't outweight the "negative imput" these had into my games.

So some toggle ... or some better adjusted automatic toggles for helmet would be nice, aka remove the helmet where it would make sense (e.g. drinking) and leave it otherwise on.

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FDrage wrote...

The other grip I had with the helmet was thet, in the end it is the only visual creative imput one had in ME2.

The ability to tint the armour was actually pretty nice.  I remember how in ME the Colossus armour looked terrible on my female Shepard because that bright red just didn't suit her colouring.  I quite enjoyed being able to change the colour of Shepard's N7 armour in ME2.

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I appreciated how armour customizability worked in ME2. And you had the option of choosing the +headshot bar to wear something that didn't obscure the face and yet was still more reasonable than wearing nothing in a warzone.



I would like to clarify something, Sylvius - when you say unremovable, do you mean the DLC armor sets that did not let us remove the helmets (I hated that 'feature') or the fact the helmet would stay as you set it in conversation?



Now what the companions wore... let's not go there.

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Why not hope for better facial animations rather than putting your character into silly situations like the ones in ME2 where Shepard is throwing drinks on her helmet or kissing people through it. There *has* to be a better solution than that.



I still cannot believe that leaving a helmet toggle out of ME2 was intentional.

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In Exile wrote...

I would like to clarify something, Sylvius - when you say unremovable, do you mean the DLC armor sets that did not let us remove the helmets (I hated that 'feature') or the fact the helmet would stay as you set it in conversation?

The DLC armour sets.  Since DAO (and presumably DA2) remove helmets for conversations, and I'd like to be able to avoid that (having my helmet flash in and out of existence was a bit jarring).

That the helmet stays as you set it was actually unknown to me (I've only just begun ME2).  I also can't imagine wanting my helmet to be invisible.

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The ability to tint the armour was actually pretty nice. I remember how in ME the Colossus armour looked terrible on my female Shepard because that bright red just didn't suit her colouring. I quite enjoyed being able to change the colour of Shepard's N7 armour in ME2.


It is a good feature. I always appreciate it when game designers take the time to allow us to use different tints and skins on the armor meshes. To be honest, in both games I ranked looks above use when deciding which armor to wear--the medium Mercenary suited my female renegade perfectly. Also, the armor system in ME2 sidestepped the issue that light and medium armors frankly didn't look as good as the heavy armors.

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This was not a "feature" of Mass Effect 2. It was something they forgot to fix. when the game came out EVERYONE was complaining about the Blood Dragon helmet appearing in conversations.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Unremovable helmets.

Yes, that's right.  I like those armour sets in ME2 where the helmet stays on all the time.


NO