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Who wants to bet male romance options will be heterosexual only?


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joriandrake wrote...

seriously? the game would get a rating of 18/M just because of blood and violence? I thought only games with sex or nudity get that rating, but considering how ME1 and ME2 differ in lack of censorship, I think it is fair to say that the best people can hope for from DA2 will be some cuddling


The halo games are rated M.  The blood doesn't even have to be red.  The rating system is pretty useless in truth.

Edit: I hope there is romance in DA2.  I actually wouldn't mind just fade to black scenes, though I think I'd actually prefer cuddles.  If they're going to do sex scenes, I hope they take off the stupid underwear and just use camera angles to hide what they want hidden, and have them be at least as decent as Zevran's scenes (his they actually did right I think).

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Collider wrote...

I have to agree with a poster here that one's sexual orientation is not something to be proud over.


I'm proud of my sexual orientation, i love women!

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Naughty Bear wrote...

Collider wrote...

I have to agree with a poster here that one's sexual orientation is not something to be proud over.


I'm proud of my sexual orientation, i love women!


Proud lover of the ladies right here.

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LOL same sex only characters will definately stirr up some trouble in the rating system just like sister/brother love (Hawke's sister is kinda hot).

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freaktong wrote...

LOL same sex only characters will definately stirr up some trouble in the rating system just like sister/brother love (Hawke's sister is kinda hot).


She is not romacable.

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They really need to censor it for American audiences, and they know it

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freaktong wrote...

LOL same sex only characters will definately stirr up some trouble in the rating system just like sister/brother love (Hawke's sister is kinda hot).


Sister and brother love...

Who could possibly think of that?!

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Games4ever wrote...

They really need to censor it for American audiences, and they know it


Why?

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

freaktong wrote...

LOL same sex only characters will definately stirr up some trouble in the rating system just like sister/brother love (Hawke's sister is kinda hot).


She is not romacable.



I know

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I really wish they would not censor games that are for 17+
Let there be creative freedom somewhere.

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

They really need to censor it for American audiences, and they know it


Why?


Sorry I meant if there was nudity

Americans are so weirdo:
Simple Nudity = freak out and ask for adult rating.
Blood Gore, flying limbs, total violence = Pg13-16 rating

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I don't care about nudity, i'm mature enough to handle it. I am perfectly fine to walk around my house with my willy hanging out.

It's amazing how people can **** about simple things.

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Games4ever wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

They really need to censor it for American audiences, and they know it


Why?


Sorry I meant if there was nudity

Americans are so weirdo:
Simple Nudity = freak out and ask for adult rating.
Blood Gore, flying limbs, total violence = Pg13-16 rating

not all of us only organized stubborn old people.And their brain washed children.imo.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

freaktong wrote...

LOL same sex only characters will definately stirr up some trouble in the rating system just like sister/brother love (Hawke's sister is kinda hot).


Sister and brother love...

Who could possibly think of that?!


LOL i know its wrong but its natural for players to get the idea anyways.  Although Bethany is hawke's sister but she's not directly the player's sister so in certain context, the player may want to romance with Bethany. But as i said, its not gonna happen just like homosexual only characters because it will sure cause controversy and risk "bans" or cut editions.

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Arttis wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

They really need to censor it for American audiences, and they know it


Why?


Sorry I meant if there was nudity

Americans are so weirdo:
Simple Nudity = freak out and ask for adult rating.
Blood Gore, flying limbs, total violence = Pg13-16 rating

not all of us only organized stubborn old people.And their brain washed children.imo.


I know it's not all, and I feel sad for them Posted Image

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Supposedly i think 50% of all long lost sister/brother reunion when they are adult result in romance.I watched it on a show that talked about in depth like almost a year or two ago.Can not remember it well but thats about it.

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David Gaider wrote...

Well, how about this then: we're very aware of the desires of our fans when it comes to romances, whether they be homosexual or otherwise. Being able to include any kind of content that's really only useable by a relatively small percentage of the player base is often problematic-- it's not an issue of "want to" but rather "able to". There's also the issue of where you put the resources you have-- adding content for extra player options is great, but if they're options that many players will not use or event want to use it's not necessarily the best use of those resources. I can't really fault a decision to provide more options for a greater amount of players as opposed to less options for everyone.

There's a fallacy at work among people who come to these forums that romances, once they're included in a game, become a right-- that if we have romances they must be allocated "fairly" or it's disciminatory. But you don't have a right to romances in a game-- any more than you have a right to free worship or to be an elf. It's a difficult issue to discuss, because we don't look on it as an issue of fairness. It's content, like any other sort of content, and we'll only ever be able to include a limited amount of it so we have to make the best of it we can, and we're always going to try and be inclusive of as many of our players' desires are we can.

That said, the Mass Effect team will make its choices and we'll make ours. We'll be happy to let you know what we have in store for you-- when we're ready to even discuss followers in general, never mind romances and the distributions thereof. It's a little early to get upset about this, but I'd like to think that the Dragon Age team has displayed enough willingness in the past to include this kind of content that we'd get a pass-- at least for the moment. But maybe I'm wrong.


While this is a very interesting and honest assessment of the situation, I can't help but read between the lines and see "our new corporate masters won't allow it for "content" reasons".

And, since we already know that Hawke is not a character of our design (which is reinforced in this context by the "can't choose to be an elf" bit), I would not be surprised if s/he comes to us as straight.  Hawke is not our character, s/he's Bioware's.  We just get to use him/her as a puppet, and not change deep parts of his/her character. :(

I hope that the romances can be all-inclusive in some way, but given that nothing I've hoped for is showing so far to be a part of DA2, I'm not holding my breath.

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Arttis wrote...

Supposedly i think 50% of all long lost sister/brother reunion when they are adult result in romance.I watched it on a show that talked about in depth like almost a year or two ago.Can not remember it well but thats about it.


I don't believe that at all.  I would have to see cold, hard numbers, and the methodology used to collect those data before even considering believing that.  

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Saibh wrote...

You're bisexual. Maybe you're incapable of understanding only liking one gender, but guess what? For some people, they are incapable of being attracted to men or women. It just doesn't happen. It's hardwired in there, it's a part of their being. Just because it's not a part of yours doesn't demean or diminish what they know to be true. It's not superficial. It just plain isn't.


That´s most fascinating, I think. It is difficult for me to understand such an attitude.  I mean, whether you like / love someone or not depends on the character mainly, and partly on the look (at least for me). I find it curious that, to you, what matters is whether the other one has a penis or a vagina........:blink::blush:

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@ Games4ever: I Agree. As if witnessing naked people in real life (strippers / ****s/art models) is worse than witnessing real people getting their limbs chopped off or a real life example for me is I've seen a man riding a motorcycle and hitting a post and dying the next few seconds with his limbs crushed with a bleeding head. (I'm sorry if i'm a little bit extreme)

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Saibh wrote...

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Not really. The depiction of the naked male body was for aesthetic purposes. They wouldn't have won a single war if they fought naked.


The Celts did.


The Celts didn´t win a single warB):devil:B):devil:

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Celts got pwned by the Roman's i believe.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

Celts got pwned by the Roman's i believe.


Indeed.

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Tirigon wrote...

Saibh wrote...

poisonoustea wrote...

Not really. The depiction of the naked male body was for aesthetic purposes. They wouldn't have won a single war if they fought naked.


The Celts did.


The Celts didn´t win a single warB):devil:B):devil:


Not true.

They did capture Rome and defeated the Romans around 400 BC. Have you heard of the Battle of the Allia? <_<

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Kalcalan wrote...

Not true.

They did capture Rome and defeated the Romans around 400 BC. Have you heard of the Battle of the Allia? <_<


Admittedly, no I haven´t. I don´t know much about early Roman history.

But now that you mention it, yes, I remember that they scared the romans a lot, and revenge for earlier defeats was one of the reasons for Caesar´s war in Gallia.

Well, at least in Rome - Total War they didn´t in a single warB).  I defeated them with Romans, British, Germans and EgyptiansB)