She is related to the Howes IF she was indeed married to Conobar.
A monograph on the nature of the Old Gods
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:30
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So this can tell us that she may not be Andraste.... if the Flemeth origin is believable.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:30
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huiiii 700 years in generations are...... many many morrigans id say. she indeed is old? now the only question is: WHAT IS SHE???
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:31
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Phew... Thanks SirShrek you got us of the Desire demon and Cake topic, you are a saviour.SirShreK wrote...
I found out when the Conobar story happened: Tower age: that's about 600 years ago, in the time near the Third blight.
So Flemeth is about 700 years old!
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:32
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I didn't know that, thanks I learned something new about Dragon Age today.SirShreK wrote...
She is related to the Howes IF she was indeed married to Conobar.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:32
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perhaps the original, non-curesed flemeth actually awoken one of the old gods... which would mean it wasnt corrupted by the darkspawn and so its possible there is only 1 more blight to go through if flemeth is "possessed" by an old god....
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:35
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How would she have done that? Well she knows some powerful magic so it could be possible...Tenkari wrote...
perhaps the original, non-curesed flemeth actually awoken one of the old gods... which would mean it wasnt corrupted by the darkspawn and so its possible there is only 1 more blight to go through if flemeth is "possessed" by an old god....
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:36
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who knows? maybe she was near where it was imprisoned? we dont know for sure where they were imprisoned in the first place..... just that it was underground somewhere.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:38
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Risax wrote...
How would she have done that? Well she knows some powerful magic so it could be possible...Tenkari wrote...
perhaps the original, non-curesed flemeth actually awoken one of the old gods... which would mean it wasnt corrupted by the darkspawn and so its possible there is only 1 more blight to go through if flemeth is "possessed" by an old god....
well the ancient gods propably DID wander the fade... and btw i know no demon that allows you to become a dragon so i think that propably flemeth met the old god and worked together with him, offering body+soul for revenge. so flemeth isn't a witch, shes some kind of archon.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:44
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Well then Tenkari's point would make more sense, and yeah I agree transforming in a dragon is probably a whole new power, not part of the Shapechanger class as I first thought.iTomes wrote...
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How would she have done that? Well she knows some powerful magic so it could be possible...Tenkari wrote...
perhaps the original, non-curesed flemeth actually awoken one of the old gods... which would mean it wasnt corrupted by the darkspawn and so its possible there is only 1 more blight to go through if flemeth is "possessed" by an old god....
well the ancient gods propably DID wander the fade... and btw i know no demon that allows you to become a dragon so i think that propably flemeth met the old god and worked together with him, offering body+soul for revenge. so flemeth isn't a witch, shes some kind of archon.
Now that I think about it the Shapechanger power is probably one of the weakest magic Flemeth knows.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:46
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iTomes wrote...
Risax wrote...
How would she have done that? Well she knows some powerful magic so it could be possible...Tenkari wrote...
perhaps the original, non-curesed flemeth actually awoken one of the old gods... which would mean it wasnt corrupted by the darkspawn and so its possible there is only 1 more blight to go through if flemeth is "possessed" by an old god....
well the ancient gods propably DID wander the fade... and btw i know no demon that allows you to become a dragon so i think that propably flemeth met the old god and worked together with him, offering body+soul for revenge. so flemeth isn't a witch, shes some kind of archon.
Archon is an official title. It vanished with the TI magisters of the old.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:47
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especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:48
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Hmmm... Never noticed that, but yeah you are right.iTomes wrote...
especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:51
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lets just hope thats not just a mistake of the game.... but id bet its not^^
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:52
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No, I am pretty sure BioWare has plans, they always do.iTomes wrote...
lets just hope thats not just a mistake of the game.... but id bet its not^^
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:52
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Hmmm... Never noticed that, but yeah you are right.iTomes wrote...
especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
That is a wonderful observation. Yes it makes sense.... but we know from a very good source (Mr. Gaider) Dragons are not demons..... not spirits... They are native to the Mortal world.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 04:55
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True, but you said so youreself that the Old Gods could have walked the Fade too talk with the TI, maybe one of them conected with Flemeth and thanks to that she takes the shape of a Dragon?SirShreK wrote...
Risax wrote...
Hmmm... Never noticed that, but yeah you are right.iTomes wrote...
especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
That is a wonderful observation. Yes it makes sense.... but we know from a very good source (Mr. Gaider) Dragons are not demons..... not spirits... They are native to the Mortal world.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:01
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Risax wrote...
True, but you said so youreself that the Old Gods could have walked the Fade too talk with the TI, maybe one of them conected with Flemeth and thanks to that she takes the shape of a Dragon?SirShreK wrote...
Risax wrote...
Hmmm... Never noticed that, but yeah you are right.iTomes wrote...
especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
That is a wonderful observation. Yes it makes sense.... but we know from a very good source (Mr. Gaider) Dragons are not demons..... not spirits... They are native to the Mortal world.
Walking in the fade and being a spirit is different, right? But I am saying that DRAGONS are not spirits. old Gods may be spirits
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:03
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Yes, but those Old Gods took the form or possesed Dragons, so maybe it gave Flemeth the power to transform in one,but i'm just guessing.SirShreK wrote...
Risax wrote...
True, but you said so youreself that the Old Gods could have walked the Fade too talk with the TI, maybe one of them conected with Flemeth and thanks to that she takes the shape of a Dragon?SirShreK wrote...
Risax wrote...
Hmmm... Never noticed that, but yeah you are right.iTomes wrote...
especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
That is a wonderful observation. Yes it makes sense.... but we know from a very good source (Mr. Gaider) Dragons are not demons..... not spirits... They are native to the Mortal world.
Walking in the fade and being a spirit is different, right? But I am saying that DRAGONS are not spirits. old Gods may be spirits
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:07
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Risax wrote...
Yes, but those Old Gods took the form or possesed Dragons, so maybe it gave Flemeth the power to transform in one,but i'm just guessing.SirShreK wrote...
Risax wrote...
True, but you said so youreself that the Old Gods could have walked the Fade too talk with the TI, maybe one of them conected with Flemeth and thanks to that she takes the shape of a Dragon?SirShreK wrote...
Risax wrote...
Hmmm... Never noticed that, but yeah you are right.iTomes wrote...
especially because flemeths body remained a dragon as she died. shapeshifters become humans again at this point (morrigan). abbominations dont (uldred).
That is a wonderful observation. Yes it makes sense.... but we know from a very good source (Mr. Gaider) Dragons are not demons..... not spirits... They are native to the Mortal world.
Walking in the fade and being a spirit is different, right? But I am saying that DRAGONS are not spirits. old Gods may be spirits
could be..... I really have to think about that...
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:07
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but there still remains the question... is there one flem.... or are there many....
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:10
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Well legends speak of Flemeths many daughters, maybe some escaped (like Morrigan) and took the name to be left alone.iTomes wrote...
but there still remains the question... is there one flem.... or are there many....
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:19
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well i think when a flemeth dies the ghost whatever passes on to a daughter and goes symbiotic with here.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:40
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Could be I thought I mentioned the possebility of a daughter in Antiva right?iTomes wrote...
well i think when a flemeth dies the ghost whatever passes on to a daughter and goes symbiotic with here.
Maybe she has more of those walking arround.
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Posté 16 juillet 2010 - 05:45
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"Could be I thought I mentioned the possebility of a daughter in Antiva right?
Maybe she has more of those walking arround."
yep you did.... more then one flemeth could be a problem... but i guess the demon only can hostile one....
Maybe she has more of those walking arround."
yep you did.... more then one flemeth could be a problem... but i guess the demon only can hostile one....
