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[Seblon de Valmont]

Like a lot of players (especially the gay and a lot of female ones!) I appreciate the opportunity to have a gay romance in the game, but Zevran is such a ridiculous and unsexy choice, that I prefer to surrender.

The hole game I tried to get Alistar on my side and was disappointed the I could'nt start a romance with him as a male character.

Is it not possible to use the toolset to let Alistar become open for both sides?

Modifié par Seblon de Valmont, 10 novembre 2009 - 09:24 .

[DemonDarke]

Ditto.. Ditto.. Id want that mod, badly. I got him to 100 before I found out you couldnt do the deed with the sexy guy.



But I thought Zevran was pretty funny and such, so right now ill just have to stick with him.

[Smakit]

I imagine something like this would be very possible and, compared to some other mods, not ridiculously hard to do either. The only problems I guess would be lack of voice talent. You would either end up with new convos without any voice over, or (perhaps more jarring) some other guy's voice cropping up.



Besides that though, I imagine it is just adding in some new convos at appropriate points (certain relationship levels or what not), then using the same cutscenes they used for the other guy but replacing the model with Al's instead.



Personally, I have no desire, but I can see why some might. So, those who want it, keep hope - I am sure once people get their feet wet with this toolset, someone will throw such a mod out there for you. Or, I guess you could start tinkering with it yourself, just be ready for some time spent learning =)

[Seblon de Valmont]

I could imagine it should be very easy. Some modder has just to activate the love scenes of Alistar for female characters for male characters either. Probably it is nothing more than just that.

[RV0LVr]

Seblon de Valmont wrote...

I could imagine it should be very easy. Some modder has just to activate the love scenes of Alistar for female characters for male characters either. Probably it is nothing more than just that.

If it's just about that it might be simple but Mr.Gaider kindly informed us in a group discussion that it won't be as simple overall.I'll edit this post when I find it.

EDIT:Found it

David Gaider wrote...

From my perspective, if people were to, say, try and take either Morrigan or Alistair and mod them so they are romanceable by the same sex then I say all the power to 'em. What someone chooses to do with their game does not worry me in the slightest, and if someone likes their characters enough to go through all that work then I'll take it as a compliment.

That said, other than the aforementioned gender check switch I'm not sure it would be all that easy. For both Alistair and Morrigan there are a few plot points very specific to gender, and you'd have to do some tricky editing if you wanted to retain all the voiced dialogue and still have it make sense. For many other points I suppose you could still use their gender-appropriate lines -- and I imagine some of the romance-specific dialogues could be interchangeable if gender wasn't specifically being referenced in them. All in all, I'd guess Morrigan would be easier to change than Alistair, but it's going to be tricky either way.

I'm definitely supporting this mod though,I hope it comes out at some point.

Modifié par RV0LVr, 10 novembre 2009 - 11:11 .

[Seblon de Valmont]

I think the most important sentence of Gaider is: "For many other points I suppose you could still use their gender-appropriate lines -- and I imagine some of the romance-specific dialogues could be interchangeable if gender wasn't specifically being referenced in them."

[CausaDennis]

EDIT: After above posts, inrelevent information removed

What I am saying is, u can change it but it would mean u would be considered as a woman by the whole game and constantly be called she
or someone would have to find a way to mod the parts of the female dialogue from Alistair into the male dialogue story line. But it sounds like quite a challenge to me.

Modifié par CausaDennis, 10 novembre 2009 - 11:18 .

[RV0LVr]

If I had the skills I'd definitely give it my all to make this mod possible,Alistair is worth it.But alas I do not have said skills so I just have to give moral support to the people that are planning on making this mod possible.

[Seblon de Valmont]

RV0LVr wrote...

If I had the skills I'd definitely give it my all to make this mod possible,Alistair is worth it.But alas I do not have said skills so I just have to give moral support to the people that are planning on making this mod possible.

100% agree

[Eizneckam]

Posted this in another thread: https://e7m.org/~eiz...er_bender.dazip. Will unconditionally enable the romances for both Alistair and Morrigan.

As Mr. Gaider points out, this is not a complete solution, but even putting aside the voiceover issue, the necessary resources are not available in the current toolset database for modification, so this is pretty much it for the moment.

Modifié par Eizneckam, 10 novembre 2009 - 01:57 .

[Seblon de Valmont]

Thanks für this stuff.

Sorry, but in which folder do I have to put the data in??

Modifié par Seblon de Valmont, 10 novembre 2009 - 02:52 .

[Eizneckam]

You should be able to just double click the file, but it seems that the Steam version at least (only version I have) does not correctly create the file associations. So if not, you can run DAUpdater.exe in the bin_ship directory under your Dragon Age install directory and add it from there.

[Seblon de Valmont]

Thank for the hint!!

[Brilhros]

Bummer! I thought Alistair would be romanceable How disappointing. Either way, I'm all for a mod like this. Hope you guys manage to do it. Cheers.

[PavelNovotny]

You don't need to necessarily change the gender - you can manipulate the following flags (there are a few more threads about this topic):



Approval_SetRomanceActive (APP_FOLLOWER_ALLISTAIR, TRUE)

Approval_SetLoveEligible(APP_FOLLOWER_ALLISTAIR), TRUE)



I can't get my toolset to compile scripts without freezing, so feel free to throw these commands into a mod and put it in override.

[Seblon de Valmont]

Eizneckam wrote...

You should be able to just double click the file, but it seems that the Steam version at least (only version I have) does not correctly create the file associations. So if not, you can run DAUpdater.exe in the bin_ship directory under your Dragon Age install directory and add it from there.

The problem with this mod is that every dialog options is there right from the start that means a lot of starting events don't work any longer. You can flirt with Morrigan but she doesn't bringt you to her mother etc.

[Seblon de Valmont]

PavelNovotny wrote...

You don't need to necessarily change the gender - you can manipulate the following flags (there are a few more threads about this topic):

Approval_SetRomanceActive (APP_FOLLOWER_ALLISTAIR, TRUE)
Approval_SetLoveEligible(APP_FOLLOWER_ALLISTAIR), TRUE)

I can't get my toolset to compile scripts without freezing, so feel free to throw these commands into a mod and put it in override.

I don't know anything about the toolset. Could anybody implement the flags??

[Eizneckam]

PavelNovotny wrote...

You don't need to necessarily change the gender - you can manipulate the following flags (there are a few more threads about this topic):

Approval_SetRomanceActive (APP_FOLLOWER_ALLISTAIR, TRUE)
Approval_SetLoveEligible(APP_FOLLOWER_ALLISTAIR), TRUE)

I can't get my toolset to compile scripts without freezing, so feel free to throw these commands into a mod and put it in override.

Actually, you would think so, but it turns out you need to do a bit more than that. Here's the complete version:

                Approval_SetLoveEligible(APP_FOLLOWER_ALISTAIR);                Approval_SetFriendlyEligible(APP_FOLLOWER_ALISTAIR);                Approval_SetRomanceActive(APP_FOLLOWER_ALISTAIR, TRUE);                Approval_ChangeApproval(APP_FOLLOWER_ALISTAIR, 0);

The ChangeApproval call is important because it updates all of the related stuff like the description in your character sheet, etc. This is what the module I posted above does and it seems to work well enough.

[TheGreatXL]

Works for me.



The only time he's called my male character a girl is when I told him I noticed him flirting. There isn't as many gender specific references I thought there would be. I'm sure the audio files could be cropped and have them taken out one day.

[Seblon de Valmont]

@Eizneckam
I am sorry but your mod has corrupted my savegames.
I just tried to deinstall the mod because the scripting events didn't work any longer ( as I mentioned I can't get to Flemeth any longer because I can flirt with Morrigan but the event doesn't start that she brings me to her mother !). I deactivated the mod but that didn't help.

Modifié par Seblon de Valmont, 10 novembre 2009 - 05:14 .

[PavelNovotny]

@Eizneckam - do you have the code for your gender bender module posted anywhere? I'd like to take a look at it to learn from what you did.



Thanks!

[Eizneckam]

@PavelNovotny: I've never tried this before so I don't know if it will work, but try doing a Builder to Builder Load on this: https://e7m.org/~eiz...bender.dadbdata



@Seblon de Valmont: Sorry to hear that. I only had the opportunity to do some very minimal testing, and I am not surprised if it breaks some events (though I don't know which one you're specifically referring to in this case). Your best bet is to delete it from your Documents\\BioWare\\Dragon Age\\AddIns directory and continue from a previous save.

[Seblon de Valmont]

Yeah, that's what I try.

It's a pity that I loose three hours of playing because of the mod.

[Sparklehorse69]

He's such a dreamboat. /swoon