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[Cypher0020]

annnnnnnd don't have a clue to what I'm doing!

So.....class....uhh...yeah.... have no idea what a Cleric or Paladin is... so I rolled out this half elf fighter.....stumbled around Candlekeep.....found Imoen......got to Friendly Arm Inn......

got attacked and died.......    

So maybe I rolled the wrong class? Went on gamefaq's and found some stats for a human fighter

Str: 18
Dex: 11
Con: 18
Int- 10
Wis- 10
Cha- 18

Oh and debated being lawful or neutral good....so I picked lawful good



So yeah...anyone have first time BG memories??

[Humanoid_Taifun]

First time BG1 is difficult. To deal with the guy in Friendly Arm Inn I would advice you to exploit the fact that a spell is aborted if he can't see you any more. Enter the temple. Leave, watch him start casting another spell, go in again immediately, rinse and repeat.

Unfortunately this makes it very likely that the guards get to kill him, robbing you of the XP, but what can one do.

Another option is to give everybody ranged weapons and try to disrupt all spell casting with arrows (bolts, stones, whatever).

[Cypher0020]

Greeaaat. Plus.... there was 4 of them? Srsly, wtf? Can you buy armor/weapons for everyone? Sucks that the first fight has to be so hard......



could try the ranged weapons, I suppose....

[HoonDing]

Temporarily pick up Xzar & Montaron to deal with Tarnesh. 4 against 1 means it's over quickly.

Also, you want 18 dexterity for your fighter. I think that faq assumes your character will use the gauntlets of dexterity, but it's better to save that one for Minsc. Your fighter will want to wear the gauntlets of weapon expertise.

Modifié par virumor, 16 juillet 2010 - 10:23 .

[Cypher0020]

>.> I did.....and.... still died.... had no idea it was even coming....then blam blam blam.....

[miss_daydream]

Take a while out to read the manual. At least browse it. A little time now will probably save you a lot of confusion. If your copy of the game doesn't have the manual then you should be able to find it online. Definitely try ranged weapons; very powerful in BG1. Also, you don't have to go to the Inn first. I know the story leads you that way but at the crossroads you could head south and go to Beregost. There are shops there if you have money to spend and need items. Also xp and another companion to be had. There are fights along the way but you might find it an easier route than heading straight to the Friendly Arm.

[Ponce de Leon]

4? You mean the hobgoblins? Ranged weapons work well with them. If they reach the near grounds, go away and take some range, and rethrow the weapons. With the two of you, I guess they don't stand many chances.

Another fact : You have low dexterity which means getting hit a lot. It's usually smart for fighting class having high dexterity, so your AC goes down, but that's not a 100% important necessity (you'll see later... far later why).



And yes, you can buy weapons and armors for everyone. You have to get in the inn though. If you have already, get to the gnome inn keeper. He sells some stuffs (some are expensive though).

[Khayness]

Oh good old BG1 first time memories. Getting nearly killed by wolves at the start and getting killed by another wolf what attacked me while resting ))

I think he means mirror image by "they were 4".

[Ponce de Leon]

Oh, right, he mirror images. Didn't think about it.

If it is a spell, then no worries (actually DO worry), the images don't attack you. Just the main mage does... but he's also immune to number of hits (number of images anyway) until the images are gone... Then he casts fear, which is also bad. Then he starts going with the magic missiles. If else fails, bombard him with bows before he initializes conversations. It is quite a hard fight.

[cipher86]

Oh boy. I hope you're prepared for a pantload of reloads.

First, read the manual. Don't give a quick skim, read it. The more you understand the basics before playing the game, the better off you'll be. If you have any questions about anything detailed in the manual, come here and ask. Don't worry about memorizing all the spell effects - yet. Just get the basics (eg. low THAC0 = good, low and/or negative AC = good).

Good call on the 10 Intelligence, even as a fighter.  If you recreate, don't go below 8, because eventually you run into an enemy that damages your Intelligence instead of your HP.  Lower Intelligence = you die real fast to these guys.

I'd dump 18 Charisma in favor of 18 Dex on your fighter. The additional AC (which is actually a minus, which is good though, remember?) is awesome. Charisma doesn't do anything for ingame dialogue options, just occasionally NPCs will react to your high Charisma and say things like "Here's more money!". It isn't a necessity for dialogue options, like in NWN1/2.

Get ranged weapons. Enemies are going to wtfpwn you at the start otherwise, and even if you have ranged weapons, you're going to get wtfpwnt while you're learning. Might sound funny if you're making a fighter, but still, he's level 1. He's a pansy. A wild dog can take him down toe-to-toe.  Keep your distance.  Combat got noticeably easier on my first playthrough when my fighter hit Level 3, because that means your THAC0 (chance to hit) was better (lower), so I was landing more blows.  By then, I also had him in Full Plate (bloody expensive), which meant I wasn't getting hit nearly as much.

If you're playing a good type character, pick up Mantaron and Xzar (they're along the road where Chapter 1 starts off) until you get to the Friendly Arm Inn. There you can pick up Khalid and Jaheira (Fighter and Fighter/Druid respectively), then you can punt Mantaron and Xzar from your party. Give Jaheira a ranged weapon as well, possibly Khalid as well, but if you make Khalid go range then you should make your PC go sword and shield and hold the line.

Until you find melee weapons that are magical (eg. Long Sword +1, Dagger +2), always carry a few around.  Reason is, they break.  The Iron Shortage isn't just a story mechanic, it's a gameplay one as well.  Non-magical items will occasionally break.  Once you get a magical item, you'll be pretty happy.

Keep at least two weapon types on your fighters.  If your focus is Swords, bring some sort of Blunt weapon.  Same goes if your focus is a Blunt type.  There is an enemy type that can be damaged by Blunt weapons alone, so if you forget or just don't know to bring one, you'll get owned.

Quicksave often.  I hit it after every battle, before I rest, and whenever I feel like it's been a while.  It's the "Q" key.

Don't rely on quicksave entirely - make multiple saves.  Cycle through at least 3.

If you want my opinion on the "ideal party members" and where to find them, ask.  Otherwise, I'll leave the rest to you - take this starter advice and piece together the rest on your own.  It'll be frustrating at times, but pretty rewarding when you finally beat the *****.

Modifié par cipher86, 16 juillet 2010 - 11:29 .

[Remmirath]

The first character I ever made for Baldur's Gate was a mage with a con of 5. I didn't know how to cast spells, because I never read manuals back then. She managed to stumble around avoiding monsters for a while before being killed by gibberlings. It was pretty pathetic. So, you're certainly doing better than that. I imagine most people did.

You could always try wandering around outside the Inn a bit killing various things to get more of a feel for combat before trying Tarnesh again. You might want to wander around getting a feel for things in general, picking up some more companions and getting enough money to buy better equipment in Beregost if you're having a lot of trouble.
Stocking up on healing potions is generally a good idea if you haven't got a cleric yet.

And yeah, saving often and in different slots is always a good plan. You never know when something might go wrong.

[Cypher0020]

manual? aw crap. ther wasn't a manual when I opened up my box.... think I went through a independant seller.....



so pick a lawful good fighter? I figured it'd be easier since i have no clue what to do....



is there anyway to clear up that fog on the maps? I hate not seeing where I'm going....

[cipher86]

Cypher0020 wrote...

manual? aw crap. ther wasn't a manual when I opened up my box.... think I went through a independant seller.....

so pick a lawful good fighter? I figured it'd be easier since i have no clue what to do....

is there anyway to clear up that fog on the maps? I hate not seeing where I'm going....

Manuals don't come with the budget releases.  You'd have to find an original release or manual through a private seller if you want a physical copy.  You should have a pdf of the manual either in your install directory or somewhere on the cd.  Failing that, do a google search for "Baldur's Gate Manual", and you can download a copy.

As far as I know, your alignment has no effect on the game (unless you're a class that requires a specific alignment), but I'm assuming that since you picked Lawful Good, you want to play a "Good" oriented character.  There's a reputation system in the game.  If you're reputation gets too high, "Evil" oriented NPCs will leave your party.  If it gets too low, "Good" oriented NPCs will leave your party (one will actually fight you).  Plan accordingly.

There is a mod that clears up the fog of war, though I don't know where it's currently located.  Personally, I'd give it more time with the Fog of War effect before removing it completely, as taking it away will "ruin" a lot of the encounters in the game, but to each their own.

On the topic of mods, are you currently using any?  If so, which ones? 

Modifié par cipher86, 17 juillet 2010 - 03:42 .

[Cypher0020]

LOL.... me use mods? I wouldn't even know where to begin finding and installing mods...



I've heard of them...I never figured I was smart enough to actually try using them

[Guilebrush]

Another good resource you could check out are Dan Simpson's BG series FAQs (found at http://www.gamefaqs....n-1-boxset/faqs.) If you don't want the story related aspects of the game spoiled just refrain from reading the walkthrough segments which you have yet to encounter. He even has an AD&D Rules FAQ posted that explains the various mechanics (spell system, Armor class, Thac0 etc) which can be a very helpful and enlightening read.

Modifié par Guilebrush, 17 juillet 2010 - 04:13 .

[cipher86]

Cypher0020 wrote...

LOL.... me use mods? I wouldn't even know where to begin finding and installing mods...

I've heard of them...I never figured I was smart enough to actually try using them

Modless.  Best way to do it on at least your first playthrough, in my opinion.

[Cypher0020]

well how do you use mods anyways??

[cipher86]

Cypher0020 wrote...

well how do you use mods anyways??

Easily.  Here's the one I would suggest you use for BG1 (Tales of the Sword Coast is installed and you have the last official patch as well, right?):

http://www.sorcerers.../index_mods.php

Grab the third item under the first header, titled "Fixpack".  Download, then extract the contents to your BG1 directory, and run it.  That simple.

[Cypher0020]

Uhhh... I did install BG2 is that's what you mean

[Remmirath]

Tales of the Sword Coast is the expansion for Baldur's Gate. It'll say that on the disc, which will probably also be known as disc 3 assuming that it came with your game (I think it always does now, but I could be wrong on that).

If it says 'Tales of the Sword Coast' under 'Baldur's Gate' on your auto-run, you've got it installed.

[Cypher0020]

so how can I extract the files and put em in the folder? I have that mod in my document folder for some odd reason

[Remmirath]

It should be self-extracting so all you have to do is double-click on it and follow the instructions after that, selecting whatever folder you have Baldur's Gate installed in if it prompts you for that.

It appears to be a .rar file, so if you don't already have something like WinRAR you might need to search around and download that if you can't open the file.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

I believe you're scaring Cypher0020...
Read that manual. Read this walkthrough. Download here. Install there.

Modifié par Humanoid_Taifun, 17 juillet 2010 - 10:09 .

[aries1001]

Hi and welcome to the BG forums



First of all, you'll need to pick up Xzar and Montaron. They can be found a little north of where you meet Imoen. Second, head south to Beregost for quests that'll give some experience (points). This will help you level up a bit. Don't take too long, though, or else...



After this, you can go to the Friendly Arm Inn north of Beregost. Remember to loot every corpse you find, and to sell every pelt and every diamond etc. you'll find.



I would suggest not to use any mods at this time, since it takes a while to get use to the way this game is played. Remember to save often, the Q key is the Quick save button, and remember to hit spacebar once in a while (or all the time) while in combat. This pauses the game, so you can get a quick overview of the situation. And then when you unpause (hit spacebar again), then your characters will fight.



As for enemies, remember that Imoen is a scout/rogue/thief. Use her abilities to see if anything lies ahead, then have her fire an arrow at the enemy, then make them come to you. Use ranged weapons (bows, slings, darts) to finish enemies, including wolves, off, from a distance.



As for playing a mage, use spirit armour, magic missile, sleep,Agannar's Schorcer, and a few other spells, blur is always good to, I find, at least for low level mages.



As Tales of The Sword Coast, I think? that if you have it in your documents folder, then it is installed?



As for other mods, most mods today come with a handy installer. As for opening a file in RAR-format, you should get 7-Zip to open it with.

Just right click on the rar-file, then select open with 7-zip and then select extract to say desktop. Then open the folder it makes, and then go see if it indeed has an installer. I have tried (and failed) many times before I learned how to this...

[Cypher0020]

Wow thanks! The only computer games I played are Age of Empires, though I did have Kotor once.....



you just click Imoen to make her scout ahead right? I found out that her magic is helpful....



but what about weapons? I wanted to play a fighter...but apparently all the weapons in the game are breakable?



I heard about the iron crisis....but that makes all swords delicate?