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[Mystranna Kelteel]

Gay men have all kinds of words to themselves. Not that they're particular nice or PC words, but...



I don't know, I guess gay men just don't have that kind of figurehead like Sappho was.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Did I catch everyone? I think that's all of them for now.

Any other LGBTQQIAAPP gamers here?

Why this growing acronym? Why not just ask "Any other sexually deviant players here?"

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
Gay men have all kinds of words to themselves. Not that they're particular nice or PC words, but...
I don't know, I guess gay men just don't have that kind of figurehead like Sappho was.

Funny. I have all kinds of words for gay men too, and they're not nice or PC either. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

dragoager wrote...

If you are not a straight happily
married man or woman who ONLY does it missionary style, then you will
probably get absorbed into this thread.

Straight consensual sex in the missionary position, GO!

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 24 octobre 2009 - 07:37 .

[Maria Caliban]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Gay men have all kinds of words to themselves. Not that they're particular nice or PC words, but...

I don't know, I guess gay men just don't have that kind of figurehead like Sappho was.

Alexander the Great, Leonardo DiVinci, Marcus Aurelius, Francis Bacon, Oscar Wilde, and DH Lawrence?

Also, Sappho was married.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Alexander the Great, Leonardo DiVinci, Marcus Aurelius, Francis Bacon, Oscar Wilde, and DH Lawrence?

Also, Sappho was married.

I know these things.
My point was that, in my experience and interpretation at least, male homosexuality has appeared more common in history than lesbianism. There are quite a few "figureheads" who might have practiced male homosexuality, but that's part of why I always thought there wasn't a specifically derived name for it.
Alexander the Great was Greek, Leonardo was Italian, Bacon was English, Wilde was Irish, etc.

Looking over the past, how many men may have been gay or bisexual? It's pretty much everywhere. It appears more common. I'm not saying it is more common, but how many women can you pinpoint throughout history that might have been homosexual or bisexual? It just isn't as common a theme throughout history. I'm not saying they aren't there, but it seems less common, so that very well may be why Sappho "stood out" and contributed to linking the word to the actions and beings. And I know Sappho was not a lesbian (read: homosexual woman), but that's not really the point. She's still one of the most prominent figureheads for female homosexuality.

Now, I don't really know when the word "lesbian" was coined in terms of describing a homosexual woman, so I don't know how many lesbians or bisexual women were known throughout history that might have served as other figureheads. My reasoning here may very well be wrong, but that's how I see it.

When I look back through history and think of documented homosexuality, I think of all kinds of different famous men, but I can't name very many women. Which, again, is not to say they were not there.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 24 octobre 2009 - 08:15 .

[Maria Caliban]

I misunderstood your original point.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Yeah, I didn't explain it very well. Or at all, to be more accurate.

[Icinix]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Alexander the Great, Leonardo DiVinci, Marcus Aurelius, Francis Bacon, Oscar Wilde, and DH Lawrence?

Also, Sappho was married.

I know these things.
My point was that, in my experience and interpretation at least, male homosexuality has appeared more common in history than lesbianism. There are quite a few "figureheads" who might have practiced male homosexuality, but that's part of why I always thought there wasn't a specifically derived name for it.
Alexander the Great was Greek, Leonardo was Italian, Bacon was English, Wilde was Irish, etc.

Looking over the past, how many men may have been gay or bisexual? It's pretty much everywhere. It appears more common. I'm not saying it is more common, but how many women can you pinpoint throughout history that might have been homosexual or bisexual? It just isn't as common a theme throughout history. I'm not saying they aren't there, but it seems less common, so that very well may be why Sappho "stood out" and contributed to linking the word to the actions and beings. And I know Sappho was not a lesbian (read: homosexual woman), but that's not really the point. She's still one of the most prominent figureheads for female homosexuality.

Now, I don't really know when the word "lesbian" was coined in terms of describing a homosexual woman, so I don't know how many lesbians or bisexual women were known throughout history that might have served as other figureheads. My reasoning here may very well be wrong, but that's how I see it.

When I look back through history and think of documented homosexuality, I think of all kinds of different famous men, but I can't name very many women. Which, again, is not to say they were not there.

Going off of a rusty memory here (And I mean RUSTY), I'm pretty sure male homosexuality was encouraged a lot more over those era's then female homosexuality.  I'd be taking a punt and say percentage wise of both sexes homosexuality would be roughly on par, but it was a much more male dominated history as well. So at the risk of becoming a target, you don't have as many well known women over the past 2000 years compared to men. So the chances of having a famous homosexual woman are far less likely, but number wise I still believe there would have been the same amount, just a lot more repressed.

[Cadaveth]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I've never been called 'flamboyant' or 'effeminite' but have been part of the Boston Gay Pride parade.

Just out of curiosity, can women be effeminate? I've always thought that effeminate meant  a male who is feminine and behaves "womanly", so to say.

Well anyway, I've been in one gay parade too and most of the people there were like that. I just didn't fit in and didn't feel like it was my place so I haven't taken part of them after that one time

[Maria Caliban]

Effeminate comes from effeminare, "make a woman of." So no, a woman can’t be effeminate.

[Sol Nox]

Icinix wrote...

Going off of a rusty memory here (And I mean RUSTY), I'm pretty sure male homosexuality was encouraged a lot more over those era's then female homosexuality.  I'd be taking a punt and say percentage wise of both sexes homosexuality would be roughly on par, but it was a much more male dominated history as well. So at the risk of becoming a target, you don't have as many well known women over the past 2000 years compared to men. So the chances of having a famous homosexual woman are far less likely, but number wise I still believe there would have been the same amount, just a lot more repressed.

How has no one mentioned Xena yet?

[Ecaiki]

This thread makes me feel afraid and confused.  Hey Maria, that acronym doesn't bite... right?!

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Yummy looking lips.

(p.s Colourophobia is the intense fear of clowns )

With your other post in mind... Lucy!  I've found the man of your dreams!

[Maria Caliban]

Ecaiki wrote...

This thread makes me feel afraid and confused.

That's my reaction to sexuality in general.

Hey Maria, that acronym doesn't bite... right?!

Not that I know of.