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[Loc'n'lol]

C9316 wrote...
Excuses; if you have the choice to play as a female in DAO of course you can play as a female in DA2. So again Common Sense.

If you have the choice to play as an elf in DAO then of course you can play as an elf in DA2.

[Saibh]

C9316 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Ladybright wrote...

Well, I care. I've run into a bunch of people who didn't know that you could play a female Shepard in ME. There has already been a fair bit of confusion from some over whether or not you can play a female Hawke. Besides, it'd be nice to represented in marketing even just a tiny bit.

Basically, I think there should be acknowledgment of LadyHawke to quell confusion over gender options.

Hmm to those people who did not know you could play as a female

That's very unfair--you hardly see it mentioned outside of these forums. Honestly, I came here in fear that I would read Hawke would only be male, since left and right Hawke's referred to as only a "he", with no mention to customizable gender; yet plenty to class.

Excuses; if you have the choice to play as a female in DAO of course you can play as a female in DA2. So again Common Sense.

If that's the case, you'd assume that your character wouldn't be voiced, would be able to pick an Origin, or you know, a race or something. If they're not doing any of those things, it's fair to be afraid. Remember that most games don't play to what a girl wants.

[C9316]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

C9316 wrote...
Excuses; if you have the choice to play as a female in DAO of course you can play as a female in DA2. So again Common Sense.

If you have the choice to play as an elf in DAO then of course you can play as an elf in DA2.

They've confirmed you only play as a human.

[Tirigon]

Koffeegirl wrote...

:(I know and I get it,  I understand where the marketing is aiming for.......

I DON´T understand it. If BoWare´s marketing is targetted towards men they should show Female Hawke as really hot girl.

[Loc'n'lol]

C9316 wrote...

They've confirmed you only play as a human.

I know, that was my point, your logic falls apart  in this case.

[Loc'n'lol]

Tirigon wrote...
I DON´T understand it. If BoWare´s marketing is targetted towards men they should show Female Hawke as really hot girl.

LOL. Wouldn't that ****** off female gamers even more ? :innocent:

[twincast]

I always think of lady bugs and/or Lady Blackhawk when I read Lady Hawke on here. Or dragqueen birds of prey.



Anyway, I use the iconic face for my main Shep for a handful of reasons and especially because of Bethany I fully suspect I'll use iconic Hawke's face as well.



And due to Bethany's being a mage and her brother's bulging muscles, I'll most likely roll a warrior.



I don't really care all that much, though.



What I worry about on the other hand is that just like ME the standard male option will be a unique face, handcrafted with the same love and care as the NPC's, while the female standard face will be a mere character creator preset with a tiny layer of additional polish.



I'd love for both faces to be handcrafted, but with us able to adjust those bases without resorting to the toolset, so that we'll still look like Bethany's sibling while adding individuality and hope the DA team will be nice to us (or me, at least).

Alternatively I'd also be content with one or the other (handcrafted or costumizable), as long as both sexes (and yes, they are sexes, not genders, no matter what BioWare tries to tell you) are treated the same way this time.

[Saibh]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

Tirigon wrote...
I DON´T understand it. If BoWare´s marketing is targetted towards men they should show Female Hawke as really hot girl.

LOL. Wouldn't that ****** off female gamers even more ? :innocent:

Well, she's going to be a really hot girl anyway. The offensive thing is if all of her armor magically shrinks.

The point of DA is to play a character you control, a veritable badass in most cases. It's not, say, Tomb Raider or Bayonetta, where the point is to be a guy who stares at a latex-clad ass all day.

[C9316]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

C9316 wrote...

They've confirmed you only play as a human.

I know, that was my point, your logic falls apart  in this case.

 Why would they not allow people to play as females would they want to alienate some of their fan base?

[Vicious]

Hawke's a good lookin' guy. Playing a femHawke with the sister dynamic might be real interesting.



March is too far away.

[Saibh]

C9316 wrote...

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

C9316 wrote...

They've confirmed you only play as a human.

I know, that was my point, your logic falls apart  in this case.

 Why would they not allow people to play as females would they want to alienate some of their fan base?

The point we're making is that it's not a given, since many other things are changed and appealing to women isn't the gaming industry's top priority--yes, I would be utterly shocked if BioWare did away with playing as a female, but since you see no mention of it, yet see more trivial details all over the place, I can understand the fear.

[Riona45]

SirOccam wrote...

Yeah, that's what I thought at first too. A sort of "Mediterranean" look. I dig it.

I like it too.   What's neat is that even before I saw that picture, I was thinking of making my Hawke (a Lady Hawke) with dark brown hair and dark eyes.

[Mr.Skar]

I'm always amazed at how many people think BioWare has taken out the gender changing option. They haven't done it yet (Sonic Dark Brotherhood doesn't count. At all.) so why start know? The **** storm that would follow if they did would be frigthening, and rightfully so. That said, I would like BW to show us what Lady Hawke (diggin that nickname, good job internet) looks like sooner rather than later.

[Tirigon]

Saibh wrote...

Well, she's going to be a really hot girl anyway. The offensive thing is if all of her armor magically shrinks.

Why is that offensive? Most girls I´ve seen in my life LOVE to show skin. Even the ones where I wish they´d show less. Imo, it would add realism if default Female Hawke and most female NPCs look slu7ty.

The point of DA is to play a character you control, a veritable badass in most cases. It's not, say, Tomb Raider or Bayonetta, where the point is to be a guy who stares at a latex-clad ass all day.

Unfortunately, being a guy who stares at an ass all day is still a major part of DAO gameplay (unless you´re female, of course, in which case you´re not so much of a guy:police:) It is just one of many reasons why I dislike playing male characters.

[C9316]

Saibh wrote...

C9316 wrote...

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

C9316 wrote...

They've confirmed you only play as a human.

I know, that was my point, your logic falls apart  in this case.

 Why would they not allow people to play as females would they want to alienate some of their fan base?

The point we're making is that it's not a given, since many other things are changed and appealing to women isn't the gaming industry's top priority--yes, I would be utterly shocked if BioWare did away with playing as a female, but since you see no mention of it, yet see more trivial details all over the place, I can understand the fear.

IMO it's not fear just unwarrented Anxiety.

[Saibh]

Tirigon wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Well, she's going to be a really hot girl anyway. The offensive thing is if all of her armor magically shrinks.

Why is that offensive? Most girls I´ve seen in my life LOVE to show skin. Even the ones where I wish they´d show less. Imo, it would add realism if default Female Hawke and most female NPCs look slu7ty.

The point of DA is to play a character you control, a veritable badass in most cases. It's not, say, Tomb Raider or Bayonetta, where the point is to be a guy who stares at a latex-clad ass all day.

Unfortunately, being a guy who stares at an ass all day is still a major part of DAO gameplay (unless you´re female, of course, in which case you´re not so much of a guy:police:) It is just one of many reasons why I dislike playing male characters.

Um...because armor is supposed to be a practical form of protection, not a metal bustier? Because women are being objectified for the sake of male lust? 

How sexist to think women "LOVE" to show skin. Some women do, if they want that kind of attraction. Many do not. It does not even remotely add any type of realism. You look in a crowded room full of women of various ages, social class, race, and what not and tell me how many of them are half-naked.

Modifié par Saibh, 17 juillet 2010 - 02:44 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

A knight and his lover are cursed by a spell that keeps them apart. By day he is a man and by night he is a wolf. Whereas by day she is a hawk and a woman by night.

Ahhh brings back memories of the 80's of course some of you may not be old enough to remember the 80's

[Saibh]

Dennis Carpenter wrote...




A knight and his lover are cursed by a spell that keeps them apart. By day he is a man and by night he is a wolf. Whereas by day she is a hawk and a woman by night.

Ahhh brings back memories of the 80's of course some of you may not be old enough to remember the 80's

Ooooh yeah, I remember this from when Twilight Princess was coming out and everyone speculated that Zelda would turn into a hawk or eagle, since Link was turning into a wolf.

[Dennis Carpenter]

If only the DA2 lady hawke could look so good

[blaquewidowe]

Saibh wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Well, she's going to be a really hot girl anyway. The offensive thing is if all of her armor magically shrinks.

Why is that offensive? Most girls I´ve seen in my life LOVE to show skin. Even the ones where I wish they´d show less. Imo, it would add realism if default Female Hawke and most female NPCs look slu7ty.

The point of DA is to play a character you control, a veritable badass in most cases. It's not, say, Tomb Raider or Bayonetta, where the point is to be a guy who stares at a latex-clad ass all day.

Unfortunately, being a guy who stares at an ass all day is still a major part of DAO gameplay (unless you´re female, of course, in which case you´re not so much of a guy:police:) It is just one of many reasons why I dislike playing male characters.

Um...because armor is supposed to be a practical form of protection, not a metal bustier? Because women are being objectified for the sake of male lust? 

How sexist to think women "LOVE" to show skin. Some women do, if they want that kind of attraction. Many do not. It does not even remotely add any type of realism. You look in a crowded room full of women of various ages, social class, race, and what not and tell me how many of them are half-naked.

Ugh.. Thank you

[Riona45]

Tirigon wrote...
Why is that offensive?

I have the feeling I'm wasting my time, but...

Showing skin isn't in itself offensive.  But in the context we're talking about (the less armor, the better), it can imply that the point of a woman's body is to satisfy the male gaze.  Of course, I understand from experience that most men don't see their privilege--a woman explains why something is sexist, the man either gets defensive or brushes it off as "not a big deal" because it's not a problem he has to face.  This scenario plays at all the time (on these very boards, too).

Imo, it would add realism if default Female Hawke and most female NPCs look slu7ty.

No it wouldn't.

[Dennis Carpenter]

Saibh wrote...

Dennis Carpenter wrote...




A knight and his lover are cursed by a spell that keeps them apart. By day he is a man and by night he is a wolf. Whereas by day she is a hawk and a woman by night.

Ahhh brings back memories of the 80's of course some of you may not be old enough to remember the 80's

Ooooh yeah, I remember this from when Twilight Princess was coming out and everyone speculated that Zelda would turn into a hawk or eagle, since Link was turning into a wolf.

ooohhh wait maybe  they will have the brother and sister be cursed so that one becomes a blight woulfe and the other a dragon.............ooohhh  now thats original..........not unlike the name...:-)

[Tirigon]

Saibh wrote...

Um...because armor is supposed to be a practical form of protection, not a metal bustier? Because women are being objectified for the sake of male lust?

I never said I liked it. In fact, I almost vomit when i see mods introducing such armor in DAO and I always put my female chars in the heaviest armor available. Nevertheless, such is how it is.

How sexist to think women "LOVE" to show skin. Some women do, if they want that kind of attraction. Many do not. It does not even remotely add any type of realism. You look in a crowded room full of women of various ages, social class, race, and what not and tell me how many of them are half-naked.

It is not sexist, it´s reality, and believe me, it saddens me.
please note that I said "most", not "all", and that i added "in my experience".
To answer your question: if the room is in Germany where I live, and with the current temperatures, a vast majority of the women in the room wears hotpants or short skirts, armless tops and shows a good part of their breasts.

Maybe it´s different where you live, though.

[Soruve]

Ladybright wrote...

I hope I can create the same Mediterranean look for my FemHawke. I really like the look of the default male. Those cheekbones! And oddly enough I like the beard, too, though that's usually not my thing.

I agree. I don't normally like beards all that much on guys, but Hawke is really sporting that thing, he's pretty good looking. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

Here's hoping that our femHawkes will be at least as good looking as Bethany and maleHawke.