Tirigon wrote...
Seriously, I start getting offended now. You´re just too dumb to see reason if it hits you on the head, right?
Your point comes down to "Skimpy armor sucks, and if you don´t agree you´re sexist and dumb!" and that´s it. Everything you said is just that, only with more words around.....
For the 4th time now: I PREFER MY FEMALE CHARACTERS TO WEAR HEAVY PLATEMAIL.
Get it in your head after all, will you?
i am simply arguing against your whining and crying to see sexism where there is none. As a matter of fact many people like their characters and the NPCs to look slu7ty, and THAT`S WHY IT`S DONE. SEX SELLS! Ever heard of that? It´s the rule by which our economy works........
And fyi, I agree with your sentiment that it´s ridiculous if armor shrinks magically; I would go even further and say that armor shouldn´t change at all but instead there should be male and female versions of it.
What me annoys, though, is your godawful seriousness instead of taking it with humour. Can´t you just laugh about it, if it´s so ridiculous? No you can´t. You HAVE to accuse the devs who make such stuff and everyone who likes it of sexism..... Seriously, don´t you have better things to do than whine and cry?
Last but not least you should note that women are never shown in as inferior to men - on the contrary, these skimpy clothed warrior ladies are heroes who beat every man in just about everything. I would go as far as to say that this kind of clothing is a sign of strength and freedom for women, opposed to the Burqua women have to wear in muslim countries.
Naked Skin = Freedom. Or what do you think why the hippies made mini skirts popular?
"Modest" clothing has always been a sign of oppression, while showing skin was a way to show freedom and power.
Just for once, try looking at it like this.
And THIS is why I think it´s men who are discriminated in video games, not women.
Please be so nice and read this, and then think about it before you answer. I have not yet given up the hope you might understand after all.
And yet...no one here is seeing where you're not being sexist. So...again, you fail to see all the counterpoints I or others have raised and just charge on with you face towards the ground. Never once, not
once, have I said that wearing skimpy clothing in an every day situation is ****ty and demeaning and bad. But in a fantasy RPG setting where these women are fighting for there lives, that's where the problem comes in. But, yet again, you don't bother to read, or at least are incapable of understand, my points. I've already mentioned this fact several times.
You, on the other hand, keep flipflopping between it being badass and cool for women to wear skimpy outfits, but now you evidently "prefer" for women to wear heavy plate.
Listen to yourself. You think "naked skin = freedom"? Are you stupid? It's not "naked skin" it's the
choice to bare your skin. These women don't have a choice--and our women, when given the choice, often don't feel the need to take it to prove just how "free" they are.
It's always nice to lump jokes into a debate since it prevents other sides from being angry--but you're just being offensive. You're entire argument has been pigheaded and offensive. Several people have stepped into to point out why and somehow
it isn't enough.
"And fyi, I agree with your sentiment that it´s ridiculous if armor
shrinks magically; I would go even further and say that armor shouldn´t
change at all but instead there should be male and female versions of
it."
This has been my point the whole time. You have
directly argued against it. You just keep changing your mind, depending on which way the wind is blowing or something.
Never once have I said "
Skimpy armor sucks, and if you don´t agree you´re sexist and dumb!" I have said, repeatedly, that I accept its existence in most video games, I just think it's unrealistic and demeaning--it never makes me hate a game or stop playing it. Let me put it this way: I don't like, but I accept it. I, and many others, have brought up several points why skimpy armor is ridiculous.
However.I am not boycotting these games. I am not screaming at the developers--
certainly not BioWare's devs, as I've already pointed out their strengths and the respect they have--nor am I throwing hissy fits all over the board. This has to do with you thinking its realistic for women to wear skimpy armor on a battlefield. Not light armor. Not thin, meneuvarable, clingy leather that shows off their curves. Skimpy not there chain mail underwear is what you think is good.
Did I object to Morrigan's presence? Miranda's? Jack's? No. I understand their purpose and am absolutely a-okay with their outfits and personas. You're the one who decided to try and turn yourself into the victim. There is no victim here. It's not that tragic that video games do this. What's tragic is the way you think.
virumor wrote...
And, ironically, in the end she was burnt
for 'heresy', i.e. wearing men's clothes.
Well. She was burnt because England needed an excuse to kill a powerful war leader. At least, that was the given reason. In any case Ferelden =/= medieval Europe.
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) In a lot of instances (and sometimes when dealing with men) sexuality is as good a weapon as anything. It might not bother me in a game that the reason why my character is designed this way isn't to empower me or to improve my gaming experience but because, as you said, sex sells (mostly for men), and women are the ones who are the usual sex objects.
