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[Risax]

iTomes wrote...

maybe the gods build arlathan AND the golden city as a home for them and the elves in both worlds, the fade and the real world...

This has crossed my mind a couple of time as well.

[iTomes]

Sha Wyrd... nothing bings on me there..... what/who is he?

[Risax]

SirShreK wrote...

iTomes wrote...

maybe the gods build arlathan AND the golden city as a home for them and the elves in both worlds, the fade and the real world...

ya. There is a possibility that the Elves are the First children of the creators.... Then came men. Fade spirits could be simply a collective conscious projection of living beings...They are named after human emotions afterall....

@iTomes: Do you know about Shah Wyrd? He is a clue I think.. (to a paranoid everything is a clue). He is formed as a result of someones random thoughts apparantly!

Shah Wyrd who was that again?
The Demon in the circle? Or that spirit in Denerim? I haven't fought the one in Denerim yet but still I would like to hear your theory(s).

[Mad Method]

AlexXIV wrote...

Well some things I don't understand then. The elves worship the Creators, the humans the Maker. If the Golden City was Arlathan, then the Maker was ... an elf? Or was one of the Creators also the Maker? And why should humans worship an elf or elven god? And if the elven city would have been attacked in the real world with powerful magic, wouldn't that also have had an effect on the Arlathan in the Fade? Seeing how actions in the Fade can have consequences in the mortal world and vice versa.

The Maker is Fen'Harel tricking the humans into toppling Tevinter and rescuing the elves.

C'mon, it totally makes perfect sense.

[Risax]

Mad Method wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Well some things I don't understand then. The elves worship the Creators, the humans the Maker. If the Golden City was Arlathan, then the Maker was ... an elf? Or was one of the Creators also the Maker? And why should humans worship an elf or elven god? And if the elven city would have been attacked in the real world with powerful magic, wouldn't that also have had an effect on the Arlathan in the Fade? Seeing how actions in the Fade can have consequences in the mortal world and vice versa.

The Maker is Fen'Harel tricking the humans into toppling Tevinter and rescuing the elves.

C'mon, it totally makes perfect sense.

This is mentioned on some of SirShrek's other topics, so yeah it crossed my mind.

[iTomes]

"I only remembered him because I did that quest by chance.. Its really tough to come by... very scattered plot helpers there..."



AHHH i remember!! even made that quest without helper... was so proud of myself...wasn't he some lord or something who went on a journey and never returned??

[iTomes]

well i think the spirits already represent parts of the human being. the good spirits the good ones, the demons the bad ones.

[iTomes]

well anyhow im going to get some sleep now...good night everyone^^

[Bryy_Miller]

th8827 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Interesting theories.

The only thing I'll say is that the Silent Plains are where the climactic battle of the First Blight took place-- they've remained tainted ever since, a permanently blighted place. So if you're assuming the Silent Plains are perhaps like that because of Arlathan, you would be incorrect.

If it is permanently Blighted, then could it possibly be an entrance/exit to the Black City?

No, it is the secondary exit of The Island.

[Avaflame]

David Gaider wrote...

Interesting theories.

The only thing I'll say is that the Silent Plains are where the climactic battle of the First Blight took place-- they've remained tainted ever since, a permanently blighted place. So if you're assuming the Silent Plains are perhaps like that because of Arlathan, you would be incorrect.

To me, this does not confirm that Arlathan was not located in the Silent Plains. In fact, some could argue that this would make sense in terms of some of SirShreks theories. If Arlathan is the source of the darkspawn, and Arlathan is located underneath the Silent Plains, then perhaps that is why the climactic battle of the First Blight took place there, which resulted in the Silent Plains becoming permanently tainted.

[Anathemic]

Good speculations but I don't think Arlathan is where the Silent Plains are, when it said 'sunk' I thought off the mages sinking Arlathan into the sea north of Arthalan Forest

[Brockololly]

Nice job speculating.

I don't know how everything fits together, but it seems to me that Arlathan definitely ties into the whole Golden City/Black City tale. And there seems to be certain commonalities between the elven pantheon of gods along with the Old Gods.

One thing I might add is that I 'm thinking Flemeth ties into all of this. Flemeth is a unique abomination who is essentially immortal and can seemingly see into the future. Combine that with her dragon shapeshifting abilities and her tasking Morrigan to bear a child with the soul of an Old God. Whatever Flemeth has brewing it probably has its roots in some of the big events of the past, like the sinking of Arlathan or the tainting of the Golden City.

[Anathemic]

Maybe but the Elven pantheon has more deities than the old gods no? Atleast I assume they do.

As for Flemeth I doubt it, Flemeth's only activity has been in the Korcari Wilds far away from Arlathan Forest and Silent Plains.

[darkiddd]

Avaflame wrote...

Uhh.. Arlathan can't have been the ACTUAL centre of the world, because the world is round. Unless the Dragon Age universe is different in that respect, though I think not.

Edit: So I would have to agree with the 'centre of the world' in regards to society/culture revolving around it. Sunk into the sea is an intriguing concept.

The Silent Plains though just seem too coincidental, also. I guess we'll find out when we find out. IF we ever find out.

Arlathan was not sunk under the sea, i remember a conversation with the disciple of the elves leader in the brecilian forest, and she said that Arlathan was sunk underground deep beneath the rock... or something like that, but i remember the words underground and rock, so no sea...

[darkiddd]

I've just thought about the elven mythology and that elven wolf Fen'Harel, who tricked both the elven gods and the Forgotten Ones (enemies of the elven gods). Its story says that he managed to seal the elven gods in heaven and the forgotten ones in the earth. Well what if the forgotten ones were the old gods trapped underground and the elven gods were trapped on the black city of the fade. I also remember reading that the elves didn't remember the name of the forgotten ones but that these dark gods whispered them in dreams, like the old gods did with the tevinter imperium mages, it's possible isn't it?

[iTomes]

"I would SERIOUSLY like to know who did this whispering in elven dreams.... Did the Forgotten Ones themselves whisper Why did they not shout? Perhaps they were smokers (dragons=smoke) and got throat cancer? If Mr gaider would be kind enough to tell us..."



well whispering can be much more influencive then shouting.. "I AM AN EVIL OLD GOD!!! OBEY ME!!! WORM!!!" isn't very influencive...