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Anima03 wrote...

I feel your pain since I too play on 360 and suffered this stupidity for months. As Pacifien said the Gibbed saved editor has a "Refund all Squad Points" button, you can also directly change the level of each skill as well as unlock the bonus power as soon as you unlock them, I tend to just max all squad skills asap and not bother with the stress of leveling them.

If you need any help with the editor these thread really helped me it should have everything you need to know
http://social.biowar...3/index/2277020


I have no transfer cable for my HDD so its a moot point. Rather have a fix from Bioware to keep from having any busted saves.

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Well my game must be bugged them, because there has been times where I haven't used a certain person until they hit lvl30 and only had 28 points to work with.


is that including point 29 from Loyalty missions?

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I have no transfer cable for my HDD so its a moot point. Rather have a fix from Bioware to keep from having any busted saves.



You don't need one, if you download USBXTA (which is linked too in the thread I posted) you can transfer your saves onto any old USB stick and then just plug it into your computer and edit like that, again all instructions and everything you need (apart from a the USB stick) are on this page;

http://social.biowar...3/index/2277020

And I have edited multple saves many times and only incounted a problem due to human error never software error, the editor is easy to use and opens up many options that us xboxers don't have.

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If Mordin had 30 points available, I wouldn't have to dip into his loyalty skill. I have never been able to spec him for 4 cryo fire and class. The most I have been able to do is what I mentioned before. 4 for cryo and fire, 3 for class, and 2 for loyalty which would be 10 10 6 3 +1... GAH! holy crap you are right! Wheres my flamethrower~ Someone needs to be cleansed with holy fire!

I find myself still confused though... I could have sworn I have seen legion with only 28 points at level 30 right before his loyalty mission.

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awpdevil wrote...

If Mordin had 30 points available, I wouldn't have to dip into his loyalty skill. I have never been able to spec him for 4 cryo fire and class. The most I have been able to do is what I mentioned before. 4 for cryo and fire, 3 for class, and 2 for loyalty which would be 10 10 6 3 +1... GAH! holy crap you are right! Wheres my flamethrower~ Someone needs to be cleansed with holy fire!
I find myself still confused though... I could have sworn I have seen legion with only 28 points at level 30 right before his loyalty mission.


That would make sense... 28 points, +1 for the skill he starts with, +1 for when you unlock his bonus power = 30 skills points at the end of his loyalty mission.

EDIT: This whole thing could be fixed if all squadmates started with no points invested, their second skills unlocked  (like Miranda and Jacob) and the bonus power point given freely instead of forced into the bonus power upon its unlock. This way you could max three skills in any variation with none leftover.

Modifié par Anima03, 17 juillet 2010 - 11:10 .


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Anima03 wrote...

Sora Kitano wrote...

I have no transfer cable for my HDD so its a moot point. Rather have a fix from Bioware to keep from having any busted saves.



You don't need one, if you download USBXTA (which is linked too in the thread I posted) you can transfer your saves onto any old USB stick and then just plug it into your computer and edit like that, again all instructions and everything you need (apart from a the USB stick) are on this page;

http://social.biowar...3/index/2277020

And I have edited multple saves many times and only incounted a problem due to human error never software error, the editor is easy to use and opens up many options that us xboxers don't have.


Yet another problem because I raged on my thumbdrive because it refused to work. It'll be September before I can talk my way into getting a USB drive to use with my 360 and that will involve me ditching my old memory card.

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I don't know where you live but in here U.K you can pick a small USB stick for next to nothing, plus the USB stick uses a USB port on your Xbox not the memory card ports. You won't need to remove any memory cards it can just slot in where the controller leads go, or in the back of the console.

Modifié par Anima03, 17 juillet 2010 - 11:14 .


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I guess I never realized that was how they were reaching 30 (always was a bit slow with math).

When you put it that way though, I see where Sora is coming from now.

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Anima03 wrote...

I don't know where you live but in here U.K you can pick a small USB stick for next to nothing, plus the USB stick uses a USB port on your Xbox not the memory card ports. You won't need to remove any memory cards it can just slot in where the controller leads go, or in the back of the console.


No job means no money means no new USB drive.

See my problem.

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awpdevil wrote...

I guess I never realized that was how they were reaching 30 (always was a bit slow with math).
When you put it that way though, I see where Sora is coming from now.


Yeah. Its ****** because Jacob is the only character I dont want having 31 points so Barrier will not be a problem. Jacob could be good without barrier.

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Why is Barrier such a problem with Jacob? I've let him use it before and never noticed anything particularly wrong, apart the character himself lol

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Anima03 wrote...

Why is Barrier such a problem with Jacob? I've let him use it before and never noticed anything particularly wrong, apart the character himself lol


Go up and read my comment about Jacob and Barrier. Honestly it keeps him from being retarded and forces the use of pull for warp bombs instead of barrier and being trapped in a retarded cooldown that will come back to bite him in the ass when he dies from no crowd control.

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Ah so it's the cooldown that cripples him! Understandable I assume Grunt isn't effected in the same way since he's only activated power is Concussive shot plus his A.I tanks alot more than Jacob's giving his Fort more use.



That raises the issue with Legion's Geth shield power, I rarely use him since he is always the last squadmate I collect, does he suffer the same as Jacob once his bonus is unlocked?

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Anima03 wrote...

Ah so it's the cooldown that cripples him! Understandable I assume Grunt isn't effected in the same way since he's only activated power is Concussive shot plus his A.I tanks alot more than Jacob's giving his Fort more use.

That raises the issue with Legion's Geth shield power, I rarely use him since he is always the last squadmate I collect, does he suffer the same as Jacob once his bonus is unlocked?


Its moot with Legion since you will want GSB and Tech Drone while ignoring Hacking like a ginger stepchild, lest you have your soul stolen, never to return.

Grunt with Fort is almost invincible.

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One thing I have noticed is you are forced to put points into the "loyalty powers" which to me sucks when you hit level 30. Like for instance you can put points into Miranda's Warp and Overload but you can't max them both out because the 'System' expects you to put points into her loyalty power Slam. What I think they should do is give you the 'Option' to put points into the loyalty power not start it off at level 1 which automaticlly messes up the ability to max out both Overload and Warp because you can only max out one of the two, put the other at Level 3, and Slam gets to be at level 2 which is not by choice.



Honestly this has been an issue since day one and I doubt a patch or two will fix it. It's a programmer flaw which makes sense and doesn't make sense.



PS: I am Very thankful with the new patch that most of the bugs n glitches and the infamous no voice diolog in the Samara/Morinth fight and the return to Normandy Crash site mission error/bug/glitch has been fixed. However I am still finding bugs and glitches and I hope they will be fixed in a new patch.

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Anima03 wrote...

Ah so it's the cooldown that cripples him! Understandable I assume Grunt isn't effected in the same way since he's only activated power is Concussive shot plus his A.I tanks alot more than Jacob's giving his Fort more use.

That raises the issue with Legion's Geth shield power, I rarely use him since he is always the last squadmate I collect, does he suffer the same as Jacob once his bonus is unlocked?


I find him more reliable than Jacob to be honest. He's a good sniper and knows how to handle rooms well even though most of his opponents aren't Geth. My only issue is he goes down a tad bit quicker than Jacob because of his low health.
Also I have compared Barrier to Geth Advanced Sheild and found Geth Advanced Sheild more reliable because of quicker cooldown even though it is semi less effective but to me it gets the job done just as well as Barrier does. the upshot is the quicker cooldown so once it's barely gone, you will refresh it in no time. Barrier doesn't give you that luxery.

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NaclynE wrote...
PS: I am Very thankful with the new patch that most of the bugs n glitches and the infamous no voice diolog in the Samara/Morinth fight and the return to Normandy Crash site mission error/bug/glitch has been fixed. However I am still finding bugs and glitches and I hope they will be fixed in a new patch.

Eh what? The Samara/Morinth fight still has no sound when I do it.

Anyway, Miranda and Jacob are actually the only two squadmates where you should be able to max out their first three powers even though they get 1 point thrown into their loyalty power.

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NaclynE wrote...

Like for instance you can put points into Miranda's Warp and Overload but you can't max them both out because the 'System' expects you to put points into her loyalty power Slam. What I think they should do is give you the 'Option' to put points into the loyalty power not start it off at level 1 which automaticlly messes up the ability to max out both Overload and Warp because you can only max out one of the two, put the other at Level 3, and Slam gets to be at level 2 which is not by choice.


:blink: Eh, sure you can. There's nothing stopping you from maxing out both Overload and Warp with Miranda, unless you've turned on auto level-up. 4/4/4/1 is perfectly possible with Jacob and Miranda, just not with the other squadmates.

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Pacifien wrote...

NaclynE wrote...
PS: I am Very thankful with the new patch that most of the bugs n glitches and the infamous no voice diolog in the Samara/Morinth fight and the return to Normandy Crash site mission error/bug/glitch has been fixed. However I am still finding bugs and glitches and I hope they will be fixed in a new patch.

Eh what? The Samara/Morinth fight still has no sound when I do it.


???

Is this on the Xbox?

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Eh what? The Samara/Morinth fight still has no sound when I do it.

???

Is this on the Xbox?

I have the console version. As far as I know, the patch for the 360 and the PC were similar enough, so I didn't think the issue was resolved on the PC either. Sometimes, if I'm lucky and for unknown reasons, I'll get the sound during that fight.

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Ah, thanks. I've never had any missing sound or music during that fight(PC).

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NaclynE wrote...

One thing I have noticed is you are forced to put points into the "loyalty powers" which to me sucks when you hit level 30. Like for instance you can put points into Miranda's Warp and Overload but you can't max them both out because the 'System' expects you to put points into her loyalty power Slam. What I think they should do is give you the 'Option' to put points into the loyalty power not start it off at level 1 which automaticlly messes up the ability to max out both Overload and Warp because you can only max out one of the two, put the other at Level 3, and Slam gets to be at level 2 which is not by choice.

Honestly this has been an issue since day one and I doubt a patch or two will fix it. It's a programmer flaw which makes sense and doesn't make sense.

PS: I am Very thankful with the new patch that most of the bugs n glitches and the infamous no voice diolog in the Samara/Morinth fight and the return to Normandy Crash site mission error/bug/glitch has been fixed. However I am still finding bugs and glitches and I hope they will be fixed in a new patch.


Miranda and Jacob are the exceptions to the 29 point rule and can be set to be 4/4/4/1 unlke everyone else.

Also if you are on the console, the Morinth/Samara clash still crashes the sound unless you turn off sound effects.